He is the very definition of average on a good day. The absolute cheek of that celebration. As I’ve said before he is a champion of tribalism and will be nothing more in his career. Those comparing him to Smalling are severely overrating him and underrating the latter. The fact that he is our captain is beyond embarrassing.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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Against a pub team, that's the point. If he does it against Italy or Germany in the World Cup final he can 'silence the critics'. Thinking a training game against Albania proves anything is a huge misjudgement from him.
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Would you reel off in wild knee slides if you scored against your local under 14 side!?
Keane is spot on. Hopefully, when a new manager walks in, the team will have a new captain. Cristiano, Bruno, Cavani or De Gea. Not the slabhead.
Given the state of modern football I wouldn’t be surprised if it was his ‘team’ who advised him to celebrate like that, in the event that he scored.
A picture would then be used on all his social media accounts of Captain Maguire ‘silencing his critics.’
Thankfully he’s been absolutely pilloried for it which has probably made them think twice.
Yes, I know I’m cynical.
A picture would then be used on all his social media accounts of Captain Maguire ‘silencing his critics.’
Thankfully he’s been absolutely pilloried for it which has probably made them think twice.
Yes, I know I’m cynical.
Roy’s right, an utterly embarrassing and shameless celebration. He’s scored a header in a match England would genuinely have won comfortably with 10 men, after scuffing chance after chance like that for us in actual important games, with the latest one being against City at 0-0.
Aside from that, he’s been absolutely rubbish this season if we’re being honest. He’s genuinely made mistakes in every game since returning. As someone mentioned earlier, I’ve always thought Smalling comparisons were kind to him; Maguire will never reach the levels Smalling did in 2015-16 and 2017-18. He’s also not as positionally aware, prolific in front of goal and nowhere near as quick. He’s a slightly better passer, I’ll give him that.
He’s simply not got the attitude to be United captain as well. In a team with De Gea, Varane, Pogba, Bruno, Cavani and Ronaldo, the relegated Hull defender who says “I’m here because I have to be” after losing 0-5 to Liverpool and celebrates by going full Xhaka against Albania should not even be in the running for vice-captaincy. Not least that even if he wasn’t or didn’t do these things, he simply wouldn’t be respected by these world class players as he’s just not that good. I’d hand it to Ronaldo already - he’s clearly the leader of the team and looks to be the one trying his utmost to hold the dressing room together at the moment. It’s a far better image to have him captain us than Maguire as well.
Aside from that, he’s been absolutely rubbish this season if we’re being honest. He’s genuinely made mistakes in every game since returning. As someone mentioned earlier, I’ve always thought Smalling comparisons were kind to him; Maguire will never reach the levels Smalling did in 2015-16 and 2017-18. He’s also not as positionally aware, prolific in front of goal and nowhere near as quick. He’s a slightly better passer, I’ll give him that.
He’s simply not got the attitude to be United captain as well. In a team with De Gea, Varane, Pogba, Bruno, Cavani and Ronaldo, the relegated Hull defender who says “I’m here because I have to be” after losing 0-5 to Liverpool and celebrates by going full Xhaka against Albania should not even be in the running for vice-captaincy. Not least that even if he wasn’t or didn’t do these things, he simply wouldn’t be respected by these world class players as he’s just not that good. I’d hand it to Ronaldo already - he’s clearly the leader of the team and looks to be the one trying his utmost to hold the dressing room together at the moment. It’s a far better image to have him captain us than Maguire as well.
Interesting choice of celebration.
No doubt he'll rugby tackle his fellow player for us next week, I bet.
No doubt he'll rugby tackle his fellow player for us next week, I bet.
His celebration isn't something to read too much into it. Whether he celebrates widly or modestly, it's not what will matter in the end. I couldn't agree care less if he did summersaults vs Albania, I wanna see how he will perform for Utd
Bizarre celebration. Your job is to defend and you've been objectively terrible at it. Scoring a hatrick won't change that.
Ok, he’s been absolutely dog shit for a month or two, but if last nights performance can give him the confidence to start strutting his stuff for us again then good. He’s our captain - like it or not - and he will always play when fit. He has been very good these last few seasons and if he and Varane can form a partnership then we could be in business. Regardless of who is managing.
We need our best players finding some confidence. We need CL football next season and HM will need to be a part of that push to get us back up the table.
We need our best players finding some confidence. We need CL football next season and HM will need to be a part of that push to get us back up the table.
Maguire is great in the air especially during offence. He got carried away during his celebration. Let's not be carried away ourselves.
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Imagine being Harry Maguire today, the day after thinking you've done something really clever only to have it dawn on you, you've made the shitstorm you were already in a thousand times worse with one misguided celebration.
He's going to have more people on his back than he ever has had at the club now and many who sympathised and tolerated his poor level this season will no longer accept any of it... all for a moment of madness.
My views on him are well documented, and I don't often speak up about him, but I'm aware that mostly when I do, it's to disparage him, although I've been defending him from the round of criticism he's had since returning to the United fold, I believe, prematurely, but he's made a rod for his own back now and I think the goodwill he had will absolutely not be there for him anymore - I think there's about to be a conflation between Ole's woes and Maguire's and he'll be the one people get at for every poor performance we have now whilst the game is live. He'll be a soft buffer for Ole temporarily.
The problem with Maguire's constitution is that he's shown he can't handle pressure here and hastens the collision course we're invariably on during matches with his own calamitous contributions, one can only wonder how much worse he's going to be now with people baying for him off the back of his actions on international duty.
I've had a go at Keane for digging out players whilst masterfully avoiding tearing into Ole, but there's one thing we all know about Keane, irrespective of what manager do or don't do and it's standards he sets for players, especially United ones - I think this time round, his views will be almost 100% aligned with the fanbase, which is basically a nail into Maguire's proverbial coffin. I genuinely think he's going to get booed now for mistakes he makes and poor performances for us.
The word 'toxic' gets thrown around a lot these days, but I can't think of a better one to use when thinking of the environment we're going into once international duty is over. It has the potential to be a brutal period where things actually get worse than they are now and Maguire is going to end bearing the brunt of it.
He's going to have more people on his back than he ever has had at the club now and many who sympathised and tolerated his poor level this season will no longer accept any of it... all for a moment of madness.
My views on him are well documented, and I don't often speak up about him, but I'm aware that mostly when I do, it's to disparage him, although I've been defending him from the round of criticism he's had since returning to the United fold, I believe, prematurely, but he's made a rod for his own back now and I think the goodwill he had will absolutely not be there for him anymore - I think there's about to be a conflation between Ole's woes and Maguire's and he'll be the one people get at for every poor performance we have now whilst the game is live. He'll be a soft buffer for Ole temporarily.
The problem with Maguire's constitution is that he's shown he can't handle pressure here and hastens the collision course we're invariably on during matches with his own calamitous contributions, one can only wonder how much worse he's going to be now with people baying for him off the back of his actions on international duty.
I've had a go at Keane for digging out players whilst masterfully avoiding tearing into Ole, but there's one thing we all know about Keane, irrespective of what manager do or don't do and it's standards he sets for players, especially United ones - I think this time round, his views will be almost 100% aligned with the fanbase, which is basically a nail into Maguire's proverbial coffin. I genuinely think he's going to get booed now for mistakes he makes and poor performances for us.
The word 'toxic' gets thrown around a lot these days, but I can't think of a better one to use when thinking of the environment we're going into once international duty is over. It has the potential to be a brutal period where things actually get worse than they are now and Maguire is going to end bearing the brunt of it.
@Fortitude Its not quite Streisand effect but it’s something similar. Can’t quite put my finger on it.
I like Maguire but Keane was spot on, embarrassing behaviour from him.
Harry with an own goal of a celebration.
Albania is his level, that’s why.
I can't see this one washing over because we're in turmoil as a club and he's now offered himself up as a lightning rod to divert a good deal of ire away from both his manager and other under-performing team-mates. Prior to this incident, I think he was sympathised with and got away with more poor performances than many others would because of the image he perpetuated, but I think that's no more now.
He can't even go down his usual 'sorry' routine path now, either, as he's exhausted that and has been called out on it by Keane before yesterday - I think his only way out is to have a massive upturn in performance for us where his game does the talking and apologising for him, but it's a big ask of someone having their worst season at the club!
Agreed on everything — he’s just going to be more scrutinised now.
Sam Pigler made a decent point in his tweet, to the effect of; actually win something before cupping your fecking ears.
Bizarre celebration from him, which actually tells you that he cares what people think of him very, very much — which is concerning at this level.
He really hasn’t though. The weirdest narratives get spun for certain squad members. He’s been a poor signing, & should never have been made captain. Doubters have been proven right in very short time.
I’ve not seen enough of Varane to comment but I think with De Gea not being prepared to come off his line you end up needing someone like Maguire who for all his faults is strong in the air. I certainly don’t think that Bailly is the answer, whatever the question!
It's only a short 5 second of celebration after scoring a great header.
What an overreactionThe outrage
G'wan 'arry!
G'wan 'arry!
It's never ending with some of you guys
This is the same person who went on a holiday during pandemic, visiting another country and fought with the locals then he said it himself that he was traumatized. Enough said. Tells you everything you need to know about the person. As long as he can get his form back I wouldnt mind though.
He’s been as bad as Pogba on and off the pitch, I’m glad people are starting to recognise it.
What's mental from the club is that they've left a rotten situation to stew, and fans aren't coming back with a clear head and willing a fresh start - they're baying for blood, sackings and accountability, and now Maguire has poured petrol on what was already a hot frying pan of rage, so even what was supposed to die down over these two weeks has instead been amped up even further. I'd insert a green smilie here if it wasn't all so tragic.
Maguire has been called tone deaf for not reading the room and the audience and it does boggle the mind that his lack of self-awareness is that high - I'm again thinking of what must be going through his head this morning. The world must feel like a small place for him because the spotlight is intense!
It wouldn't be so bad for Maguire if he wasn't culpable for so many goals against this season - like, if he were the defiant captain, playing well, and telling the world he'll remain defiant, but he's not got a leg to stand on here. It's a terrible piece of PR from him. (again, a green smilie would be warranted if it wasn't so disastrous for us!)
No, someone i follow retweeted it
come on lads. He celebrated a goal he scored. There’s nothing to talk about here. Save the energy for when he has a bad game (probably watford next week)…
Maguire scored a goal and let the emotion out. Got slagged off by a rent-a-quote pundit who clearly doesn’t think much of him and just 2 weeks ago was impersonating his voice making him out to be a boring robot. Nothing more to it and most people won’t care.
Maguire has been really bad, but someone needs to tell Keane shut the feck up. It's been more than 15 years since SAF shut him down, and he's forgotten that really valuable lesson.
Criticism against him is justified. Scoring an unmarked header, against Albania, literally means F all.
Embarrassing.
Embarrassing.
Nobody is questioning him celebrating. It's the cupping his ears as if to say who is questioning me now.
Not so good. Keane is dead on about us these days. We are a shitshow
What a load of nonsense. The imaginary narratives are starting to come out now and all the hyperbole that comes with it.
There’s nothing wrong with that celebration either ffs. This place is so toxic when they decide to hate our players.
Yes, he's been easily worse.What a load of nonsense. The imaginary narratives are starting to come out now and all the hyperbole that comes with it.
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