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Rozay

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He’s played far worse than he played last night. Only no penalty or assist to grab the plaudits. I don’t think he played particularly poorly per se.
 

TrustInJanuzaj

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I think he played very well. Pogba will take the plaudits but Bruno was finding some great spaces in that second half and wasn’t giving the ball away as much as usual, he just didn’t create as much either. Solid performance.
 

AltiUn

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That's what I like about Fernandes and Pogba in the same team, if one of them plays poorly you've still got the other to pick up the slack. Although I didn't think Fernandes was poor at all, he just didn't get a goal or an assist but he still very much influenced the game.
 

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So he did not have an assist or goal since 2 games now. Is that the first time ever since he joined us?
 

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His form dropped a little but only in numbers. He still assists and shoots a lot. Only difference is that last few games his shots are saved and chances created are not converted in goals by attackers.
I have zero fear about him.
 

MiracleInMadrid

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In a game like yesterday, where he wasn't doing his usual business goal- and assist-wise, he still manages to make very good use of the ball. Yesterday he often recieved the ball with 2 or 3 Burnley players swarming around him and he still managed to get away and keep possesion due to his clever first touch. He just knows what he needs to do before recieving the ball. We don't have many players like that. In addition he is constantly directing the other players. Even Pogba - and I noticed that Pogba followed his directions.

You could see that Burnley constantly was aware of where he was, and how they used several players to lock him down. That gave up space and time for Pogba and Matic, and they delivered very well. This is the benefit of having a player in midfield besides Bruno that can do things on the ball and be a playmaker. With Fred or McTominay instead of Pogba yesterday, I think we would have had a much harder time keeping control of the game and create good situations for Bruno and the attacking front three.
 

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I don't think he was poor, far from it. He was on par with the team. People just use a different standard to evaluate his performance.
 

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I don't think he was poor at all.

He managed to retain possession without many needless giveaways and keeps up on top for large periods of the game by popping everywhere.

His shooting was off though and his attempts to put Cavani on goal were ineffective.
 

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Solid performance, the way him and pogba can take possession and keep the ball moving in tight spaces through the midfield is invaluable.

In earlier games absolutely everything has gone through him and is actually good that the reliance on him seems to be reducing a little.
 

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Thought he wasn't playing as many of the lower percentage passes last night. Was a tad more conservative.
Ole may have had a word about giving up possession and inviting pressure on ourselves.
Overall had a tidy game. He has set the bar so high he seems to be judged on unfair standards.
 

Bwuk

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I'm fine with him not having 10/10 performances every week. It's not going to consistently happen. The key for me is if we can get Pogba in the side, we shouldn't be as reliant on Bruno to do something.
 

romufc

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What we are beggining to see is that when he is playing, we move the ball better in the final third. He creates space for other players too.
 

Sylar

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We havent had a penalty in three games now. Ridiculous.

Hopefully he gets one to win the game vs Liverpool.

I do think he needs a rest as hes been carrying us for a year now. An extended rest not just one cup game off. We need to find a way to do that. Ideally it would have been the FA cup, and then the fulham game (but we dont have a non league team like others do).
 

Beachryan

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If we can acknowledge when he's excellent, (which he generally is) we should also be able to note when he's pretty awful. Like he was last night. If Burnley had scored from his early miscontrol (which led to an excellent Bailly block) he'd probably escape the kind of criticism Pogba gets. Just saying.

I think he should have come out at the 60th at the latest. If VDB was genuinely brought in to be a sub for Bruno, a midweek match against Burnley away when he's stinking up the joint, immedeatly after VDB was decent seems like an absolute softball for Ole. And yet, here we are. Bruno offered nothing in those last 30 minutes except tiring himself out a bit more.
 

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He is half the player without penalties.
Ridiculous. Go check who has created most chances in Europe.

Penalties are not a chance creation.

Watch United properly and you will realise the impact he has on the rest of the players.
 

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Ridiculous. Go check who has created most chances in Europe.

Penalties are not a chance creation.

Watch United properly and you will realise the impact he has on the rest of the players.
I watch United properly though, and I agree with most things you have said.
Most goals from open play of any midfielder in the league.
That's true

He is the best player in the league, deal with it.
He is our player, and one of our best, so don't see why I have to argue.
 

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For all his critics, skysports showed our numbers since Bruno and in 30 games since he arrived, we are top team in terms of points agained. That's a significant number of games so his impact is undeniable. There are some critics of Ole who claim that Ole's current placement is solely down to Bruno's arrival and that he would have been out of the job had we not managed to sign him. He can be frustrated but is most of the reason we have transformed. check the points table since he came
 

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I wouldnt read too much into his performance yesterday. Burnley's whole game plan is to have two really tight banks of 4 on the edge of the penalty area to squeeze out all the space between the lines. That forces teams to resort to crosses from the side and long shots. With two big centre halfs and a goalkeeper who excels in both shot stopping and collecting crosses, its a good tactic for them. Bruno thrives on space and, and in truth, really intricate little passes in crowded areas are not quite his biggest strength, so it was bound to be a tough match for him. At least he worked hard, as ever.

We'll get a better assessment after Liverpool this weekend. We're likely to spend a lot of time defending against them and looking to counter attack, which will leave space for him to play in. Hopefully we'll see the best of him then.
 

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For all his critics, skysports showed our numbers since Bruno and in 30 games since he arrived, we are top team in terms of points agained. That's a significant number of games so his impact is undeniable. There are some critics of Ole who claim that Ole's current placement is solely down to Bruno's arrival and that he would have been out of the job had we not managed to sign him. He can be frustrated but is most of the reason we have transformed. check the points table since he came
I hate when managers want to sign great players and do so. It shows real weakness. Remember Ferguson signed Cantona. And then half a season later signed Roy Keane. What a fraud.
 

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For all his critics, skysports showed our numbers since Bruno and in 30 games since he arrived, we are top team in terms of points agained. That's a significant number of games so his impact is undeniable. There are some critics of Ole who claim that Ole's current placement is solely down to Bruno's arrival and that he would have been out of the job had we not managed to sign him. He can be frustrated but is most of the reason we have transformed. check the points table since he came
Better players lead to a better team and better placement. You won't see a group full of mediocre players suddenly become title winners, regardless of whatever myths came about with Sir Alex. It all has to come together. We finished top because Rooney was a top player, Carrick was a top player, we had the experience of multiple previous world class players who were still at a good level, quality wingers with Nani/Young/Valencia, and more than anything, arguably the best striker in the world with RvP that season. The decline in the following seasons was a mix of Sir Alex leaving and the players declining or not having the same motivation anymore.

United before Bruno had the option of Andreas Pereira or Lingard as the #10, with Mata or Dan James on the right (with Greenwood having just turned 18), and then Rashford and Martial playing every possible game. Pogba injured the entire year. So of course with that lineup we would put out mid table type results, because we were using multiple mid tables players as regular starters!
 

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Better players lead to a better team and better placement. You won't see a group full of mediocre players suddenly become title winners, regardless of whatever myths came about with Sir Alex. It all has to come together. We finished top because Rooney was a top player, Carrick was a top player, we had the experience of multiple previous world class players who were still at a good level, quality wingers with Nani/Young/Valencia, and more than anything, arguably the best striker in the world with RvP that season. The decline in the following seasons was a mix of Sir Alex leaving and the players declining or not having the same motivation anymore.

United before Bruno had the option of Andreas Pereira or Lingard as the #10, with Mata or Dan James on the right (with Greenwood having just turned 18), and then Rashford and Martial playing every possible game. Pogba injured the entire year. So of course with that lineup we would put out mid table type results, because we were using multiple mid tables players as regular starters!
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No questioning his playing ability. Probably the best AM in the prem I would say. If he could stop is wingeing and moaning he'd be even better! Get the feeling he can be a pain in the arse in the dressing room. Could be wrong!
 

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No questioning his playing ability. Probably the best AM in the prem I would say. If he could stop is wingeing and moaning he'd be even better! Get the feeling he can be a pain in the arse in the dressing room. Could be wrong!
Honestly, who gives a feck if he is? Roy Keane gives the impression that he's a pain in the arse to those around him every second of his life. He's still arguably the best captain we've ever had, in one of the most successful teams there's ever been.

I wish more of our players moaned like Bruno, most of them come across as too passive and soft to me.
 

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Im one of his biggest fans but he has been very poor last 4 games now (burnley, wolves, villa, city)

Needs to pick up some form.
 

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His form dropped a little but only in numbers. He still assists and shoots a lot. Only difference is that last few games his shots are saved and chances created are not converted in goals by attackers.
I have zero fear about him.
i am actually glad he still has the confidence to shoot despite not converting. In the game against city, he was shooting from outside the box and pushing to create a threat which is always needed and is good to see. We’ve missed that in previous years when we’re at the back foot.

agree with your conclusion, zero fear about him. He’s pure quality
 
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it’s why I think assists are shit.

they get so much prominence and are celebrated far too much. I couldn’t care less who touches the ball before a player scores. It’s a bollocks metric.

I do however, use my eyes, and he’s a brilliantly effective player.Us winning, and him being average is no bad thing.
Terrible post that if shown to Becks would probably have him launching the phone at the wall.

Assists are massive in football and the ones who supply the most are often the most valuable players in the game.
 
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