Exactly. How is there any discussion about that?What are you all smoking? It was a clear penalty
Newcastle's goal shouldn't have stood, though.Premier League Gameweek 3 fixtures (25th - 27th August 2018)
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Newcastle's goal shouldn't have stood, though.Souness thinks it's a penalty too, so there you have it. You're wrong.What are you all smoking? It was a clear penalty
That might be true, I’ve just always thought if you play the ball before the man it’s okay. If they’re the laws then you’ll definitely be right because if Alonso had stayed up he’d still be in possession.
Just seen all the decisions back.
1) penalty could have been either way. Definite contact and movement on the ball but he does take the man with his other leg in a scissor motion.
2) Giroud gets elbowed right in the face. Should have been a foul but not deliberate.
All in all Chelsea deserved the points.
1) penalty could have been either way. Definite contact and movement on the ball but he does take the man with his other leg in a scissor motion.
2) Giroud gets elbowed right in the face. Should have been a foul but not deliberate.
All in all Chelsea deserved the points.
If the interpretation of the rules is now momentum then we're going to see a lot of penalties under VAR. I mean how are defenders going to challenge without any contact on the player
He does actually move the ball away from Alonso.
Deserved win for Chelsea.
Hazard is excellent individually but makes it all about himself and their attacking play becomes somwehat predictable.
Hazard is excellent individually but makes it all about himself and their attacking play becomes somwehat predictable.
Na you're doing this wrong. You need to have a strong decision one way or the other on the penalty. Then laugh at anyone with the opposite opinion.
Good game that. Chelsea played well. Nice to see a team able to retain possession and players moving into space to receive the pass.
Not really, Alonso quite literally fell on the ball. If he stays up the ball is still very much in his possession.
Also, not that sure Yedlin's was a foul either. He's protecting himself. Dunno...
That dick Alonso on the center of things. Ever since I read about his drunken driving killing the passager I have hated him. There should a way harsher penalties on these so called celebs.
Watching the Alonso one the ball does move away from him with the touch. He then falls on it and it moves massively.
Yedlin hits Giroud right in the jaw. No real malice but got to be a free kick.
Newcastle and West Ham will be relegated
Huddersfield and Cardiff are worse
3 out of 3, can't fault that. Chelsea is proving to be a hardest City opponent for the league.
As a classy and charitable club, I'm sure we'll do our bit to help them stay up
I hope they will be.
The ball doesn't move away enough, it's still very much in his availability. Basically if defender doesn't take out Alonso, he'd have been able to keep playing the ball. Touch on the ball doesn't take him out of the play
I know, but if Yedlin doesn't stick out his elbow, he gets headbutted on the chin. He's protecting himself, so...i dunno
We aren't winning the league. We simply don't have the firepower up front like Liverpool and City who each have 2-3 players who can score 20 goals.
How would that be a headbutt on the chin? Giroud was nowhere near his face. Seriously, watch it again.
Btw, didn't pay too much attention to the game but heard Di Canio in the post match and he ripped Chelsea and especially Hazard to shreds. Far cry from Sarri ball yet, according to him, and Hazard was clogging things up and slowing things down and generally making it harder for them, was the gist of it
Video?
If the penalty was soft then their goal was definitely a foul. Also Kovacic got a booking for his first foul yet most Newcastle players were repeat offenders until they got booked late on in the second half.
Tbf, it's a bit hard to play Sarri's style of high pressing, quick passing between the lines etc. when an opponent is literally camped in their half with zero attacking ambition. You can't press and hunt players who don't have the ball.
Top post on page 41, Around 0:43. When you see the shot from behind Yedlin you can see the angle clearly.
Honestly they will get destroyed. Fighting for a point today would have been a good confidence booster.
Now they have played ultra defensive football for a defeat to show.
Somehow I think the sequence of events would have been affected and who knows, Rondon would have scored a hat trick
Bizarre. Hazard won MOTM and was hacked most times he was on the ball by an ultra defensive Newcastle.
Wouldn't be surprised if Chelsea did what they did two years ago.
We had the beast that was Diego Costa up top 2 years ago winning us matches. We ain't pipping City or Liverpool to the title with Morata up front sadly.
You never know, stranger things have happened
I agree, & think they are step below the rest. Newcastle are among quite a few who could join them, & would be no lose with their negative attitude.
Benitez must be one of the most overrated managers around. Makes Mourinho look attacking in comparison with his ultra negative football. When he wins it is all down to his marvellous leadership, but when he loses he blames anyone but himself. Newcastle fans are so deluded in that they think he is some sort of messiah against the evil Ashley. Laughable. In fairness today, they were unfortunate, as it wasn't a penalty, though they deserved to lose for their disgraceful tactics.
Chelsea must be the luckiest side bar Liverpool in getting dodgy penalties falling for them. All sides get decisions but no one gets them like those two sides. People keep going on about VAR saving the game, yet they wouldn't have been any help today, as people would be split whether it was a penalty or not. This was the same for the Newcastle goal which is an interpretation of whether Yedlin fouled Giroud or not, which I think the officials got right, but others think is wrong. Offsides & deliberate handballs like the Wolves one yesterday are one thing, but most are just someone interpretation & just cause more controversy.
I'm not sure there's any point in Newcastle trying to play progressive football with that squad. If they'd got a point today there would be none of this noise about negative football.
You all said the same two years ago. The line then was about having Moses and Alonso as full backs.
Agreed. Rafa has been handed no money, he has limited players .. ffs Joselu is their only goalscorer this season. People really expect them to play good football? The Wolves comparisons are false too, yes they've just been promoted but they've had far more investment/much better connections than Newcastle. Rafa is doing his best with a limited side, he was mid table last season which for the players he has available is good, if they attempted to be something they're not they would be relegated.
Yeh. That elbow moved up so high in not natural position. A definite foul there.
Difference now is that City & Liverpool have settled managers who have been here years and have each invested massively since Conte's first season. The competition is much tougher now than it was even 2 years ago.
You meant Liverpool.
you need to check your sarcasm detector
I know that is the popular consensus. But that is not actually true
5 years la!