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Hoping he can be our second Henrik Larsson. Wasn't he a stop gap signing too? And a Swede at that? :drool:
He bloody well should be more than that. Larsson scored 3 in 13. If Ibrahimovic cannot do significantly better than that he'll be a flop.
 

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They're usually bigger when it's a free transfer though. At least that's what you always hear with these deals.
They're often factored into their wages, so when we hear that he's gonna be on £220k or whatever it is, that will likely include the singing bonus. Same thing happened with Young.
 

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I'd expect a bit more than what Larsson gave us!
Larsson did alright. I remember a great disallowed goal he scored. It's just a shame we didn't have him for longer. It's kinda shocking he played in Scotland for so long when you think about it - with all due respect to Celtic.
 

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In among all this celebrating from the majority of posters, I'd like to think about @macheda14. He had a season ticket for the last three years at Old Trafford (Moyes and LVG X2) before moving from Manchester to move to London. He'll now miss Mourinho, Zlatan and everything else for next season.
 

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In among all this celebrating from the majority of posters, I'd like to think about @macheda14. He had a season ticket for the last three years at Old Trafford (Moyes and LVG X2) before moving from Manchester to move to London. He'll now miss Mourinho, Zlatan and everything else for next season.
He's living your dream then?
 

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In among all this celebrating from the majority of posters, I'd like to think about @macheda14. He had a season ticket for the last three years at Old Trafford (Moyes and LVG X2) before moving from Manchester to move to London. He'll now miss Mourinho, Zlatan and everything else for next season.
That's terrible to hear!
 

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Zlatan did better in "a crappy league" than the likes of Giroud, Aubameyang, Hazard, Rodriguez (Real Madrid-Rodriguez), Cavani, Lacazette, Benzema. To mention a few.
When I say did better, I don't talk about "Whilshere is a better player than Barkley". Zlatan said it so well him self - He came like a king, left like a legend. His last season was his best in the PSG-shirt. I really can't see how this transfer can have any cons.
If we compare to Falcao - we allegedly paid £15.8M including wages and loan fee for him.
Zlatan came for free. If we pay him £300k for 52 weeks, it will cost us £15.6M. Then you have a sign on fee and what-not, but I do believe Zlatan will bring in more money than Falcao in shirt-sale.

We get a world-class striker for atleast one season. It's not the solution for 2020, but it will give us a boost in 2017, and I really look forward to next season now. When we brought in RvP and even Sherringham, we knew that wasn't an investment for the future. It was an investment for next season. I was one of the fools claiming RvP wans't the right signing - I thought we needed a CM, not another striker. We won the league. With Cleverly and/or Anderson playing more or less all the games. God knows where they are now, in their prime age.

Looking at yesterdays game between Poland and Portugal, I not sure if I'd want to sign back CR7. He's like the opposite of a team player. Around 38:55-39:05, he invites to a pass in a rather poor position. His teammate passes it out wide. Where even Berbatov would head for the cross in the box, CR7 takes a small jump in frustration, clearly showing he was unhappy with his team mate. Way the go boosting the teams morale..
 

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Getting a few sponsor deals with the Zlatan hype to cover the wage should be easy. Zlatan brand is still very much popular out there.
Somehow i don't imagine its that easy mate.

I could be wrong but just because we have signed Ibrahimovic the phones are not going to be all of a sudden ringing off the hook with a company or companies offering us the equivalent of £13m per year that they wouldn't have otherwise.

Could it open the door to deals with a few companies that we wouldn't have partnered with otherwise yes it's possible. Could it lead to a stronger negotiating position with a few companies we were already due to tie up deals with, again yes its possible.

But honestly i highly doubt we will go out in the next few months and get 1, 2 or 5 new deals that will cover his wages. I don't care if we do either as long as he is performing on the pitch.
 

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I was one of the fools claiming RvP wans't the right signing - I thought we needed a CM, not another striker.
You were right back then. He wasn't the right signing. Fergie could and should have strengthened other areas instead, especially central midfield.

We could have won the league without him, considering how shite City were that year.
 

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Somehow i don't imagine its that easy mate.

I could be wrong but just because we have signed Ibrahimovic the phones are not going to be all of a sudden ringing off the hook with a company or companies offering us the equivalent of £13m per year that they wouldn't have otherwise.

Could it open the door to deals with a few companies that we wouldn't have partnered with otherwise yes it's possible. Could it lead to a stronger negotiating position with a few companies we were already due to tie up deals with, again yes its possible.

But honestly i highly doubt we will go out in the next few months and get 1, 2 or 5 new deals that will cover his wages. I don't care if we do either as long as he is performing on the pitch.
A poster said yesterday we practically have entire Sweden as fans now since we signed Zlatan. They don't support Sweden, they support Zlatan. He still has a tremendous pull in terms of marketing. Selling his jerseys won't be a problem.
 

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You were right back then. He wasn't the right signing. Fergie could and should have strengthened other areas instead, especially central midfield.

We could have won the league without him, considering how shite City were that year.
That's a bold prediction. We needed to outscore every single opponent that year and RVP and was integral to that with his 30 goals. Signing him gave us a huge lift as well because we signed one of the league's best players. And he chose us over City.
 

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You were right back then. He wasn't the right signing. Fergie could and should have strengthened other areas instead, especially central midfield.

We could have won the league without him, considering how shite City were that year.
Who would have scored the goals that year?

Rooney was on the way down. So not sure how we would have won the league. RVP won us many games on his own.
 

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A poster said yesterday we practically have entire Sweden as fans now since we signed Zlatan. They don't support Sweden, they support Zlatan. He still has a tremendous pull in terms of marketing. Selling his jerseys won't be a problem.
Yeah i imagine our exposure in Sweden will increase, great.

To be honest i don't want to get into a debate about shirt sales as i'm pretty sure a few people have already explained quite well that singing players has very little effect on shirt sales. Most people who buy an Ibrahimovic shirt were buying one anyway.

Unless we start charging £15 per letter for printing or something haha.
 

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That's a bold prediction. We needed to outscore every single opponent that year and RVP and was integral to that with his 30 goals. Signing him gave us a huge lift as well because we signed one of the league's best players. And he chose us over City.
We would have had a better team had Fergie not been mortally afraid of signing central midfielders. He indulged his love of classy strikers for his one final season but it was to the detriment of the squad and the mid-term future.
 

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Who would have scored the goals that year?

Rooney was on the way down.
So not sure how we would have won the league. RVP won us many games on his own.
Rooney had just scored 36 goals the season before we signed Van Persie. Had we played him up top all season as was the plan according to Ferguson before Van Persie became available. I imagine he would have had no problem scoring 25-30 goals that year also.
 

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Who would have scored the goals that year?

Rooney was on the way down. So not sure how we would have won the league. RVP won us many games on his own.
Woah, that's a bold thing to say in the Zlatan thread of all places (where Ibrahimovic's previous season is often used as a justification for his signing). He scored 27 goals in the Premier League in 2011/12. His decline was at least partly down to the RVP signing which changed and upset the balance of the side.
 

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Guess he'll be arriving in a spaceship or something. Zlatan allegedly declined Arsenal before going to Ajax. Because "Zlatan doesn't do trials".
 

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Guess he'll be arriving in a spaceship or something. Zlatan allegedly declined Arsenal before going to Ajax. Because "Zlatan doesn't do trials".
That's ridiculous. You can't invite a God for your petty trials. And this inevitably will have Wenger saying "We tried to sign him when he was a kid" when Zlatan is doing well for us.
 

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Some of the posters in this thread are thinking extremely short term. The fact that Adidas receives the monetary gain from our shirt sales doesn’t mean we won’t benefit from it too. These two factors are not mutually exclusive at all.

Big name signings like Zlatan will allow us to sit in the driving seat next time we’re negotiating with Nike/Adidas or our new shirt sponsor.

Some may argue that we just signed new shirt deals, but my counter argument to that is that exceptional sales would give us the opportunity to renew the shirt deal early. Chelsea proved that this is a realistic possibility with their early renewal.

A reinvigorated Manchester United with a World Class manager signing Big-name players like Zlatan is a sponsors dream. Adidas may earn the money from the shirt sales, but we will benefit in the long term when we are sitting at the negotiating table with them (and other sponsors) providing evidence of our commercial value and why we deserve a record breaking new sponsorship.
 
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As long as the rumored 1 year contract (with the club having the option to extend for another year) is true, I'm happy. Can't wait to see what he can bring to the club on and off the pitch. The first press conference with Jose + Zlatan will be epic. :drool:
 

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Some of the posters in this thread are thinking extremely short term. The fact that Adidas receives the monetary gain from our shirt sales doesn’t mean we won’t benefit from it too. These two factors are not mutually exclusive at all.

Big name signings like Zlatan will allow us to sit in the driving seat next time we’re negotiating with Nike/Adidas or our new shirt sponsor.

Some may argue that we just signed new shirt deals, but my counter argument to that is that exceptional sales would give us the opportunity to renew the shirt deal early. Chelsea proved that this is a realistic possibility with their early renewal.

A reinvigorated Manchester United with a World Class manager signing Big-name players like Zlatan is a sponsors dream. Adidas may earn the money from the shirt sales, but we will benefit in the long term when we are sitting at the negotiating table with them (and other sponsors) providing evidence of our commercial value and why we deserve a record breaking new sponsorship.
Zlatan will hardly move the needle when it comes to shirt sales though. That's what we're saying. Adidas sign with Manchester United because of the global brand. That won't change much with Ibrahimovic coming here.
 

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Unless Neymar, Messi, Bale or Ronaldo have a shock transfer to PL, Zlatan will be the biggest signing this window. And we got him for free.
 

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Zlatan will hardly move the needle when it comes to shirt sales though. That's what we're saying. Adidas sign with Manchester United because of the global brand. That won't change much with Ibrahimovic coming here.
While I kinda disagree with as-95, I don't think you can prove it won't change with Zlatan here. He's a seriously liked character, and *arguably) the first world class player we've bought in years.
I'm not saying he will improve our shirt sales massively, but saying he won't is a bit pre-mature.
 
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