Brilliant post. I'd say we would need to replace the entire right hand side if we ever wanted to challenge, which is why ETH probably wanted Frimpong.
Erik ten Hag - Manchester United manager
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
We have not had a proper striker for too long. If you take Haaland out of City, they would also have a big problem. Under Fergie, we had 2-3 top strikers at once. It is needed!
City scored 99 goals in the league the season before they had Haaland and their top scorer was a midfielder.
Disgusting and completely unnecessary comment. Hope you get a warning point for that at the very least.
Im only saying what the majority of people think. Get over yourself.
No you're not.
Are we allowed to discuss this again?
How do you know? Everyone I've spoken about it to has agreed with me. To accuse him then to try and pull it back in the first place shows that something is lacking.
You didn't tell me you'd done such scientific studies into this
.I'm sure you and the Tate brothers had a really good debate over it.
I could say the same to you arguing the other side. Its a forum. We all have different opinions otherwise it wouldnt be. Lets leave it at that.You didn't tell me you'd done such scientific studies into this
I'm sure you and the Tate brothers had a really good debate over it.
It's just an opinion. Why should he get a warning for calling someone stupid?
Try doing that and see what happens.
And not all opinions are equal. What a profoundly stupid thing to even suggest.
Because the opinion shows a complete lack of awareness of abuse and abuse victims.
Do people honestly think we will get this rumoured TV interview with him
I kinda start to see why this topic was not allowed to be discussed on the CAF.
“Why don’t abuse victims just leave the abuser? It’s so simple!”
Woah. As if you’ve just solved an issue that affects millions of people so so easily. Why has no one ever thought of that?
I wish I was as half as intelligent, empathetic and insightful as you.
Errm no, you aren't.
Get the F out of here.
That time is in the past, big clubs can’t afford 2/3 top strikers anymore because of ffp ( unless they are cheats like PSG and 115 Charges FC).
Tactics have changed too in favour of goal scoring wingers that come inside (Salah, Rashford) instead of two striker systems.
What we should go for is potential (Hojlund) or a one/two year stopgap, (Taremi), otherwise we can’t upgrade other positions in the squad.
If we had gotten Kane for 120 million, there would be no Onana & Mount. His salary and transfer fees would swallow up three good reinforcements we need.
Nope
Yep we couldn't have done both
I love the direction we’re heading under him but I get annoyed every time I see Bruno out wide. He’s a goals/assists machine in the 10, and his carelessness with his passing is basically acceptable for the return we get. Out wide he’s too far from the goal to get enough of the good stuff, so I just don’t get it.
can anyone who actually understands football enlighten me?
can anyone who actually understands football enlighten me?
This one is baffling to me too. Most of all when we were playing Fernandes on the wing for the benefit of playing fecking Weghorst at #10.
The only explanation I can come up with as for why we keep doing it is that it worked once in a big game (vs Barca in the Nou Camp) so Ten Hag is convinced it must be able to work on some level in less testing circumstances. But really, beyond Bruno being able to cross the ball (when we usually have nobody to attack it anyway), I can't grasp the theory on how it even might work consistently otherwise.
Yes please. I did notice Bruno still pops up in the box even when playing on the wing, so I am not freaking out when he plays there.
Fair to say he's been backed very well.
Pressure on now to deliver, which I don't doubt he will!
Pressure on now to deliver, which I don't doubt he will!
He's not wrong.
glad to see the club backing Erik for the players he wants
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We’ve bought players from Inter Milan, Atalanta and potentially Fiorentina if Amrabat is correct.
This is, of course, off topic but your position is far, far too simplistic.
From what I know, the woman in question was barely of legal age when this incident occured and she hardly seems to have a family who are willing to push this accusation. Rather, it seems the exact opposite.
Basically, them being back together is not the gotcha you seem to think it is. Frankly, your position about as mature as a teengager's or a early 20s at best.
Said months ago been impressed but too early to judge as seen other managers post Ferguson do well in there first seasons and then flop and that this window would be a good indicator of how his future could progress here.
Thoght the first window seemed a tad rushed "I want Timber, Antony and two CM"....reckon he wanted one or two more signings. But we missed out on Timber and ended up paying on all three of our major signings as good as two were last season and ended up in the free transfer market as short.
Said before this window that ideally we need 7 signings and at least 10 players out. Well we are about half way there (ith Hoijlund about to sign) so interesting to see how the rest of the window plays out.
I actuallly have changed to six as thought we needed competition for Bissaka as maybe not good enough, now I dont. But we do need a second striker, second keeper and second centre back in my opinion and to do that we do need to riase money, Elanga is the only one of any value to go so far....there are at least 5 to move on who hold value.
What I have liked in the first full window settled in moving to a new season with Ten Hag, is he seems to have a clear vision of what he wants from his team and how he wants them to play and he is making signings to fit into that system, other managers failed to do that.
We all have our personal choice in the market, so personally I am not delighted by any of the signings so far, but I am not dissapointed either like I have been with many signings we have made in the past. That is probably overly critical this window though, personally was time for DeGea to go and I really dotn see a single keeper around and available I am super confident will fill the shoes to be a quality number one mentally and makign saves.....but he hugely improves the flow of our football and confidence at the back in that regard. Mount was a big surprise, think he is a good player, but I am still not sure how well he will work as a number 8. Hoijlund I simply havent seen bar 20mins for Denmark, but from youtube and what I have read and the simple fact we havent had a good striker uner the age of 30 and fit for a long time.....I am excited about him and how he could add so much to the play of our wide players with a genuine striker to feed.
But if Greenwood doesnt come back this season, still concerned about one striker. Not concerned about no dm if we dont sign Arambat tbh as always thought Mainoo could come through as the back up this season.....My biggest concern player wise is at centre back. Luke shaw can play the left but it takes away from us at left back as Malacia did ok the first few months but seemed to fade later on and Varanes injuries....just dont have the faith in Lindelof over 20games or so to continue our momentum, nor do I have any faith in Maguire.....really want to see us sign a promisin gyoung centre back to compete with Varane, as Lindelof isnt that guy to me
Thoght the first window seemed a tad rushed "I want Timber, Antony and two CM"....reckon he wanted one or two more signings. But we missed out on Timber and ended up paying on all three of our major signings as good as two were last season and ended up in the free transfer market as short.
Said before this window that ideally we need 7 signings and at least 10 players out. Well we are about half way there (ith Hoijlund about to sign) so interesting to see how the rest of the window plays out.
I actuallly have changed to six as thought we needed competition for Bissaka as maybe not good enough, now I dont. But we do need a second striker, second keeper and second centre back in my opinion and to do that we do need to riase money, Elanga is the only one of any value to go so far....there are at least 5 to move on who hold value.
What I have liked in the first full window settled in moving to a new season with Ten Hag, is he seems to have a clear vision of what he wants from his team and how he wants them to play and he is making signings to fit into that system, other managers failed to do that.
We all have our personal choice in the market, so personally I am not delighted by any of the signings so far, but I am not dissapointed either like I have been with many signings we have made in the past. That is probably overly critical this window though, personally was time for DeGea to go and I really dotn see a single keeper around and available I am super confident will fill the shoes to be a quality number one mentally and makign saves.....but he hugely improves the flow of our football and confidence at the back in that regard. Mount was a big surprise, think he is a good player, but I am still not sure how well he will work as a number 8. Hoijlund I simply havent seen bar 20mins for Denmark, but from youtube and what I have read and the simple fact we havent had a good striker uner the age of 30 and fit for a long time.....I am excited about him and how he could add so much to the play of our wide players with a genuine striker to feed.
But if Greenwood doesnt come back this season, still concerned about one striker. Not concerned about no dm if we dont sign Arambat tbh as always thought Mainoo could come through as the back up this season.....My biggest concern player wise is at centre back. Luke shaw can play the left but it takes away from us at left back as Malacia did ok the first few months but seemed to fade later on and Varanes injuries....just dont have the faith in Lindelof over 20games or so to continue our momentum, nor do I have any faith in Maguire.....really want to see us sign a promisin gyoung centre back to compete with Varane, as Lindelof isnt that guy to me
wow a keyboard warrior. You go girl!
I've always suspected that his weakness was his inability to transform our offensive play last season. However, it is possible that this is due to the fact that we did not have a decent striker previous season. But my assessment was based in part on how he signed WW and how he used him later on when he recognized how bad WW was in front of the goal and how useless our wing plays were despite having some actual wingers but putting Bruno on the right, and so on. He now has the striker he wants, and the team is strengthened by Mount, whose statistics indicate that he is a capable attacking player. We'll see how the team will perform up front this season.
He has certainly been backed.
Big fan of his, but he's also got to deliver this season. We need to keep progressing.
I would be disappointed come winter break time if we're nowhere near the top.
Big fan of his, but he's also got to deliver this season. We need to keep progressing.
I would be disappointed come winter break time if we're nowhere near the top.
Think he needs another body in the deep midfield area. That would be my excuse for him to some extend if some shit happens this season.
That was before Ajax nailed Juventus isn’t it?
He is backed, I think his target is to stay in top 4. I don't think we are ready to compete against City unless magically Hoijund becomes a 30 goals striker, Antony and Mount start scoring regularly which I doubt will happens. If this game gels then I believe next season is where we start to challenge.
I don’t think we are good enough to start this season and tell everyone we are going to challenge City from the off -
but at the same time I don’t think it’s impossible that it actually happens.
We were the 3rd best team last year whilst being quite close to Arsenal at different points in the season whilst also getting to 2 finals aswell.
Arsenal were not that great last season & just made a statement of being back near the top & I feel like we could do the same aswell.
I personally feel that Klopp is world class but possibly not a long term manager type of person, Chelsea should get better under poch but I’m not sure if it happens under one season & their squad seems like it has lots of cracks and improvements to be made. Spurs have a good manager aswell but doubt they will be challenging. I also think Pep will take things a bit easier this year too because he just won a treble but that’s obviously just a personality guess.
I think City, Arsenal & United should challenge this year with Liverpool, Chelsea, Spurs, Newcastle, Aston Villa and maybe Brighton fighting for the top 4.
Obviously football doesn’t work that easily but I’m not completely saying we are not going to be part of it either.
Don’t even start me on how I feel about a CL under Ten Hag.
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