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The caf's Camus.
He’s actually been playing quite well recently. Thank feck. Because we’re going to need him in the run in.
Surely you are referring to Casemiro if anyone? Laughable post otherwise. Or had you just made your mind up before the game?Anyone saying he ‘wasn’t at fault’ for the second goal, please just watch his positioning as the cross came in. He didn’t attack the ball and wasn’t marking a player, which is why it struck him on the bonce and flew in. He was in no man’s land, blaming all around him. He’s a farce, and has proven this time and time again with meme inducing performances. He’s everything a Captain shouldn’t be.
The Sevilla number 23 was right next to him what on earth are you talking aboutAnyone saying he ‘wasn’t at fault’ for the second goal, please just watch his positioning as the cross came in. He didn’t attack the ball and wasn’t marking a player, which is why it struck him on the bonce and flew in. He was in no man’s land, blaming all around him. He’s a farce, and has proven this time and time again with meme inducing performances. He’s everything a Captain shouldn’t be.
You clearly don’t understand the difference between marking someone as a centre back, and standing next to someone. If you’re happy with watching that, no problem.The Sevilla number 23 was right next to him what on earth are you talking about
No, I meant Maguire. It’s pretty clear. He’s marking no one as usual. I’m reacting to what I saw, not a preconception. That’s not how I think.Surely you are referring to Casemiro if anyone? Laughable post otherwise. Or had you just made your mind up before the game?
5:40 for the goal.
Getting Souness and Pogba vibes.Maguire is watching two attackers as the cross comes over, neither of which win the ball, a third attacker outjumps Casemiro to win the header but it's Maguire's fault. Because obviously.
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Look, no offence mate but what are you talking about? There are two Sevilla players almost right next to Maguire when the cross comes in.No, I meant Maguire. It’s pretty clear. He’s marking no one as usual. I’m reacting to what I saw, not a preconception. That’s not how I think.
"Holding the line" in that scenario is an infinitely more risky strategy there than marking your men in the centre because Casemiro is backpedalling to mark En-Nesyri.If he held a better defensive line like the rest of the defenders maybe these things would not happen as much.
He is always 2 yards further back than any defender, if he holds the line better there then that header just goes wide and even it the other player got on the end of the header, he would be offside.
That about sums it up. Actually, he seems to have improved steadily game by game. He was really solid yesterday - good in his passing, calm and decisive in defensive duels, generally in the right place (except of course for that one time when he was totally in the wrong place, but he can't be blamed for that).He’s actually been alright of late. Unlucky with the goal but yeah I think he should move on.
Lindelof Shaw then if no delay in Shaw return.Am I right In thinking he's gonna miss the Brighton fa cup semi game through suspension? So we could possibly have no varane, Martinez and Maguire for that game? ...
I agree that Maguire didn't mark anyone. However, it's not a fault or mistake. It's him covering a defensive zone: zonal defending. Where the header occur is not advantageous, and it was an athletic freak display to connect to the cross. It was unfortunate that it deflected off Maguire and went goal ward like that. Else that difficult header likely wouldn't end up a goal threat.Anyone saying he ‘wasn’t at fault’ for the second goal, please just watch his positioning as the cross came in. He didn’t attack the ball and wasn’t marking a player, which is why it struck him on the bonce and flew in. He was in no man’s land, blaming all around him. He’s a farce, and has proven this time and time again with meme inducing performances. He’s everything a Captain shouldn’t be.
No worries and no offence taken. You do appear steadfast and slightly blinkered in your categoric defence of Harry, against both what I and others have highlighted here, and I can’t agree that it’s just bad luck. It isn’t. In my opinion, which is the basis of a forum, he was yet again positioned incorrectly. It was no surprise to me when it happened. Maybe there is an element in the fact I have lost all confidence and patience in Maguire as a player first, and captain second.Look, no offence mate but what are you talking about? There are two Sevilla players almost right next to Maguire when the cross comes in.
Unless you can find me a centre back who is about nine feet tall, there's absolutely nothing he could be expected to do about that cross unless he just vacates those players in more dangerous areas to go chasing after En-Nesyri, who is already being marked.
The goal is just bad luck. There are plenty of reasonable criticisms that can be levied at Maguire without reaching this far to blame him for stuff.
The old bugs bunny baseball sketch where he can play all the positions is what we are going for here for MaguireMaguire is watching two attackers as the cross comes over, neither of which win the ball, a third attacker outjumps Casemiro to win the header but it's Maguire's fault. Because obviously.
There were two players marking that Sevilla guy already. You could probably complain about the size of his head was at fault that made a deflected goal, but he's positionally correct.Anyone saying he ‘wasn’t at fault’ for the second goal, please just watch his positioning as the cross came in. He didn’t attack the ball and wasn’t marking a player, which is why it struck him on the bonce and flew in. He was in no man’s land, blaming all around him. He’s a farce, and has proven this time and time again with meme inducing performances. He’s everything a Captain shouldn’t be.
He wasn’t, as usual he was two yards behind the line and out of position as has been mentioned. But it’s getting incredibly tedious making this point. So if you believe he was where he should be, no problem.There were two players marking that Sevilla guy already. You could probably complain about the size of his head was at fault that made a deflected goal, but he's positionally correct.
He was marking two Sevilla players. The cross came in behind him, how was he supposed to attack it? You are of course entitled to your opinion, but it really sounds like you just have it in for him.Anyone saying he ‘wasn’t at fault’ for the second goal, please just watch his positioning as the cross came in. He didn’t attack the ball and wasn’t marking a player, which is why it struck him on the bonce and flew in. He was in no man’s land, blaming all around him. He’s a farce, and has proven this time and time again with meme inducing performances. He’s everything a Captain shouldn’t be.
The agenda is real. In his last 8 starts we have won all 8 games and only conceded 3 goals yet it will tough to find people who will give him a higher score than a 5Good cameo from Maguire and was not to blame for the own goal. An average score of 4.4 on this forum is laughable.
We've won the last 8 games that Harry has started and only allowed 3 goals, but don't let the facts distract you from your agendaThe universe simply doesn't allow that you win a match when captain Harry plays.
He's a meme.
An unlucky charm.
Since when does lack of pace have anything to do with a cross into the 18 yard box? I swear some people just look for reasons to blame Maguire...He always drops about 5 yards too deep on crosses to make up for his lack of speed and recovering. Plays people onside for fun.
Why has he been relegated to reserve all season? And why did we go out and clearly buy two first choice starting centre backs in the first place?? The memory of some on here is simply staggering. Talk about agendas for sure.We've won the last 8 games that Harry has started and only allowed 3 goals, but don't let the facts distract you from your agenda
Did I ever say that he should be our starting centre half when everyone is healthy? Varane and Martinez are clearly our top centre half pairing. All I pointed out is that with Maguire's starts since the world cup, we are 8-0-0 with only 3 goals against. But I get it...that doesn't suit your agenda.Why has he been relegated to reserve all season? And why did we go out and clearly buy two first choice starting centre backs in the first place?? The memory of some on here is simply staggering. Talk about agendas for sure.
Well we are stuck with him for the rest of the season now, so this thread will bear fruit one way or the other. I just hope we can continue this run of outstanding form with Harry leading the line. We need it.
Since when does lack of pace have anything to do with a cross into the 18 yard box? I swear some people just look for reasons
The agenda is so obvious.Is that your take on tonight because it’s wrong. Apart from the own goal which was completely random, he didn’t put a foot wrong
He absolutely was covering two players. Not outright marking either of them, but covering the position that both were moving into. The only way he could possibly have been in a position to win the cross that did come in would have been to leave those other two players completely open. In which case he would have been absolutely blamed (and rightfully so) if the cross had gone to one of them.He wasn’t, as usual he was two yards behind the line and out of position as has been mentioned. But it’s getting incredibly tedious making this point. So if you believe he was where he should be, no problem.