prateik
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It would be a little funny if India Pak got washed out.
No Mr. Smartarse, they can't control the weather. That's why don't give them hosting rights to every major tournament on such regular basis. England have been host to 2013, 2017 CT and 2019 World Cup. That's 3 ICC events in space of 6 years, each and everyone of them have been marred by rain yet not one progress can be seen from 2013.Yes because they get to control the weather . Stop making yourself look like a pratt.
Last year was the driest summer England has seen for sometime as you yourself have adduced to. But its England, even their 'summers' is like a preliminary monsoon season. When you are playing a sport which can be stopped even with the slightest intervention of weather then why persist with awarding hosting rights to a country which clearly sucks at hosting cricketing events of such magnitude?Last year don't think it rained once in June, the whole summer it barely rained over 3-4 months all over Europe where there were heatwaves. It's just unlucky, but still this is Europe where summers can be rainy - they should prepare for weather. Surely someone thought, hang on, what if it rains 7 days in a row?
Look at Mumbai - over the next 14 days most of it is rain. I don't even watch cricket much but can't believe a major tournament in a major sport is being derailed because no one thought to plan for the weather.
I don't think it will be a complete washout. We might see one innings at least but after that who knows. Anyways it will impact ICC big time if this match does not have a result.It would be a little funny if India Pak got washed out.
You're blaming England solely but surely the blame should lie with the tournament organisers for having no reserve days and not taking into account the weather? The fact that there's no roofed stadiums does blow my mind though, I can't imagine a football world cup missing 4 matches to weather and not rearranging the games, it would be an absolute disgrace.No Mr. Smartarse, they can't control the weather. That's why don't give them hosting rights to every major tournament on such regular basis. England have been host to 2013, 2017 CT and 2019 World Cup. That's 3 ICC events in space of 6 years, each and everyone of them have been marred by rain yet not one progress can be seen from 2013.
Explain to me:
1. Why are there no reserve days for the group stage matches when 1999 WC (also hosted in England) had same provision?
2. England won the bid for hosting this WC in 2006, that is 13 years of time to build stadiums with better drainage facilities and a bigger ground staff to put covers on wet outfield compared to only covering the pitch. Why is the ground staff still severely under-equipped?
3. They could've built new stadiums during this time period with roof, or build a roof over existing ones. Why is this the case? Australia built one with roof in early 2000s.
Either choose a window of summer where it doesn't rain, and even then if there is a probability majority of matches will be troubled. Then how about, not given the hosting right to that country?
I have zero time for sanctimonious bullshit served by English fans on this topic on social media, its funny until your team is at the receiving end of it and you get fecked over.
Last year was the driest summer England has seen for sometime as you yourself have adduced to. But its England, even their 'summers' is like a preliminary monsoon season. When you are playing a sport which can be stopped even with the slightest intervention of weather then why persist with awarding hosting rights to a country which clearly sucks at hosting cricketing events of such magnitude?
It is fault of both ECB and ICC, I'm not laying the blame solely at the door of ECB. No reserve day makes zero sense given how unpredictable the weather is but guess what ICC/ECB don't give a feck. Each and everything is insured for, even the broadcasters insure ad spots in between the overs in a cricket match. Only people getting fecked are us fans, I know many who traveled across continents to catch their team play live but weather spoiled it.You're blaming England solely but surely the blame should lie with the tournament organisers for having no reserve days and not taking into account the weather? The fact that there's no roofed stadiums does blow my mind though, I can't imagine a football world cup missing 4 matches to weather and not rearranging the games, it would be an absolute disgrace.
I don't think a country should get barred from hosting major events though, especially given that England is one of the few western countries that actually plays the sport. But clearly whoever's in charge of the tournament need to sort it out because the rain is mitigable circumstance and it's crazy that nothing's been done to avoid this.
I think ultimately cricket isn’t a big enough sport here to warrant building covered stadiums that would go unused or filled to a tiny percentage of their capacity for years. Wembley and Cardiff both are covered but I don’t think the width would allow for big enough boundaries.You're blaming England solely but surely the blame should lie with the tournament organisers for having no reserve days and not taking into account the weather? The fact that there's no roofed stadiums does blow my mind though, I can't imagine a football world cup missing 4 matches to weather and not rearranging the games, it would be an absolute disgrace.
Well that isn't going to happen for the reasons @Snowle Gunnar Solskjær mentioned and so if reserve days aren't enough then international tournament cricket in England can't happen for some. Which is a shame given the diverse fans that there are in the country.England should get to host another cricketing event when they are prepared to not turn it into a total shitshow, that means having state of the art drainage facilities, a properly equipped groundstaff to cover the entirety of field, and obviously few stadiums with a roof.
I actually see a lot of the insurance contracts through work and don’t think that just because it’s insured they’re happy for it to be rained off. By the time they’ve payed the excess and the substantial premium they’re much better off having had the games played.Each and everything is insured for, even the broadcasters insure ad spots in between the overs in a cricket match.
Windies beating England tomorrow would bring back the excitement again.It was building up to be a cracking tournament, now the momentum has been completely lost. It feels deflated.
You are right. Tomorrow's game should be fine. Australia v. SL in oval should also be ok. Innd v. Pak is tricky but it won't be a complete washout and if we are lucky we might get a result too considering the rain is predicted only from late afternoon.Don’t stress anyway lads we might get some play next weekend
Happened with Bangladesh at the Champions Trophy. Any sensible organisation would have used that tournament as a test event, learnt from things that didn't go well and ensured the same mistakes didn't happen two years later in the same month and same conditions. But not ICC.Honestly would like to see Lanka reaching the SF just on the basis of rains for banter.
Well yeah, but complain about that then; some of those moaning about the weather now were vehemently defending the format earlier in the thread!If you can't have reserve days in this format. Then don't use this format in a country where rains are likely. 4 abandoned games is unprecedented in WC. Worse the count will definitely increase. Both India Pak and SA Afg also look dicey right now.
Stop trolling FFSI like the weather being unpredictable. Making this a lot more fun. What I would do to be that guy sitting in the pavilion watching over a drizzle hit a field sipping tea in 10 degree weather
Alright grandpaI like the weather being unpredictable. Making this a lot more fun. What I would do to be that guy sitting in the pavilion watching over a drizzle hit a field sipping tea in 10 degree weather
So basically what you can do in Mumbai for an entire season?I like the weather being unpredictable. Making this a lot more fun. What I would do to be that guy sitting in the pavilion watching over a drizzle hit a field sipping tea in 10 degree weather
Well as @NinjaFletch said, that is at least one benefit of the tournament being so long. With each team playing 9 matches as opposed to just 3 in the Champions Trophy, we should avoid a situation where a team gets to the semis that really shouldn't.Happened with Bangladesh at the Champions Trophy. Any sensible organisation would have used that tournament as a test event, learnt from things that didn't go well and ensured the same mistakes didn't happen two years later in the same month and same conditions. But not ICC.
Yeah. Min number of overs have to be played (something like 20) or else the crowd gets a full refund IIRC.Do the tickets get refunded in case of a washout?
That's good at least then.Yeah. Min number of overs have to be played (something like 20) or else the crowd gets a full refund IIRC.
Money's the insignificant part tbh. I'd be super pissed off if I took a day off work & end up going to a washed out game.That's good at least then.
Of course, it's still pretty shit but there's some consolation.Money's the insignificant part tbh. I'd be super pissed off if I took a day off work & end up going to a washed out game.
The sport needs to find a way to accommodate to its spectators better.
Careful mate...Hope this joke of a country and board don't get to host another ICC event for next 2-3 decades.
It's an obvious solution but imagine the cost. You might be able to do it for one ground but for the WC you'd have to have it on every stadium. Plus on the smaller grounds the roof would be barely off the ground and the batsmen would just keep aiming for it, turning the whole thing into a farce.People talking about building a roof on stadiums like it's a joke or something
West Indies are the biggest losers with this result. Now if they are to be in top 4 they must beat one of England/NZ/Ind to have any chance of reaching top 4.Kiwis really got lucky today.
Adding a roof would completely change the game.It's an obvious solution but imagine the cost. You might be able to do it for one ground but for the WC you'd have to have it on every stadium. Plus on the smaller grounds the roof would be barely off the ground and the batsmen would just keep aiming for it, turning the whole thing into a farce.
One thing they could do, if they don't want to use reserve days, is work on a solution that can be played out in the indoor nets at the ground. They used to do bowl-outs in the nets when matches were rained off in English domestic cricket - perhaps they could do something similar?
Disagree. No one got luck and I feel both teams would fancied a crack at the other.Kiwis really got lucky today.
Your initial post was childish saying England should not host anything for decades. Why does England suck at hosting of events of such magnitude. This is unusual circumstances with so much rain in June. The most cancelled matches at previous world cups has been 2. These were in 1992 and 2003, not a tournament which England hosted. England are free to bid to host as much as other countries are, its the ICC who decides.No Mr. Smartarse, they can't control the weather. That's why don't give them hosting rights to every major tournament on such regular basis. England have been host to 2013, 2017 CT and 2019 World Cup. That's 3 ICC events in space of 6 years, each and everyone of them have been marred by rain yet not one progress can be seen from 2013.
Explain to me:
1. Why are there no reserve days for the group stage matches when 1999 WC (also hosted in England) had same provision?
2. England won the bid for hosting this WC in 2006, that is 13 years of time to build stadiums with better drainage facilities and a bigger ground staff to put covers on wet outfield compared to only covering the pitch. Why is the ground staff still severely under-equipped?
3. They could've built new stadiums during this time period with roof, or build a roof over existing ones. Why is this the case? Australia built one with roof in early 2000s.
Either choose a window of summer where it doesn't rain, and even then if there is a probability majority of matches will be troubled. Then how about, not given the hosting right to that country?
I have zero time for sanctimonious bullshit served by English fans on this topic on social media, its funny until your team is at the receiving end of it and you get fecked over.
Last year was the driest summer England has seen for sometime as you yourself have adduced to. But its England, even their 'summers' is like a preliminary monsoon season. When you are playing a sport which can be stopped even with the slightest intervention of weather then why persist with awarding hosting rights to a country which clearly sucks at hosting cricketing events of such magnitude?
After bails that fall down once ball hits the stump.It's about time we develop balls that bounce on water.
Shit we'll have to wait.After bails that fall down once ball hits the stump.