You can't plan ahead with a team you no longer manage (after the weekend)
What a damning list of stats.
It's more defiance rather than anything else.
Exactly. Our football has been shite, and he's a bit wacky from time to time, but people are doing him a disservice if they think he genuinely believes he'll still be here in September.
I posted it a while back and then some admin removed it and I was like: what the hell?
You talk a good talk but it is doubtful this is true.
just go!You can call the current United a lot of things, but we aren't cheap. We've spent some big money ever since SAF has left so let's not start inventing things.You talk a good talk but it is doubtful this is true.
United just aren't as organised as you give them credit for, we have the Glazer's who are only interested in the bottom line, Ed who is only interested in pleasing the Glazer's, and a few people on the board who are only interested in themselves, we are not a well oiled finally run machine, we are a joke of a set up that couid quite easily keep LvG because it is the least hard the to do, ie the cheapest, and the one that causes the least trouble inside United, and to hell with the fans.
...Now I have resisted the temptation to have a rant for months over this, but the sight of that smug c**t blaming everyone and everything but himself after this season from hell has pushed me over the edge,
That's one long depressing post of depressing stats
I'm inventing nothing, we spent the money because quite rightly the Glazers were crapping themselves over top 4, and the lucrative sponsorship deals that came with it, short term pain long term gain and all that, LvG staying would be a gamble, but he could easily get us top 4 so job done, no need for Mourinho.
A horrible, horrible post... with which I agree on every word. Please, please let him be gone.
I imagine a fair percentage are fans of other clubs, a good few want Flopchettino, some Simeone and a few may have voted back when Pep or Klopp were still feasible and haven't got around to changing their vote.
Have seen a few posts on this subject and have to heartily agree that Moyes season was still markedly worse. We were truly awful in every possible way in the league, we achieved literally zero from it.
Did Lingard when some sort of prize or charity competition? Just wtf has he ever done to warrant even being in our squad next season?
Pretty much pure conjecture based on assumptions. The only genuine truths we know are that Glazers don't interfere in running of the club, Ed deals with commercial aspects and transfers. And who are these few people on the board interested in themselves? Do you mean Sir Bobby and SAF, 2 ambassadorial figures out of over a dozen directors on the board? I'm sure they have their influence but they would be influential whether or not they're on the board anyway. But all the stories about them blocking this appointment or wanting whoever as manager are as far as we know rumours. How logical is it that the Glazers would allow the running of their prized investment to be dictated by 2 retired ambassadors?You talk a good talk but it is doubtful this is true.
United just aren't as organised as you give them credit for, we have the Glazer's who are only interested in the bottom line, Ed who is only interested in pleasing the Glazer's, and a few people on the board who are only interested in themselves, we are not a well oiled finally run machine, we are a joke of a set up that couid quite easily keep LvG because it is the least hard the to do, ie the cheapest, and the one that causes the least trouble inside United, and to hell with the fans.
...Now I have resisted the temptation to have a rant for months over this, but the sight of that smug c**t blaming everyone and everything but himself after this season from hell has pushed me over the edge,
Did we really need to spend excessively on Mata and Di Maria for top 4? Our transfer spendings in the last 3 years is not a spending for top 4. That is the level of spending to win titles, i.e. what City and Chelsea did. And if Glazers are all about bottomline, then why gamble on Martial, Memphis or Shaw? They could easily go the way of Anderson and Phil Jones. If LVG could so easily get us top 4 then why are we not there this season? There seems to be a lot of contradiction in all your presumptions. I suggest you calm down and reconsider them in depth, then make your judgement again.
Good objective post
By a fluid front 3, I don't mean that the center forward should be able to start and excel in either of the wide areas. I meant that they would preferably have enough movement, ability and pace to pick up the ball the wings to provide fluidity whenever necessary.
Moyes messed up and didn't address the positions that needed attention. LVG had no other option but to step in and overhaul the current squad.LVG has underperformed but he isn't fully to blame.
I think he was just waffling and filling in dead air. But he did say he is still the manager and expects to be here next year b/c of the 3 year deal. I'm not so sure he is definitely out as many are hoping (including me).
Why? Did Moyes damage Welbeck, Rafael, Evans, Hernandez, Nani etc. so badly that he couldn't pick them up from the abyss they had reached and make them contribute for us?
Alright. So looks like we are onto the next level of delusion. Where do we begin? Should we start with how awful rvp,welbeck have been in front of goal. Or the inconsistent performances of nani. I thought it was unanimously agreed that Lvg did a good job of getting rid of the dead weight. But clearly you seem to think otherwise.
Can you not take this argument to a thread relating to Van Gaal? It's way off topic for this thread.
What delusion? RVP has scored 20 goals this season, Hernandez has scored 20+ for Leverkusen & Welbeck has done reasonably well for Arsenal in an injury blighted season. Would Nani have a had a more underwhelming season than Depay? Was Evans a worse defender than Rojo?
Ignore him lol. He's so far up his own arse I can see his nose popping out his mouth.
Oh,hindsight Where art thou?
Some of what I said is valid, some is as you said pure conjecture, but so what, I'm not going to go through it point by point for you.
We have gone through this. Evans was definitely worse than Rojo last season. RvP scored 20+ goals? In the Turkish league. Where mario Gomez is scoring for fun. Same with Nani. Welbeck will never be good enough for us.
