I think her parents were from Mauritius & Kenya? Not sure, but I would imagine they were both British Citizens. Most migration from those two countries at that time was British citizens leaving as the colonies gained independence.
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Has Ten Hag been sacked yet? We're not sure and we hope not, but it's looking more likely as the days pass.
Who should replace him and why is it taking so long to make a decision?
I think the optics look pretty bad when most polling suggests most the electorate want a new GE.
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Labour are making sensible choices by attacking where the divisions in policy and world view are within the Conservative Party.
Asking them to put on record publicly that their own party cannot elect an effective leader would be stupid and only get them to bang their heads together and sort their shit.
Asking them to put on record publicly that their own party cannot elect an effective leader would be stupid and only get them to bang their heads together and sort their shit.
Oh it will make them look bad
Suella actually proving to be surprisingly effective at something, who’d have thought it possible
Good luck to any Tory coming out to the media and praising Lizz in that situation, and saying what a wonderful leader she is, how she is sooo much better than Sir Kier.....
Yeah they wouldn't last 5 seconds doing so without being laughed at.
They can't and will not "sort their shit out", it is far to much past the point of no return.
Does all this prove that anarchy works and we should immediately switch to it?
This was out before what you said yesterday though. I thought this is because he told press she described Javid as shit?
She's not white. The establishment is.
I only shared because it says he was a spad during her time at the treasury, not because of the story itself.
Is the lettuce actually going to win the livestream?
Far more likely unified against a common enemy and they have 2 years
This is all still down to Boris for me.
He had to surround himself and fill his party with bigger idiots than him to protect himself from the fact he was an idiot, and now he's gone we're left with a government full of people at a level of ignorance and stupidity that requires them to ignore basic facts.
I'm not sure they would "unite" behind anything either. A room full of stupid people will always fall out. Especially when there is a hierarchy of power.
He had to surround himself and fill his party with bigger idiots than him to protect himself from the fact he was an idiot, and now he's gone we're left with a government full of people at a level of ignorance and stupidity that requires them to ignore basic facts.
I'm not sure they would "unite" behind anything either. A room full of stupid people will always fall out. Especially when there is a hierarchy of power.
Nope, they will not get behind Lizz, no chance of that, she is done as a leader (if she ever actually was a leader at all).
Imagine anyone going on TV or radio and saying that she is a far better leader than Sir Kier, they wouldn't get through the interview.
Far too much has happened for the Tories to rally behind Lizz.
you take that back.
We see/hear comments like this every day, yet she’s still PM. Officially anyway.
PM in name/title only, she has about as much authority as any of us on here.
They would back Liz Truss publicly and give her a few more months otherwise its saying that their party doesn't have confidence in itself.
The party has only not removed her because the wings cannot decide on who should replace her. It would create a motivation point to compromise on a candidate to appoint in due course.
Again. Its far better to pick at the divisions than to remind them of the common enemy.
Sometimes you have because to take a step back and appreciate how mad this is. Over here in Ireland our only controversy consists of the government complaining they can’t slander Sinn Fein without facing legal action.
Hundreds of Tory MPs will lose their jobs if there is an election tomorrow, as one of them said last night here is nothing more ex than ex MP.
Some would definitely be able to go back to mates in the city etc and get jobs, but loads would not especially after the last few weeks, so any vote of no confidence will fail as they are scared of being out of work. They also have mortgages and face a huge rise in the cost of living. I'm not saying they are poor but they'll be worried, they're not all Rees-Moggs.
But they are stuck between a rock and hard place, if they change leader again the outside pressures for an election will become huge, they are already in the position where even the Tory supporting press is pointing out they have a leader and now policies that no one has voted on and that are in some cases diametrically opposed to the 2019 manifesto.
But if they stick with Truss life will only get worse, the winter could get really bad and if we start having rolling blackouts etc the pressure will grow and grow.
I think we'll probably end with an election either just before Christmas or in March as the party completely implodes.
Some of them would be best defecting to other parties. Plenty are in seats that were never going to stay Tory anyway so they should own their destiny.
We might see that with some of those in fracking areas especially.
More class than racism today in the UK, imho. Imperial delusion, with its sense of empowerment in the upper class (remember Boris muttering colonial verses while on duty abroad?), stems from allowances, land concessions, plebs of any color working for them and past wars glory…. All being history and pretty irrelevant today.
EDIT: no wonder there is an aspirational fit among some lower class descendents, and the Tories are good at making them feel successful in that?
My point is that you said the people on the plane were like her parents. Not hard to see why she might feel differently.
I didn't realise he looked so much like Farage.
We have already seen that anyone going on TV, radio or doing other press interviews prasing Lizz now is getting pummelled (and rightly so), how on earth could anyone do so if a VONC was called?
The leaks wouldn't suddenly dry up, the message wouldn't suddenly be, "oh actually when I said she was rubbish, I actually meant she was terrific!", things are waaayyyy too far gone now.
There is no way that Lizz could get the backing of the majority of her party you would get the lickspittles of course, but the vast majority would still be against her.
Yvette Cooper laying into the PM factually and fiercely. She is an extremely capable MP.
So Truss is gone then?
She has always been very good.
You would be, yourself, putting the enemy on 'death ground' fighting you, rather than in a state of conflict with each other.
They wouldn't be backing Truss, they would be backing the party and would potentially galvanise them. It's Textbook.
Anyway...
Yeah, in my (admittedly pretty insignificant) job as a EU political analyst, she always comes up flying. I am not expert enough of UK recent history to understand why Labour never had her as leader (Italy is the same… glass ceiling for women in the left, and now the first possible woman PM from the right if her male allies let her try)
They would be backing Truss, as who else would they be backing??
Truss is at least currently at 10:53am UK time, their leader in name only right now, so they would have to come out and publicly say just why she would be or is a better leader than Sir Kier, and why they back her.
As soon as anyone does that, their credibility would be zero.
The only party that will remove her from office is the Tories.
They will not allow Labour to claim her scalp and will try to save face. I'm shocked that you can't see that.
They know she needs to go, but cannot decide on an alternative which is saving her. A VoNC brought by Labour will only act as motivation to decide on a unifying candidate to be brought in in due course.
Your input is far from insignificant. We need to hear from people like you with your wider experience.
Exactly that.
There isn't a unifying candidate, that is the point, there isn't anyone who can bring the party together, as such names like Boris, Hunt and Sunak all have their respective issues (two of those are criminals, the other destroyed the NHS), so where this notion comes from that all of sudden everything would be harmonious in the Tory party, and everyone would be singing from the same hymnn sheet, I have no idea.
No matter who they chose, or if they stick with Lizz, there is no way that they could come together.
Yes, because she is delusional.