I would absolutely fecking care wrt. City being stripped of their titles. They won them unfairly and fecked every other club out of the competition - we've effectively all been wasting our time following the game as they've been operating on a completely different playing field to everybody else. If they aren't stripped of them, they've gotten away with it.
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If the Pl prove their case and City are found to have been cheating then they should be stripped of whatever they won during that timeframe, I'm not fussed on awarding them to us retrospectively, just void those years. It happens in every other sport, why should football be any different?
Well, that’s me convinced this cheating should be swept under the carpet.
Nah. Punish the fans too. They’re complicit. Make them turn up to the Etihad.
Don't get me wrong - I'd like/want it to happen, but they've had the joy, celebrations and recognition already. Removing a number from history won't ever change that.
The Aguero moment etc, the hurt we felt and the joy they got will not be changed.
That's why for me it doesn't really matter whether they get stripped or not. I'd prefer their name was muddied from now on. Even if they have 30 titles to their name, every 1 of them will be seen as cheating which is far more powerful IMO.
By that logic, a man should not go to prison for committing a crime because his wife and kids will be affected.
It will definitely change things because they won't have any titles. Removing their titles from history shows how significant their level of cheating was. They financially doped themselves and cheated their way to success and relevancy - Lance Armstrong did the same and had his titles taken away. The Aguero moment means nothing if they have nothing to show for it. It was built on cheating and it should be recognised as such, which means they don't get to keep the title.
Completely disagree on the bolded. Taking their titles away would tarnish their name in the most powerful and significant way. It's also just the right thing to do.
Exactly. Who stayed a fan after the takeover and cheered for slave owners can't claim he did nothing wrong. Every single City Fan who exists today is a morally bankrupt human being and deserves to feel punished.
I think I did see a case where that happened not that long ago.
Relegation out of the football league please and a transfer ban for 5 years, please. Time for the PL to take a stand.
Send them to Uganda!
Stripped titles, relegation to the lowest tier, a massive fine, transfer ban, and make them wear dog shite brown strips for the next 20 years.
That's just for having a fan forum as atrocious to the eye as Blue moon is.
That's just for having a fan forum as atrocious to the eye as Blue moon is.
If one of the outcomes is that City have to report players wages correctly (IE their official salary and whatever is being paid under the table) whilst also being barred from overreporting sponsorship deals (or scrapping altogether the ones that are deemed irregular) then they would be extremely unlikely to meet FFP rules and would end up being barred from European competition until they brought those areas back into accordance with the rules.
Those two things wont even be part of the punishment if found guilty, just the minimum expectation going forward and will already see them lose key players that wont want to miss out on CL football
Then irony is it was only last year where all the pundits were lauding how well run City and Liverpool were as football clubs and that Utd need to learn from them to get back to the top in their recruitment and running of the club. Yeah, cheating is a pretty easy way to get to the top.
I'd want them to be stripped of their titles too. Don't even care if the runners up dont get these titles. I'll take it if the yearly list of premier League winners has an asterisk for these seasons saying "no winner since the cheats finished first this season". Strip every title and send them out of the football league.
Blows my mind them comments from them, they must be operating at a 2 billion pound loss since they got bought over. Could be more with parallel accounting they been running.
The must think that money grew on a tree and they are self sustainable and self made.
That's not even getting into why we have debt, which is opposite to the jackpot they hit with owners and not magic money trees and cooked books
They won’t be stripped of their titles but having an asterisk (*) beside each of their title wins with a disclaimer that it was achieved during clear and obvious financial breaches is enough for me. This is what we all think anyways and it would be fitting to have the league’s stamp of authority to make it official. Oh and relegation, relegate the cheating bastards.
I don’t really care if they strip their titles or not, I’ll settle for them getting booted out of the League. 
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Im not really interested in us being awarded retrospective titles If City are found guilty of these offences, if they are guilty then they I believe the only suitable punishment is expulsion from the Premier League.
48!? More like 4 to 8.Denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance.
I think the 48 City fans may not get past stage four of grief...
From the bright lights of the Santiago Bernabéu to a dimly lit corner of the Eco-Power Stadium (Doncaster for those that didn't know).
They should be relegated but probably wont. If they are not relegated the whole thing is a farce.
It is.
Whether those titles are officially voided or not is a lesser issue for me - they are tarnished anyway in the eyes of all football fans apart from the 30,000 core support around South Manchester and Stockport. The key point is to impose a strong enough punishment to stop future cheating, whether by City or another club. As fining them is pointless, the only appropriate measure (like Saracens in rugby) is relegation.
Just come accross this while looking through the comments on BlueMoon
The club itself never actually committed any offence that day so what exactly are the penalties they think should have been imposed on us?BlueMoon said:
This thread is about Bluemoon, here's the thread for those who want to discuss the case itself: https://www.redcafe.net/threads/cit...rged-by-pl-with-numerous-ffp-breaches.464361/
The funny thing is they are 100's of millions of pounds in debt as their owners took out a loan of €600m which they claim was to fund future projects including a big new stadium in New York.
That should never be broadcast again.
It used to when they made it from paper.Blows my mind them comments from them, they must be operating at a 2 billion pound loss since they got bought over. Could be more with parallel accounting they been running.
The must think that money grew on a tree and they are self sustainable and self made.
That's not even getting into why we have debt, which is opposite to the jackpot they hit with owners and not magic money trees and cooked books
Something like a Arab family I thought it was I'm not sure have to ask the investigation people they may shine a light on it.
I want their titles stripped because it's the right thing to do for circumventing the rules and fecking over so many big and small clubs that would've had titles, reached Europe, not relegated without their dirty influence.
Any schadenfreude and/or willingness to see Bluemoon suffer and have their moments taken away is nothing more than a bonus and I really don't care for it as much as my willingness to see justice done. Now whether that actually happens or City gets away with another wrist slap is a different can of worms.
Obviously i'm not saying I don't want it to happen, but I want their reputation soiled more importantly.
They're still treated and talked about like they won everything fair and square, not the cheating bastards they really are.
At the very least, if anything, I'm just loving the cloud hanging over City at the moment. It's glorious. I'm just picturing the thoughts going through Haaland's and Guardiola's heads as they're planning their exit strategies. Nobody wanting to touch City with a bargepole until things are resolved one way or the other. All the giddy fans having to crawl back under their rocks.
Albeit for slightly different reasons, Rangers and Juventus were still not too big for their respective leagues so City should not be any different. Only relegation and/or CL/transfer bans will suffice.
Albeit for slightly different reasons, Rangers and Juventus were still not too big for their respective leagues so City should not be any different. Only relegation and/or CL/transfer bans will suffice.
The y are certainly delusional, coming with a theory in which “the hateful eight” leaded by an alliance of United, Liverpool and Arsenal, have conspired against them due to jealously. Also they believe that Khaldoon guy (whoever he is) is an untouchable messiah that will save them with his amazing super powers.
Oh, and don’t forget their fan fictions of them puttin their “rag mates” in check.
Oh, and don’t forget their fan fictions of them puttin their “rag mates” in check.
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They have passed the denial stage and are now seething with anger.
Stay tuned for more.
They have passed the denial stage and are now seething with anger.
Stay tuned for more.
Those are often the highlight of my day. You couldn't make it up...except that they do haha
Stop ruining the thread, ffs!
The three stooges? Definitely not! It's the three cnuts..Back on topic!
Caption this.Back on topic!
Bald fattie to the right: Hey Ritchie! You dickhead. We've finally been caught.
Ritchie nearly dies...
Guy with mullet in the front: Fecking hell this fart would evacuate an entire museum, thank god these pricks already smell worse..