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Current form our best player?
I think so.
I think so.
And that shows how far we have fallen when fellaini has become our best player. Sorry I don't want our club becoming a glorified westbrom where hoofing the ball to him is our best tactics and thus fellaini becoming our most important player.
Let's sell all our players except De Gea.
People need to get off his back. He's been good and reliable for us in the majority of games he's played under Jose. And he fights for the cause unlike some of the others.
The harsh critics of Fellaini are looking more and more ridiculous. Its not that you can't critisize him as he obviously has his weaknesses but to moan about him after one of his good games is ridiculous.
I have a feeling he is going to be an extremely important player for us this season!
I have a feeling he is going to be an extremely important player for us this season!
Why is that reason to give Fellaini shit? He's playing very well, doing what he can and following orders. Fellaini is important because he gives his all, and works his arse off despite his limitations(and he's far better than most give credit for, because of his gangly frame and afro).
If anything, it's a damn harsh refection on all these players who are apparently worlds better than the big Fella, but keep on doing dick all and leave Mourinho to resort to sending on Fellaini as a targetman or whatever, to chase games.
His existence does not make us play Long ball. It allows us to have the option of playing Long ball as an alternative.
There is a difference, a subtle one that is easily overshadowed by irrational hate.
This also epitomises the spoiled and ungrateful nature of the fans. Let's all hate a player who gives his best for the team, and fights on despite massive wave of Fan negativity. He is obviously not a world class game changer like we hope Pogba will be but still he at least does what the manager wants and seems to do it well enough for the manager to come out and defend his importance to the team.
And also accepting mediocrity? I think most rational and sensible people just understand it takes time to climb back to the top. Nobody is accepting mediocrity but that doesn't mean we have to act like blind, irrational, stubborn negative, hateful idiots.
Has Fergie never ever once resorted to Long ball tactics? Seems some history is being rewritten here. I recall many games especially when we were chasing goals, Fergie's teams would be sending bodies up front (even Bidic and O'Shea) and we just starting pumping Long balls and crosses into the box.
And it is a stupid argument to say applauding Fellaini equates to accepting mediocrity. Fellaini is applauded for the effort and resilience and the niche tactical aspect he brings to the team. No one is cheering Fellaini because we think he is close to Pogba's level. If our players all had that level of fight as Fellaini does, I am pretty sure we will do better. Fergie's teams were good mix of world class game changers balanced with grafters and players who fulfilled a role. But Fergie was never about World Class players in every spot, but it was about putting up a fight.
Is that one of his testicles below his left eye?
Looks like the love child of Sly Stallone and that sloth from the Goonies.
Ah but players like Pogba, Martial and Mhikitaryan have better stats on FM, can do some eye-catching silky dribbles so that absolves them from having poor standards. When they play bad, it's just Mourinho's fault.
Yep he shoved Rio, Vida, Smalling, Bruce and many other defenders upfront at various times during his time at United.
Heck I don't even like Fellaini that much as a player but I find myself defending against the really irrational, skewed, biased and almost bigoted opinions about the player.
That was my recollection too. But fans like to believe that Fergie was some sort of Football purist like Guardiola, when Fergie was immensely practical with his team's. When things are not working he changes but he always expect his players to put up a fight. I see some of these in Mourinho.
There is really two types of people when it comes to Fellaini. There are people who judge him by his performances and there are people who judge him for the type of player he is.
For the latter group, Fellaini's performances are irrelevant, unfortunately. He will always be shit.
I think he's been one of our most consistent players and apart from two instances last season (Everton and Man City), he's always come in and done what is required.
For the latter group, Fellaini's performances are irrelevant, unfortunately. He will always be shit.
I think he's been one of our most consistent players and apart from two instances last season (Everton and Man City), he's always come in and done what is required.
There is no shame setting up the team to beat Real by counter attacking and launching balls to bypass their vastly superior midfield. That is the point of tactics and that is how you win games. Madrid hate long balls to the front. We don't need to out pass such teams and play to their strengths. That tactic of out-passing can be used and is used when we play less tactically astute and less skilled teams in the league, in which there are plenty.
Yet another top quality performance off the bench, great work in the leadup to Lukaku's goal winning the ball back in the box. Not really surprised that he's managed to raise himself up to the standard of newer and better players as they have been brought in and if he can continue to lift another gear this season to push Matic/Herrera and Pogba along then he will be an extremely useful player in that aspect alone as a rotational/squad player and maybe even push into the first team organically which will be great for him as an individual (the flow on will effect the squad which is only positive). What an mental titan, immensely gritty.
It's normal to like or hate a player and myself don't like Fellaini much but it's fair to give him credit when he deserved. The problem with some in this thread they find it really hard to applaud Fellaini for anything. When he's terrible he's slaughtered and when he's good then it's shame we needed to resort to this extinct and we're accepting mediocrity. Some here want Fellaini to get slaughtered all the time never mind what he does on the pitch.
No brainier Fellaini was the one who revived us into the game and he was the only reason we could fight to some extent to bring back the result after Herrera and Pogba terribly lost the battle of the midfield to Kroos and Modric. He was a great tactical solution and he did his job. He deserved the credit. Simple as that.
No brainier Fellaini was the one who revived us into the game and he was the only reason we could fight to some extent to bring back the result after Herrera and Pogba terribly lost the battle of the midfield to Kroos and Modric. He was a great tactical solution and he did his job. He deserved the credit. Simple as that.
Get a grip!
People keep hating on him and he keeps putting in a shift every time. No wonder Van Gaal and Mourinho both can't get enough of his spirit. Kudos to the big man. A great option to have. Rattles the oposition by mere presence. Chuffed for the lad.
No it wasn't about fight mate. It was about playinng with skill and imagination. 'fight' is a prerequisite, not a tactic in itself. All that '110%' nonsense is why the England national team haven't won a major trophy in 50 years.
And yes Fergie did play long ball to his centre backs occasionally, but only for the last 5-10 minutes, not half an hour!
Agree. And I also love his razor sharp elbows, especially when he buries them in some cnut defenders face who tries to bully us.
He shouldn't be in the starting XI but as you say, a great option to have, particulary with his immense heading ability and chest control.
What I like about him is that due to his size and build, when he is in form he's very hard to handle for the opposing teams. It's also what largely prevents him from playing the kind of football people would like us to constantly play but it has to be this way.
You are right that 'fight' is a prerequisite, but it doesn't seem like the majority of our players have it. In my example about Fergie, my point was that Fergie had well-balanced squads. Not everyone was a worldie or players that were creative and imaginative. Similarly we don't have a squad full of tier 1 stars, and we don't need to.
5min or half hour the same point stands. Fergie did it because it was an alternative tactic and so does Mourinho. I also remember one criticism of Fergie was that he left changes till too late or for LVG that he didn't change at all.
Big game player. I like the lad. For all the shit he gets on here he really puts in a shift whenever he plays for us.
He'll get more than enough minutes in the PL and CL. And the best part is he doesn't moan or groan when he's not in the starting eleven. Comes in when called upon and gives his 100%. Works some times, some times it doesn't. Has mostly worked well under Mourinho. Mourinho knows his importance and publicly stating it in the media will only give Fellaini a confidence boost.
Our team was never going to transform swiftly from ageing players inherited by Moyes into Barca/Real quality. It will take time. And it will be bumpy. And Fellaini is a good stop-gap to have along on this bumpy transition.
Said it for a long time but it continues to be true...He is an important part of the team and causes a lot problems for the opposition.
The people implying that Fellaini being in the squad indicates accepting mediocrity are just silly. I'm very happy things are going well for him...gives everything for the team
The people implying that Fellaini being in the squad indicates accepting mediocrity are just silly. I'm very happy things are going well for him...gives everything for the team
You mean in general? I dont agree then. He had too many really poor games for us. Now he had some good games, fair enough and he deserves his place in the squad. But that does not make him a better player
He's not an important part of the team. Else he would be a first teamer. He's got he's use as a squad player but only if we play him right (ie no 10) and if we change our game for him. When was the last time we managed to win anything with long ball football?
We should have a look what the current masters in the game are doing and learn from it. When Real were struggling they put in Ronaldo and Assensio in which added quality and flair to the side. They didn't attempt to bypass the midfield by kicking the ball towards the big lump's head. That is how you win CLs.
All this.
You look at the quality of players coming right off the production line at Madrid's Academy and they are sorted for a good ten years. That's if they stand still and do nothing. Utd's recruitment and youth development is simply not producing to the same standard. Fellaini is an awkward type of player and he is not the one who fits the mold of a classic Utd player but the flip side is he gives it 100% does his job to the bosses instructions.
I don't buy into it that every ball is a long ball when Fellaini is involved. He is often mocked for the neat little balls that keep possession when we are under pressure. It is apparently unexpected from such a big man with no skill.
One of our better players last night. Continues to get a bad crack of the whip with United fans.
Say what you want but he's effective at what he does and caused problems last night.
Say what you want but he's effective at what he does and caused problems last night.
Unless something changes later this month, Fellaini will be a United player this season. So let's please talk about his performances instead of "should he be here or not?". We had that discussion many times before, and the manager made his call.
People always talk about "just hoofing the ball to Fellaini", when he comes in. They don`t seem to see that he brings strength and fighting spirit in our midfield - yesterday came in we looked much better, he won the ball in several occasions and was harassing their midfield players till the end. That is why he comes in, his aerial abilities are just a plus.
I don't think anybody is denying that he brings strenght und fighting spirit to the team, but we have to measure when he puts in a good performance and why. For me the reason why he looked good yesterday was, because Real forced us with good pressing to play long balls forward. Lukaku lost nearly every aerial duel against Ramos (what a beast btw) and he gave us another outlet to go long. We aren't a better team with him in the side, at least not, if we are trying to play fluent and technical football.
The acceptance of mediocrity given our standing as the 'biggest club in the world' is astounding. The acceptance of uninspiring drab football with the option of don't worry big Marouane will come on to save the game sums up our recent history.
Funny how we don't see "epitome of mediocrity" and all such bollocks on other threads. He came on yesterday after most of the fan favourites were shit, changed the game completely and we actually looked like scoring once he came on. After all, the usual suspects (and some new comers) are here vomiting their usual rubbish against Fellaini. There are a lot of things we can have a go at in the post Fergie era, however Fellaini is not one of them. On the contrary, he's been key in the few successes we've actually had.
Again comparing fella to pogba, Herrera, martial,matic, lukaku , mkhi is a joke . They all are far better footballers.
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