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Red white and blue vs the red white and blue.
There is a never ending background of parts USA feeling they are ‘not-good-enough runaways from the British aristocracy’. It’s founded on truth, and even if it’s mostly well out dated (Clinton - Blair: who was the lap dog?), imperialistic history warrants some extra tolerance from time to time, don’t you think? Though there is a point there.It was classless just like their celebrations over Thailand at 10-0 up. Can't think of another country that would behave in such a way. Even though it wasn't that offensive to the English celebrating in a mocking fashion of your opponents is very typically American
They still don't have girls teams! I just assumed they would by now.
Nothing against knetball, but fecking yes!They have been talking about this on Talksport this morning and it was brought up about schools having a girls team. That girls should be able to play football if they want rather than being restricted to knetball and hockey.
Even though no one sane would disagree the Dutch will be the underdogs, they do seem to have winners luck on their side. Don't forget the US needed two pks in one of their games or they would ve lost it. The US won't sit as deep as Sweden and physically the Dutch will be able to stand up to the US better so it should be a decent game I hope.Final will be fairly one sided I think. Dutch incredibly fortunate to be here. They’ve been massively second best for large parts of the game against Japan and Sweden now. USA will have a similar pattern of play but they’ll take their chances and punish them.
USA are big favourites, no doubt. The two most difficult questions posed by them is to the Dutch central defence (luckily Van Veenendal is the best keeper of the tournament in dominating the box), and to the physical stamina of the Dutch team. They are not able to pass-and-move-and-interchange for ninety minutes. They are able to punish very defensively diciplined teams though, as they have shown against Canada, Japan, Italy and Sweden.Final will be fairly one sided I think. Dutch incredibly fortunate to be here. They’ve been massively second best for large parts of the game against Japan and Sweden now. USA will have a similar pattern of play but they’ll take their chances and punish them.
Maybe a bit victim of their own success - it’s important to remember the Dutch team was a big surprise two years ago when they albeit deservedly won the Euro’s. They lost to Norway in the qualification to this WC despite being on the whole the better team, but they really come gere as outsiders, not favorites.They've been disappointing whenever I've seen them as well. Particularly Miedema, I thought she'd be one of the stars of the tournament.
Finally Manchester United have arrived
I agree, deserved! She’s played very well but not fancily eye-catching this WC, and that goal was brilliantly taken and couldn’t happened to a more exciting Red Devil!Yes Groenen, you beauty. She deserves it.
Is there a single non American that want the US to win?
Maybe one of the USWNT partners is an immigrant? Other than that, I doubt it.Is there a single non American that want the US to win?
It's hard to tell. There are like 6 billions of non-Americans out there.Is there a single non American that want the US to win?
Are they all members of this forum?It's hard to tell. There are like 6 billions of non-American people out there.
What do you think?Are they all members of this forum?
You’re quite a pompous cock aren’t you?When you're dicking a team to the point where they're getting embarrassed, having massive OTT celebrations is 100% classless and disrespectful IMO. Have a quite little smile and celebration with your teammates but there's no need to take the piss.
The Thailand team were practically amateurs compared to them. But I really don't think anyone can ever expect class or good sportsmanship from an American sports team, so that and the Alex Morgan celebration didn't surprise me one bit.
Yes, here. Maybe only because of the Rapinoe-Trump showdown.Is there a single non American that want the US to win?
Why the heck did I spell it like that? It's like you have to knit a scarf while putting the ball through the hoop.There is a never ending background of parts USA feeling they are ‘not-good-enough runaways from the British aristocracy’. It’s founded on truth, and even if it’s mostly well out dated (Clinton - Blair: who was the lap dog?), imperialistic history warrants some extra tolerance from time to time, don’t you think? Though there is a point there.
Nothing against knetball, but fecking yes!
That sounds like such a typical British sport invented in the 19th century to prevent women from excerting themselves, though.Why the heck did I spell it like that? It's like you have to knit a scarf while putting the ball through the hoop.
That sounds like such a typical British sport invented in the 19th century to prevent women from excerting themselves, though.
I can't really agree on this. I don't think any American's feels the way you indicate anymore. The 'Americans' were imperialists anyway, the founding fathers were British colonists that became separatists from the rule of the monarchy. They continued with their imperial mindset by obliterating the natives and enslaving Africans. They're not exactly deserving of sympathy around British imperial history.There is a never ending background of parts USA feeling they are ‘not-good-enough runaways from the British aristocracy’. It’s founded on truth, and even if it’s mostly well out dated (Clinton - Blair: who was the lap dog?), imperialistic history warrants some extra tolerance from time to time, don’t you think? Though there is a point there.
Yeah, but that happened this year, so I doubt such a monumental disturbance of the universal equilibrium will occur again this soon.If Feyenoord can beat Ajax 6-2 anything is possible
Simple facts. Your celebrations the other night represent everything people expect from an American when you win something.You’re quite a pompous cock aren’t you?
I agree, makes her all the more attractive to me. Those queen bee bitshy types tend to be freaksNah, I know exactly what the mean. Get the exact same aura from Hope.
Like you say .. that kind of bitchy high school girl that ends up being a suburban 'mom' with a fake smile plastered on 24/7. She's just got that general vibe to her.
I might be completely wrong and she's lovely, tbf.
Not to derail this thread into Anglo-American post-colonialist history, I’ll keep with saying I get your points, and that I’m neither impressed with nor particularly negative to their celebrations.I can't really agree on this. I don't think any American's feels the way you indicate anymore. The 'Americans' were imperialists anyway, the founding fathers were British colonists that became separatists from the rule of the monarchy. They continued with their imperial mindset by obliterating the natives and enslaving Africans. They're not exactly deserving of sympathy around British imperial history.
I don't think she was making a political statement from what she has said about it. I think she just thought the lazy stereotype would be a cool celebration. It isn't particularly offensive I was just making the observation that I can't really think of another nation that would behave like that.
I want them to win. I'm getting a bit tired of the anti-American sentiment. This team is great, their attack is a joy to watch and that alone is reason enough. Meanwhile, this Dutch side is functional but nothing to get really excited about. There's something to admire about getting the most out of such a team, but I want more from a world champion.Is there a single non American that want the US to win?
I don't get the issue, there's 5 hours between the WWC and Copa and then another 4 hours or something til the Gold Cup.American players and 'experts' complaining that the WWC final is being played on the same day as the Copa and Gold Cup finals. Aly Wagner saying this never would have happened with the men's world cup. No shit. For obvious reasons they wouldn't be playing Copa or Gold Cup during the men's world cup you dumb feck.
It gets better. Morgan now finds the criticism of her tea celebration reflects a clear double standard. Because men are never called out for celebrations, I guess is her belief.American players and 'experts' complaining that the WWC final is being played on the same day as the Copa and Gold Cup finals. Aly Wagner saying this never would have happened with the men's world cup. No shit. For obvious reasons they wouldn't be playing Copa or Gold Cup during the men's world cup you dumb feck.
It’s a tough travelling day, though.I don't get the issue, there's 5 hours between the WWC and Copa and then another 4 hours or something til the Gold Cup.
That was my first reaction as well, particularly given the biennial schedule for the Gold Cup and the seemingly random one for the Copa - hard to avoid a clash with something and not a particularly bad one in TV terms.I don't get the issue, there's 5 hours between the WWC and Copa and then another 4 hours or something til the Gold Cup.
FIFA only care about making more money.
It gets better. Morgan now finds the criticism of her tea celebration reflects a clear double standard. Because men are never called out for celebrations, I guess is her belief.
I think you're right - it all sounds a bit "putting the cart before the horse"' stuff. I can't see the depth of football quality being there to support it in time for 2023.FIFA want to expand the WC to 32 teams and create a Club World Cup. Expansion is probably a tournament too early I think. Will be some huge scores if they do it, unless it's more European sides. 2027 would make more sense as the overall quality will have improved a lot by then.
They need to stop trying to mirror the men's set up and let it develop organically.FIFA want to expand the WC to 32 teams and create a Club World Cup. Expansion is probably a tournament too early I think. Will be some huge scores if they do it, unless it's more European sides. 2027 would make more sense as the overall quality will have improved a lot by then.
A Club World Cup will end up being a bit farcial. The Oceanic Fed side would lose 20-0 at least to Lyon or whatever US side qualifies. African sides wouldn't be near competitive either. Asian sides would do alright. Would rather they just did a Europe v North America. Would be a genuinely good competitive game. Might sound selfish but the level around the World just isn't good enough to justify a CWC in my opinion. Obviously the mens isn't competitive in terms of the top v bottom sides either but they would never end up in any massive scorelines.
but isn't making a like for like comparison.“I feel that there is some sort of double standard for females in sports to feel like we have to be humble in our successes and have to celebrate, but not too much, but it always has to be in a limited fashion,” Morgan said. “You see men celebrating all around the world in big tournaments, grabbing their sacks or whatever it is, and when I look at sipping a cup of tea, I’m a little taken aback. You have to laugh about it, to see all of the criticism.”