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I need more than just one game against Liverpool to prove that.No but maybe they've improved?
I need more than just one game against Liverpool to prove that.No but maybe they've improved?
Well if we manage to win there, any of those are more than capable of doing the same.If we beat City next week even though it is most unlikely, it's a loser for Arsenal, Chelsea and Spurs who probably are guaranteed a loss when they face City at Etihad.
Liverpool have played 11 won 8 drawn 3. Chelsea played 10 won 7 drawn 3. How is that not convincing. I would be absolutely chuffed to bits if we had started as strong as they had. I agree we need a CB, but we also need a RB, and we need to sell some players, Darmian , Rojo and JonesToo early to say, apart from City, the other two are not nearly as convincing as you think. If we continue our run till January and sign a CB, we could even do better. Of course, manager and players must continue to pull together instead of the bickering we saw early on in the season.
We are not going to buy RB, we have Dalot we look to develop into the first team for a decade. CB, RW and perhaps DM are priority for usLiverpool have played 11 won 8 drawn 3. Chelsea played 10 won 7 drawn 3. How is that not convincing. I would be absolutely chuffed to bits if we had started as strong as they had. I agree we need a CB, but we also need a RB, and we need to sell some players, Darmian , Rojo and Jones
Well, we need to buy a RB as Young and Valencia are garbage, and Dalot whilst had showed some promise is far too unproven at this level. RW and CDM fully agree with you.We are not going to buy RB, we have Dalot we look to develop into the first team for a decade. CB, RW and perhaps DM are priority for us
And who's fault is that...One factor in this is that Spurs have only had 4 'home' games so far, out of 11 games played.
It's not a question of fault. It simply means that Spurs are doing well to be only 3 points behind Liverpool after having played so many away games (seven) and missing several first XI players.And who's fault is that...
Oh and we've only had 5
Aye, we're pretty good at that too though.Tottenham are exactly like Arsenal were under Wenger (up until the last 2 years at least). Undeservedly fluking every win against mediocre opposition then abjectly wasting their Champions League place once they actually get there.
Desperately hope luck evens out and they finish well away from the spots as the season progresses.
And Liverpool would point to the fact that they've played 4 of the other top 5 to Spurs' 3 and 3 of those games have been away from home whilst 2 of Spurs' 3 have been at homeIt's not a question of fault. It simply means that Spurs are doing well to be only 3 points behind Liverpool after having played so many away games (seven) and missing several first XI players.
It would be mightily embarrassing for us if Arsenal were the side that got the 4th place. Spurs/Chelsea you could handle but not ArsenalSpurs and Arsenal are dogshit.
Liverpool and Chelsea are alright.
City are good.
We showed last year it's not rocket science to finish above most of them. A good run at the right time made the difference (we had a good start and they never really caught up)
I don't really know if we're good enough to go on a few good runs but if we do, we'll walk into the Top 4. It's totally down to us. I think our heads are a bit fecked and we might end up 5th/6th to be honest but it won't be because other teams were or are too good for us. Arsenal have a positive mindset with their new manager, that may be the difference. I think they could sneak 4th.
1.City
2.Liverpool
3.Chelsea
4.Arsenal
5.United
6.Spurs
If I was a betting man,
Hmm? We never taken a dive in the group stage under Mourinho.Aye, we're pretty good at that too though.
Mentality plays a massive part for me.It would be mightily embarrassing for us if Arsenal were the side that got the 4th place. Spurs/Chelsea you could handle but not Arsenal
I'm sure Liverpool would point to that fact, but then it would be major surprise if United were to finish ahead of them: the teams you need to worry about in terms of a top 4 finish for United are Spurs, Chelsea and Arsenal.And Liverpool would point to the fact that they've played 4 of the other top 5 to Spurs' 3 and 3 of those games have been away from home whilst 2 of Spurs' 3 have been at home
Oh and like us Liverpool have only had 5 home games as well
Why are you talking about United? I only mentioned them to point out that your whole Spurs have only played 4 home games is a moot point given theres a number of clubs who have only played 5 home gamesI'm sure Liverpool would point to that fact, but then it would be major surprise if United were to finish ahead of them: the teams you need to worry about in terms of a top 4 finish for United are Spurs, Chelsea and Arsenal.
As has been pointed out, United and Liverpool have only played one more home game.Spurs have played a huge number of away games in fairness due to the stadium issues. They're away yet again to Palace next Saturday.
Might not mean so much now but they're getting points on the board and think they've got three straight home games in April so that could be crucial in the run in if it's tight for 4th as generally you'd want more home than away games once you get down the last 10 games.
No they haven't. They've played one more away game than a lot of other clubs that's itSpurs have played a huge number of away games in fairness due to the stadium issues. They're away yet again to Palace next Saturday.
Might not mean so much now but they're getting points on the board and think they've got three straight home games in April so that could be crucial in the run in if it's tight for 4th as generally you'd want more home than away games once you get down the last 10 games.
Indeed, we've already had Burnley and Watford back to back away from home, now Bournemouth and City. I actually prefer us playing away from home at the moment though so I'm not going to complainAs has been pointed out, United and Liverpool have only played one more home game.
The fixtures are weird though, don't know why United and Spurs are away again next weekend?
Not quite accurate. In terms of top 4 contenders, we've also played 2 more away games than Arsenal.No they haven't. They've played one more away game than a lot of other clubs that's it
Spurs started with three away games didn't they so that's a knock on effect for other teams who play them around that time.As has been pointed out, United and Liverpool have only played one more home game.
The fixtures are weird though, don't know why United and Spurs are away again next weekend?
And why are you only talking about top 4 contenders? The league has 20 teams in it not 4 or 5. Spurs only have themselves to blame that they haven't had 1 extra home game this season and it's probably not a point they're moaning about because it's pathetic to do soNot quite accurate. In terms of top 4 contenders, we've also played 2 more away games than Arsenal.
Really? If you include Palace next week that's 8 of their first 12 games away from home. Chelsea only had 5 away games, Man. City only 5, Arsenal only 5 etc before next international break.No they haven't. They've played one more away game than a lot of other clubs that's it
And next week we'll of played 7 of our first 12 away from home and I can't imagine we'll be the only side in that boat eitherReally? If you include Palace next week that's 8 of their first 12 games away from home. Chelsea only had 5 away games, Man. City only 5, Arsenal only 5 etc before next international break.
When you factor in it's obviously more difficult to win away than at home I think that's worth noting in their points total.
Errr … because this is a thread about top 4?And why are you only talking about top 4 contenders? The league has 20 teams in it not 4 or 5. Spurs only have themselves to blame that they haven't had 1 extra home game this season and it's probably not a point they're moaning about because it's pathetic to do so
Our home record thus far (Lost to City, lost to Liverpool, lost to Barcelona, beat Fulham 3-1 and scraped a 1-0 win against 10 men Cardiff) is hardly inspiring anyway so I don't see it as making much of a difference.Errr … because this is a thread about top 4?
Who is moaning? Not I. In fact I'm quite pleased that we've accumulated the points we have, knowing that we've played so many away games.
Well, it's still an advantage, however small you feel that to be. Moreover, hopefully from mid January onwards our home games will be proper home games in our new stadium, where I would expect that home advantage to grow.Our home record thus far (Lost to City, lost to Liverpool, lost to Barcelona, beat Fulham 3-1 and scraped a 1-0 win against 10 men Cardiff) is hardly inspiring anyway so I don't see it as making much of a difference.
I get that 3 of those teams are very strong, but at home you would expect at least one draw. I don't view it as that much of an advantage when we're playing at Wembley, we've been extremely inconsistent there and it doesn't fill me with anywhere near the same confidence games at WHL used to.
Well, it's still an advantage, however small you feel that to be. Moreover, hopefully from mid January onwards our home games will be proper home games in our new stadium, where I would expect that home advantage to grow.
No it isn't amazing so far but I'd still prefer to be playing at any kind of home stadium vs an away one.Our home record thus far (Lost to City, lost to Liverpool, lost to Barcelona, beat Fulham 3-1 and scraped a 1-0 win against 10 men Cardiff) is hardly inspiring anyway so I don't see it as making much of a difference.
I get that 3 of those teams are very strong, but at home you would expect at least one draw. I don't view it as that much of an advantage when we're playing at Wembley, we've been extremely inconsistent there and it doesn't fill me with anywhere near the same confidence games at WHL used to.
Yeah City are the only team I've been very impressed with. While good, Chelsea and Liverpool (and I think they will finish 2nd and 3rd) but I think the gap will be closer to 6th than to top spot.Too early to say, apart from City, the other two are not nearly as convincing as you think. If we continue our run till January and sign a CB, we could even do better. Of course, manager and players must continue to pull together instead of the bickering we saw early on in the season.
I wouldn’t be upset if you won that.Next weeks game is huge. Our entire outlook could change with a positive result.