The only decent moment of the liverpool game was from him.
Martial is easily our most exciting player regardless, but I guess I want too much.
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The only decent moment of the liverpool game was from him.
Martial is easily our most exciting player regardless, but I guess I want too much.
I think we need to be realistic here.
Look at De Bruyne. Silva. Ericsson. Sanchez. Couthino. Look at Hazard tonight. Gabriel Jesus. These are powerful, effective attacking players.
Mikithariyan, Martial, Mata nor Lindgaard are better than any of them.
We need better players to augment our top players. Our squad, in my opinion is still work in progress. I see the plan, style of play etc, and I accept that. But we need some top players. Bale. Isco. Griezemann. Thiago (Bayern). Did you watch Modric last night... guys is miles ahead of most of our attacking players. Rashford is way ahead of his fellow attacking players, and in a way i feel for Lukaku.
Look at De Bruyne. Silva. Ericsson. Sanchez. Couthino. Look at Hazard tonight. Gabriel Jesus. These are powerful, effective attacking players.
Mikithariyan, Martial, Mata nor Lindgaard are better than any of them.
We need better players to augment our top players. Our squad, in my opinion is still work in progress. I see the plan, style of play etc, and I accept that. But we need some top players. Bale. Isco. Griezemann. Thiago (Bayern). Did you watch Modric last night... guys is miles ahead of most of our attacking players. Rashford is way ahead of his fellow attacking players, and in a way i feel for Lukaku.
It's mad. He's clearly our best attacking player and just gets the odd few minutes off the bench
Martial is better than Rashford.
Lukaku clearly really likes playing with Martial. They always look for each other and link up really well. I'd say he'd like nothing more than run of games with Martial in the team
Knowing Martial's luck, Lingard will probably now start ahead of him after Rashford's injury 
He clearly likes playing with Rashford too. Mentions the finishing training these 2 do after training.
The only time I feel some thrill when watching us is when has the ball. Beating people for fun is a joy to watch.
True but we're actually seeing the link up play on the field with Martial. It's been a bit hit and miss with Rashford who isn't as good at finding him.
Edit: there's been mentions of all 3 working together a lot. Not just Rashford and Lukaku. But the English media are more interested in the Rom/Rashford partnership hence these interviews
Rashford is not way ahead of his fellow attacking players. IMO, the attacker for us with the most potential is Martial. Moreover, Martial, once he lives up to his potential, definitely belongs in the calibre of players you mentioned above. Also, I think Rashford is somewhat over-rated. He's much better as a ST than as a LF; Martial is much the better player as a LF, mainly due to his far superior dribbling skills.
He won't start based on one decent moment against Liverpool because we've got a tried and tested front four that won us a lot of games this season, in combination with the bench (Martial being the key part of it). It was only logical to go with that formula today, after the shaky performance and atmosphere after last week. It might be unfair to certain players at times but you've got to give preference to a unit that's working, until it isn't. Things will likely change and shift throughout the season and he will probably find himself in a similar "protected" role at some point in time, as well. It's normal.
So true.
I'd love to see us play a front two of Martial and Lukaku now that Rashford is injured. There is some good potential there.
Honestly, this is nothing to do with weather Martial deserves to play or not. I just wanted to state that he brings excitement to our matches.
OK cameo. Nothing more to say as he didn't get the ball a lot.
You guys should stop with this now 'cause it's getting quite ridiculous to justify martial being on the bench and the whole "unit working well thing" is just bollocks as we lacked penetration in this game before martial came in
On that note I propose that the first person who comes in here spewing the tiring line "martial only does this against tired legs" should be threadbanned immediately!
In truth though it is a criminal underrating/writing off of martial's talent to say the reason why he looks good is 'cause he comes on late and thus we should stick with it
In this match his first involvent led to lukaku touching the ball in the box for the first time iirc and he went on to beat his man two or three times in the space of a few minutes, now imagine if he had more minutes to show what he can do
Oh wait, I don't need to imagine 'cause what he showed tonight is almost a like for like replica of his cska performance with his crossing and beating of men leading to assists and goals. Hell he would have had an assist today he had not been so eager to utilise the few minutes he was given
Anyways, I can't wait to see what he does starting regularly in the coming weeks if rashford is out for sometime
You guys think Anthony Martial is better than Marcus Rashford?
I don't. One affects a game a whole, whole lot more. And scores as many, if not more. And takes more responsibility. Who do you think other Premier League teams fear defending against more, over 90mins... Rashford, or Martial.
Rashford has surpassed Martial. It happens. Martial's game is one dimensional, and he doesn't seem to be developing. he used to start for France, and guess what? Other players have emerged and surpassed him.
I don't. One affects a game a whole, whole lot more. And scores as many, if not more. And takes more responsibility. Who do you think other Premier League teams fear defending against more, over 90mins... Rashford, or Martial.
Rashford has surpassed Martial. It happens. Martial's game is one dimensional, and he doesn't seem to be developing. he used to start for France, and guess what? Other players have emerged and surpassed him.
Except, you know, starting every other game in rotation with Rashford.
There's a separate thread for this nonsense. We are lucky to have both players, who are both extremely talented. Not playing for France is not a stick to beat Martial with either.
But he dribbles like Lionel Messi tho...
Weekly reminder to stop comparing Rashford vs Martial here. There's a different thread for that.
A daily and hourly reminder might be required.
Which is idiotic considering some or our other attackers are completely out of form. Why he's trying to develop our two best young talents in the exact same position I have absolutely no idea.
*facepalm
Jesus, leave it out...
Both good.
Crying out to see them on opposite wings starting the match, but Jose wont do that for some reason.
Crying out to see them on opposite wings starting the match, but Jose wont do that for some reason.
He’s a fan of having an impact player coming from the bench, something I don’t think our other attackers are as capable of as Martial and Rashford. Going forward I’m sure we will see them both start, but I don’t think we can complain too much, not unless the results stop coming in.
Then Mata could replace the horribly out of form Mkhi at number 10. It's just so bloody obvious.
What kind of logic is that? How the "unit" worked tonight is irrelevant to the team selection before the game started. That information isn't available then.You guys should stop with this now 'cause it's getting quite ridiculous to justify martial being on the bench and the whole "unit working well thing" is just bollocks as we lacked penetration in this game before martial came in
On that note I propose that the first person who comes in here spewing the tiring line "martial only does this against tired legs" should be threadbanned immediately!
In truth though it is a criminal underrating/writing off of martial's talent to say the reason why he looks good is 'cause he comes on late and thus we should stick with it
In this match his first involvent led to lukaku touching the ball in the box for the first time iirc and he went on to beat his man two or three times in the space of a few minutes, now imagine if he had more minutes to show what he can do
Oh wait, I don't need to imagine 'cause what he showed tonight is almost a like for like replica of his cska performance with his crossing and beating of men leading to assists and goals. Hell he would have had an assist today he had not been so eager to utilise the few minutes he was given
Anyways, I can't wait to see what he does starting regularly in the coming weeks if rashford is out for sometime
Also, I don't know who "you guys" is supposed to be referring to.
Agreed.
I get that but I think we need to try and get the right team on from the start. I see no reason why himself and Martial couldn't play on each wing and swap. Mhki is horribly out of form but is playing every game. Id like to free up Mata to play centrally which he's most suited to.
I'm also hugely curious to see how Martial, Rashford and Rom would link up.
Hold on a minute, I never said Martial was rubbish. I said other players have surpassed him. Dechamps and Mourinho aren't stupid or lacking experience. Are you guys telling me Rashford hasn't surpassed Martial?
Based on what? Of course he has. You can see it. There is no shame in that, it happens! Martial has talent, but, in my opinion, he has to evolve his game. he cannot keep cutting inside the overwhelmingly vast majority of the time. he has to add more to his game.
I'm surprised that others don't seem to see this. Course we are lucky to have the both of them, but if you see a Rashford and a Martial on the same level, then we have to agree to disagree. Rashford is still learning, is far from perfect. But he is, right now, in my opinion, a better player than Martial. Why do I say that...? Because Rashford seems to be able to apply his skills, whatever level they may be, more effectively during a game, than Anthony Martial. That's my opinion. Doesn't mean Martial is a poor player.
Based on what? Of course he has. You can see it. There is no shame in that, it happens! Martial has talent, but, in my opinion, he has to evolve his game. he cannot keep cutting inside the overwhelmingly vast majority of the time. he has to add more to his game.
I'm surprised that others don't seem to see this. Course we are lucky to have the both of them, but if you see a Rashford and a Martial on the same level, then we have to agree to disagree. Rashford is still learning, is far from perfect. But he is, right now, in my opinion, a better player than Martial. Why do I say that...? Because Rashford seems to be able to apply his skills, whatever level they may be, more effectively during a game, than Anthony Martial. That's my opinion. Doesn't mean Martial is a poor player.
I actually want to see the three of them up top together too and I think it’ll happen, but until we start to struggle with results I don’t think we can complain - particularly when we have scored so many late goals this season.
Dear lawd! You still don't get it. This is not a martial vs Rashford thread FFS!
Please take this elsewhere.
We won't have any forwards on the bench if all three start together. I know most fans don't care about that but I think Jose does. He seems to think of the bench as an extension to the starting team, almost an equal to it. I've never thought about it like that until some of his comments last week.
Not sure what you mean here. Lukaku plays every minute so it's 3 out of Martial, Rashford, Mata, Mkhi and Lingard to play behind him. 3 start, 2 on the bench. If Lukaku gets injured Rashford or Martial can go up front. Why do either Martial or Rashford need to be the ones on the bench?
So? With them on the pitch together there is a good chance that we'd get the goals we need earlier in games and put games to bed in the first half, leaving the second half only using Lingard/Mata/Miki as subs to add more control. Isn't that what you want? What's the purpose in having a game changing sub as a sub and leaving him for the last 20 minutes when he can do it from the start and not need the game being changed?
It's not about dealing with eventual injuries but more so having an option to affect the game with the bench. I think Martial and Rashford are not in the same category as Mikhi, Mata and Lingard, even though they all play in the same line. The first two are the ones that can beat their man and score a goal. Primarily that's their job. The others offer different things and I don't think they're in direct contention with them. If you field both of them together you lose the option to use that skillset later in the game. I don't think we have another player who can do what they offer.
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