Zlatan said in a recent US interview that it would be hard to join with LvG in charge.
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Has Ten Hag been sacked yet? We're not sure and we hope not, but it's looking more likely as the days pass.
Who should replace him and why is it taking so long to make a decision?
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Newsflash fella, don't think that is going to be a problem..
Thing with Zlatan is, he has a huge ego. He basically needs to win to maintain the bullish attitude that he has.
So is he hinting that he's coming or what?! It's on!
I'm not convinced that rocking up thinking, 'I'm Zlatan!' would be enough of an assurance!
If we still have Rooney...no thanks. If we sell Rooney....only yes thanks if we cannot bring in a Kane or similar.
Done deal.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...gering-600-000-week-play-England-aged-34.html
Supposedly wants £600k a week.
Supposedly wants £600k a week.
Want him almost as much as I want Mourinho.
After tax? could get Messi and Neymar for that moneyhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...gering-600-000-week-play-England-aged-34.html
Supposedly wants £600k a week.
United could afford to pay his wages a few times over if they wanted to, but that isn't the the concern some have. Some (myself included) are wondering if it makes good business sense to pay a player of his age massive wages. As sooner or later he will decline and possibly like Van Persie very sharply.
United make a shit load of money despite not being the best team right now, that won't last forever if we keep making bad deals and throwing money down the drain. Falcao, Di Maria and Valdes being 3 recent examples of mercenaries looking a pay day we wasted money on.
City's defence aren't exactly a great measuring stick to judge a player against. Their defence isn't great.
Would probably bring back some serious fear factor and is clearly still a top player. I'd have him for a year.
April fools?http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...gering-600-000-week-play-England-aged-34.html
Supposedly wants £600k a week.
The article went up on March the 31st at 22:30.
It's april fools everyday on daily mail.
Nobody worried about Zlatans reputation about being a cnut?
that's exactly what this side needs
Absolutely yes, he may slap few of our youngsters for fun in training but then they may learn how to be an arrogant type of winners.
He's not a Costa type but my personal fear will be how much Mourinho will go far in letting him provoking everyone around. Opponents won't like that for sure.
It would be nice to have player in the team with a bit more character again, spineless bunch at the moment.
Considering the number of young, inexperienced, not quite ready players we have in our squad, i'd sign him just for the experience and confidence he'd bring for them!
Plus i think he would actually be a star for us... he's not like the usual player of his age, so that argument is irrelevant. He's fit, in top form, and ready for a challenge.
Plus i think he would actually be a star for us... he's not like the usual player of his age, so that argument is irrelevant. He's fit, in top form, and ready for a challenge.
Spot on - but not just applicable to Daily Fail.We could do with a bit of Zlatan's Cantona vibe here. In fact, we could do with a lot of it, and soon.
You are trying to make it look like I said he's a bad player or something. Someone said he is a "big game player" these days, I denied that claim, that's it. I don't think he's a choker, or was, (as it was claimed) ever as well.Sure, he has lost a part of his pace but against Chelsea he has proved he is still strong to manage the EPL defenders. We are talking of player whose contract expires next summer...
He has shined against all the greatest clubs and nations.
- 62 goals in 112 games with Sweden (a weak country). 2015/16: 6 goals in 7 games with Sweden
- 51 goals in 126 games in Champions League. He scored against any clubs including Barcelona with PSG/Milan and delivered assists
- Best scorer many times of the Serie A and French Ligue 1
- Good stats with Barcelona.
- More than 25 trophies
The Brazilian Ronaldo has never won the Champions League.
For instance, let's look at his performances against Bayern Munich
Juventus 1-0 Bayern - October 2004
Bayern 0-1 Juventus- November 2004
Bayern 2-1 Juventus- Zlatan scored - October 2005
Juventus 2-1 Bayern - November 2005
Yes, I think he is overhyped these days and would be a massive flop at United, different matter. What some games 12 years ago against a Bayern Munich which was pretty weak shall prove, I don't understand. Irrelevant.
And I know his CV, great one of course, but nothing all that glamourus if you take into consideration he played for the best clubs in the respective leagues all the time, other players have archieved similiar things by doing that.
Nobody is saying United couldn't pay it, most wonder if United should.
While he is still a very good player, I think United signing him at his age sends a worrying signal after Schweinsteiger and Falcao. Like we're a highly rewarding staging post between the elite clubs and the MLS.
The career of Falcao is unfortunately finished since the 22nd January 2014: a harsh injury during a French Cup game against an amateur team (if you look at the tackle on YouTube, you will understand my point). So, everyone knew it was a big gamble and that is why, we had a £6m season-long loan move. Of course, his wages were high (£10m) so it was a pure loss of £16m. A predictable loss imho. Because, he didn't play since that injury before joining MUFC.
Regarding ADM, he was acquired £60m and then sold £44m: he didn't succeed for many reasons (injuries, tactical instability, traumatising burglary for his family and maybe the weather).
I am not a fan of the concept of mercenary that doesn't make sense in the football world today.
Regarding Ibra, massive wages for a contract whose length would be 1 year (with possible extension of 1 year) indeed but:
- no transactions costs. What is the market value of Aubamayang, Keane, Benzema or Higuain ?
- proven ability to excel in any circumstances and leagues
- an excellent scorer is always expensive
- a real leader on the pitch and the team needs experience and thus confirmed players
What I consider as a wast of money is the acquisition of average players overpaid like Schneiderlin, Fellaini or Mata (already in a large decline in his last months with Chelsea: completely ignored by Mourinho).
Agreed. However, if Ibra is able to shine against Chelsea and City, why won't he able to score against Southamption, Hull and Everton next year?
My modest opinion is to say he is still capable to score 30 goals - all competitions - next season.
With or without Ibra, imho, there is an urgent need to recruit a winger able to play on the right and ideally versatile like Griezmann.
Sorry if I misunderstood one of your previous posts
It simply depends on the availability of the greatest players.
- La Liga: Benzema and Griezmann would be excellent choices. I am sure you know other great opportunities/gambles there
- Bundesliga: Aubamayang is likely to join Real Madrid. Lewa will stay at Munchen.
- French league: Cavani & Dembélé deserve consideration. Mbappé & Lemar are interesting very young prospects.
- Calcio: Higuain is top
- EPL: Lukaku seems to have a good potential. Hard to acquire Kane. Are Mahrez & Vardy able to duplicate this season?
It is very great to rely on young promising players coming from the academy or outside.
However, I am those who think we need 1 confirmed offensive player given the disappointing performances of Rooney.
Fellaini was certainly a waste of money (thanks Moyes) and never worth what we paid. Schneiderlin is a young player with potential, too early to say that money has been wasted.
But anyway back on Ibrahimovic lets not act like United signing a 35 year old striker for massive wages isn't a risk. It is theres no guarantee any big money signing will be a success. But when you sign one in the twilight of his career the risk increases in my opinion.
He could well score against those teams, but i think people are completely underestimating how physically demanding the PL is as a league. It's harder than the French league certainly many players struggle and take time to adapt lots never do. It won't be easy for Zlatan to do so, and even if he does how long for.
Every match in england is a battle, there are very few easy games. Given his age i could easily see a scenario where his form dips mid season even if he is doing well.
He would have to be managed in his game time and personally 30 goals seems a bit optimistic to me.
Doubt you'll find a United fan who disagrees with you there mate.
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I'm sorry for my nit-picking but the myth that free agents come without transaction costs is untrue. Every player on a free demands a signing fee for him and his agent. Zlatan being Zlatan and Raiola being Raiola you can bet they'll demand plenty.
These signing fees will usally be lower than transfer fees, no doubt about it. But how much lower needs to be looked at on a case by case basis.
I'm sorry for my nit-picking but the myth that free agents come without transaction costs is untrue. Every player on a free demands a signing fee for him and his agent. Zlatan being Zlatan and Raiola being Raiola you can bet they'll demand plenty.
These signing fees will usally be lower than transfer fees, no doubt about it. But how much lower needs to be looked at on a case by case basis.
Agreed. He'll be looking for at least £20m in wages and signing on fees next season, given the fact that he's always been a mercenary, hes currently on a huge contract paid net of tax and he'll have offers from China, the Middle East and the US.
In terms of a medium term investment I'm not sure there's a more costly and risky investment in Europe.
No, daily mail is just clickbaiting. The reports say that he wants 300k after tax (318,200 in case of this particular DM article)After tax? could get Messi and Neymar for that money
What's funny that they talk about pre-tax salary with Zlatan, and yet, in the same article, they have a table of EPL highest-earners with after-tax salaries
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We'd prob have to pay Rooney £600,001 a week too as his agent is a prick and feels he has to be the top earner at the club.Hmmmm... April fools taster?
600k... He can jog on
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Ibra will reject China. Wants to go to United.
Lovely stuff.
Great if true!
We should be all over that.
I expect him and Jose have already discussed it to be honest.
What's the 75 million part about though?
His wages per year for the Chinese team apparently
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