Android1974
Incredibly anal about player positions in lineups
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One almost roots for Las Palmas to nick this.
6!Doesn't matter, we'll get 3 minutes of injury time
Lahoz vindicated
Why I can't watch La Liga. I won't even bother with El Classico, the play acting, ref surrounding and card waving is just too much, no flow to the games at all.Four (4!) Las Palmas-players have gone to the ground and stayed there for seemingly no reason since I started watching ten minutes ago. VAR isn’t the biggest problem in football, pathetic footballers like these are. Disgraceful, would never happen in England like that.
They've not been that great for most of the season really. Very Messi dependant and just nicking games here and there and now it's balancing out with them drawing a few more than before xmas.Can't believe the league is open again! Barca have literally thrown it away like in 2016. What's up with them collapsing everytime in this period of the season?
They are faking injuries to save their lives, no question about it. I don’t like Barcelona but I hate players like this even more. Spanish football in a nutshellThey're completely exhausted.
next game is between Barca and Atletico too.Just 5 points between 1st and 2nd.
Atletico have EL. It will take its toll.Can't believe the league is open again! Barca have literally thrown it away like in 2016. What's up with them collapsing everytime in this period of the season?
Has he had a good game in a Barca shirt yet ? He's looked so out his depth for the rare handful of games i've seen him play for themDembélé looks out of it.
Consider it marked. Nice jinx yo.Barça will score a minimum of 6 goals against them, mark my words.
just as plannedConsider it marked. Nice jinx yo.
Of course Real will take it seriously if they can give a helping hand in stopping Barca. It also probably helps them to play without pressure and probably puts extra pressure on Barca too knowing their circumstances.Their run in is very easy after Atletico.
Possibly Seville away will be tricky and maybe Valencia at home. Will Real Madrid even take El Clasico seriously as they could be playing a champions league semi final around that time.
Atletico have much harder run in...got Villareal, Alaves (anothe win tonight), Real Madrid and Real Sociedad all aways so can't see them making up the points difference.
If you don't like it why always bashing here, everybody knows Spanish football is different, for instance I like more football from Southern Europe and I don't go to EPL threads or Championship threads calling out horrible decisions by referees regarding tackles.Why I can't watch La Liga. I won't even bother with El Classico, the play acting, ref surrounding and card waving is just too much, no flow to the games at all.
Yes, Barca have yet to lose in La Liga, and Chelsea can’t park the bus like they did in the first leg.What's going on with Barca? I thought they were running away with the league but there's only 5 points separating them from Atletico now. Would it be too far fetched to say Chelsea could knock them or of the Champions League?
They have 3 of the top 10 most expensive players ever alongside him in attack, one of the best defensive midfielders of all time and the defense that’s conceded the least amount of goals in 2017/18. It’s all Messi? If Suarez took penalties he’d be their top goalscorer. You’re massively underrating their team just like a lot of people were doing at the start of the season.They'll still win the league.
But as I've said before I don't think they'll win the CL. They're effective but rely far too much on Messi for... everything. Today's line up wasn't great. Four CMs with Messi and Suarez uptop. No wingers no proper pace out wide. Same approach as against Chelsea. Also Suarez isn't the player he used to be so it's all Messi.
Pretty much spot on, Suarez has been very important, especially when Messi went through a mini goal drought recently.They have 3 of the top 10 most expensive players ever alongside him in attack, one of the best defensive midfielders of all time and the defense that’s conceded the least amount of goals in 2017/18. It’s all Messi? If Suarez took penalties he’d be their top goalscorer. You’re massively underrating their team just like a lot of people were doing at the start of the season.
They have to be the favorites to win the Champions League and they’ll rightfully be disappointed with anything less, especially since Madrid have won 3 in the past 4 years
I think City will go far but then fall apart against a good team. Bayern and Madrid/PSG are the only threats to Barcelona imo and since Barcelona seem to always get the better of Madrid head to head...Pretty much spot on, Suarez has been very important, especially when Messi went through a mini goal drought recently.
We aren't favourites for the CL though, City and probably still Madrid would be ahead of us despite their shit league form. Valverdes insistence on playing Paulinho and Vidal is worrying, especially against the top teams in Europe
Of those 3, Coutinho won't play a single minute in the UCL and we're in March, yet Dembelé hasn't payed more than 400 minutes with Barcelona due to injuries.They have 3 of the top 10 most expensive players ever alongside him in attack, one of the best defensive midfielders of all time and the defense that’s conceded the least amount of goals in 2017/18. It’s all Messi? If Suarez took penalties he’d be their top goalscorer. You’re massively underrating their team just like a lot of people were doing at the start of the season.
They have to be the favorites to win the Champions League and they’ll rightfully be disappointed with anything less, especially since Madrid have won 3 in the past 4 years
Nah don't see them winning the CL either.They have 3 of the top 10 most expensive players ever alongside him in attack, one of the best defensive midfielders of all time and the defense that’s conceded the least amount of goals in 2017/18. It’s all Messi? If Suarez took penalties he’d be their top goalscorer. You’re massively underrating their team just like a lot of people were doing at the start of the season.
They have to be the favorites to win the Champions League and they’ll rightfully be disappointed with anything less, especially since Madrid have won 3 in the past 4 years
Football works in cycle. 3 at the back is to counter 4-3-3, then 4-4-2 to counter 3 at the back. I said this like last season. And this 4-4-2 is not flat. There are not much of real wingers. It's at time like a 4-2-2-2 or 4-3-2-1... The wide midfielders are narrower than your traditional wingersWhat's the attraction of Spain's managers for reviving the flat 4-4-2? I mean, it makes sense for Simeone's Atlético kind of football, but it looks really wrong for Barcelona and even Valencia.
All that is irrelevant. Just watch them and its obvious that they are ridiculously over reliant on Messi going forward. Busquets isn't an attacker. Coutinho and Dembele haven't settled in yet. Surely you know these things?They have 3 of the top 10 most expensive players ever alongside him in attack, one of the best defensive midfielders of all time and the defense that’s conceded the least amount of goals in 2017/18. It’s all Messi? If Suarez took penalties he’d be their top goalscorer. You’re massively underrating their team just like a lot of people were doing at the start of the season.
They have to be the favorites to win the Champions League and they’ll rightfully be disappointed with anything less, especially since Madrid have won 3 in the past 4 years
They are reliant on Messi because he's Messi and he's their best player, same as every team with a star player. But saying that this team is all Messi and that they're not going to win the Champions League because of it is nonsense.All that is irrelevant. Just watch them and its obvious that they are ridiculously over reliant on Messi going forward. Busquets isn't an attacker. Coutinho and Dembele haven't settled in yet. Surely you know these things?
Not at all. Your entire post is built on paper rather than the ground reality. I'm not underrating anyone. I think Coutinho and Dembele are excellent footballers. I rate Suarez as the best CF in (very) recent memory. I think their defense had been superb. And Busquets will to down as one of the greats of his generation.They are reliant on Messi because he's Messi and he's their best player, same as every team with a star player. But saying that this team is all Messi and that they're not going to win the Champions League because of it is nonsense.
Dembele and Coutinho not settled in are better than nearly all of La Liga's forwards and Suarez has been the best striker in the world for the past few months. Their defense has conceded the least amount of goals out of any team on the planet this season too, Alba's been the best fullback in the world, Ter Stegen one of the top 2 keepers in the world, Busquets has been the best defensive midfielder in the world, etc. I don't know how you can look at this team and say 'it's all Messi' when the whole team has been playing the way they've been playing.
I'm only saying this because it's the same conversation that happened during the summer, a lot of people here were treating guys like Alba, Pique, Busquets, Rakitic, Suarez, etc. as if they were some average players for a top team and I said the same thing I'm saying now. These players are geting taken for granted and they're not getting the praise they deserve.
Suarez has scored in 45% of the games he's played this season, his goal distribution through games is completely normal and it's not true he's scoring goals in bunches any more than any other goalscorers do. Messi has scored in 50% of games as a comparison. Of course if you exclude their defense they're going to lack a wide threat when on the left they have the best fullback in the world going forward so far this season and on the right they have Semedo and Sergi Roberto who do a very good job themselves. Their fullbacks are the players who provide that width.Not at all. Your entire post is built on paper rather than the ground reality. I'm not underrating anyone. I think Coutinho and Dembele are excellent footballers. I rate Suarez as the best CF in (very) recent memory. I think their defense had been superb. And Busquets will to down as one of the greats of his generation.
However, none of that negates the fact evident from watching this football team is over reliant on Messi. And to claim that it's the same as any team and their star player I rubbish. Watch any other top team and they don't rely overly on one bloke to drop deep and dictate, create chances and score goals. Yes Messi is unique in that he does all of that which means you're going to utilize those skills. But the extent to which I see them offering not enough in attack from other areas is different.
So the defence and Busquets are irrelevant to this specific discussion. The lack of wide threat like a (inform) Bale, Sane, Robben etc. is a problem coupled with Suarez's tendancy these days to score 7 in 2 and then look like garbage in the next 2.