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He's a proper United fan, clearly offers more insight than this place.Pilib de brown got his name because he kept browning his pants
Yeah the Mercedes F1 team is now equally owned by three parties: Toto Wolff (33%), Mercedes' parent company Daimler AG (33%), and INEOS (33%).And INEOS are a partner of Mercedes F1, right?
Propah top red? Sign me up.He's a proper United fan, clearly offers more insight than this place.
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You ruined a funny joke you, get out of my offive.He's a proper United fan, clearly offers more insight than this place.
You ruined a funny joke you, get out of my offive.
…and that’s just the tip of the iceberg. The club is decaying from the inside and the long term future does seem bleak unless we get new owners and the right new owners plus major surgery.The club is in a downward spiral, poor transfer decisions not covering for centre backs, buying a goalkeeper who will miss a number of games again inadequate cover. Unhappy players on wages that they do not deserve.
If there are call options to buy them out in 2025 or 2026 (or at some other point in the future) then it's still a good outcome.Reckon Sir Jim gets it. Glazers will stay on with voting rights. The wheel of hell forever turns slowly
Be staggered if either up their offers as both probably think they have already offered more than enough for the club.The never ending nightmare. It’s clear at this point the Glazers are happy to hold firm and not do anything until the bidders either up their offer or pull out, until then we’ll be stuck in limbo.
It feels like he needs to come in and save us,,, like Superman.Has Van Gaal’s buddy chipped in since his October proclamation?
You having a moan for the sake of it. Bit like the guy moaning he doesn't like being upside down having already gone into the ditch. Poor transfer for centrebacks ? was scuppered by De Gea moving and Maguire etc not moving, meant no CB. As for missing games, should blank ban on all purchases of African players ? There wasn't a fan worth his salt who would have been unhappy signing him after the CL final display. Moaning about AFcon, he could easily be injured for 7 games and being at United increases the chances of this happening too.The club is in a downward spiral, poor transfer decisions not covering for centre backs, buying a goalkeeper who will miss a number of games again inadequate cover. Unhappy players on wages that they do not deserve.
I couldn't even bother watching anymore if that nonsense happens, it ain't worth the annoyance.Reckon Sir Jim gets it. Glazers will stay on with voting rights. The wheel of hell forever turns slowly
No. He'll wait until a bit nearer the time before writing a piece saying it has been delayed to the new year.Has Van Gaal’s buddy chipped in since his October proclamation?
You realise that we just signed record deals in the past few months for the kit and the logo on the chest --- despite poor on-field performance?I would advise all people to be patient in this game. Trajectory of a club with Glazers staying is clearly downward and relative strength of the brand is decreasing. We will know more about the fate of Manchester United in the incoming months or couple of years.
Glazers are somewhat backed into a corner. United is a ticking time bomb. This club will completely fall of the wheels and reach eventual relegation/bankruptcy/administration with Glazers and their incompetence/business model or it will be repaired and start to rise again.
They can't really borrow any more money, they don't have the cash or willingness to invest into the club themselves. Old Trafford and Carrington need urgent, serious investment, overall debt is getting into unsustainable, enourmous amount. We are reaching the end game. Either Titanic-like collapse and tragedy of an institution like Manchester United was/is or some form of a rebirth, redefinition.
No matter how much you love this club, don't let these grotesque, pathologically greedy goblins/orcs ruin your mood and provide you with stress for much longer. Don't be so emotionally invested(for now, in the Glazer Apocalypse era) in the club. There are other, far more important things in life than football. Don't even visit/open this thread often, it's mostly futile(gives you disappointment and false hope most of the time) and it gets addictive, I know.
Be patient, and observe the chaos which will unfold, at least relatively soon. Cheers.
I agree. Time is not on their side.I would advise all people to be patient in this game. Trajectory of a club with Glazers staying is clearly downward and relative strength of the brand is decreasing. We will know more about the fate of Manchester United in the incoming months or couple of years.
Glazers are somewhat backed into a corner. United is a ticking time bomb. This club will completely fall of the wheels and reach eventual relegation/bankruptcy/administration with Glazers and their incompetence/business model or it will be repaired and start to rise again.
They can't really borrow any more money, they don't have the cash or willingness to invest into the club themselves. Old Trafford and Carrington need urgent, serious investment, overall debt is getting into unsustainable, enourmous amount. We are reaching the end game. Either Titanic-like collapse and tragedy of an institution like Manchester United was/is or some form of a rebirth, redefinition.
No matter how much you love this club, don't let these grotesque, pathologically greedy goblins/orcs ruin your mood and provide you with stress for much longer. Don't be so emotionally invested(for now, in the Glazer Apocalypse era) in the club. There are other, far more important things in life than football. Don't even visit/open this thread often, it's mostly futile(gives you disappointment and false hope most of the time) and it gets addictive, I know.
Be patient, and observe the chaos which will unfold, at least relatively soon. Cheers.
I agree. Time is not on their side.
In the meantime, fellow reds, I urge you all to not give the leeches any of your money.
If only their mum had done the same.Time to just embrace the suck!
Or... the Glazers actually know what they're doing, and aren't making decisions based on a whim. The best we can do is guess what their intentions are, and I'm surprised so many people are still thinking they are desperate and in trouble.I would advise all people to be patient in this game. Trajectory of a club with Glazers staying is clearly downward and relative strength of the brand is decreasing. We will know more about the fate of Manchester United in the incoming months or couple of years.
Glazers are somewhat backed into a corner. United is a ticking time bomb. This club will completely fall of the wheels and reach eventual relegation/bankruptcy/administration with Glazers and their incompetence/business model or it will be repaired and start to rise again.
They can't really borrow any more money, they don't have the cash or willingness to invest into the club themselves. Old Trafford and Carrington need urgent, serious investment, overall debt is getting into unsustainable, enourmous amount. We are reaching the end game. Either Titanic-like collapse and tragedy of an institution like Manchester United was/is or some form of a rebirth, redefinition.
No matter how much you love this club, don't let these grotesque, pathologically greedy goblins/orcs ruin your mood and provide you with stress for much longer. Don't be so emotionally invested(for now, in the Glazer Apocalypse era) in the club. There are other, far more important things in life than football. Don't even visit/open this thread often, it's mostly futile(gives you disappointment and false hope most of the time) and it gets addictive, I know.
Be patient, and observe the chaos which will unfold, at least relatively soon. Cheers.
If some of the briefings are correct that they think they can get much more in a couple of years they are just plain stupid.Or... the Glazers actually know what they're doing, and aren't making decisions based on a whim. The best we can do is guess what their intentions are, and I'm surprised so many people are still thinking they are desperate and in trouble.
It was his greed that ultimately caused the 'Coolmore mafia' to sell their shares to the parastes dad.I've never really bought into that. Sure he is the reason the last owners sold but we easily could have ended up with better owners as well.
It's not SAFs fault that they sold to the Glazers. He had no say in that.
Weren't the Glaziers already part owners and looking to buy the club? From what I read about Mangier and Mcmanus they seem like shitty, vindictive people.It was his greed that ultimately caused the 'Coolmore mafia' to sell their shares to the parastes dad.
Genuinely think the period of our history between 2001 and 2005 would make for a fascinating documentary one day. Some of what was happening behind the scenes at that point massively shaped the club's future.Weren't the Glaziers already part owners and looking to buy the club? From what I read about Mangier and Mcmanus they seem like shitty, vindictive people.
They were. The fact that Magnier and McManus owned only 30% is usually ignored with this story.Weren't the Glaziers already part owners and looking to buy the club? From what I read about Mangier and Mcmanus they seem like shitty, vindictive people.
If only their mum had done the same.
Stockholm SyndromeOh boy I guess we've moved into the acceptance phase of grief it seems with some starting to defend the Glazers.
Yes. The Glazers would've eventually taken over either way. Unfair to put the blame on SAF / Horsegate.Weren't the Glaziers already part owners and looking to buy the club? From what I read about Mangier and Mcmanus they seem like shitty, vindictive people.
It is a tempting narrative to have a go at senior United figures for 'leading to the Glazers', especially for Red Rebels, but it's all stuff and nonsense, a hook for Football365 addictions and those seeking a good yarn.Genuinely think the period of our history between 2001 and 2005 would make for a fascinating documentary one day. Some of what was happening behind the scenes at that point massively shaped the club's future.
Fergie rowing with Mangier and Mcmanus ultimately led to the Glazer's taking over but the path arguably started in 2001. Imagine how different things would have been if Fergie had quit/retired at this point like it was suggested in this random match report from the end of 2000/2001. Not as much success between that 2001 and 2013 but probably no Glazers and the club would be in a much better position.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/1338557.stm
Now that is one hell of an alternate timeline for us to muse on. On the one hand, you would say probably no glazers, but then there's always the chance that we could have ended up with someone worse. I know that's hard to imagine, but I am sure that there are just as bad/worse owners out there, they've just not managed to get their hands on a club like ours. But there is also every chance we could have had a better owner because it's hard to be worse than the Glazers have been.Genuinely think the period of our history between 2001 and 2005 would make for a fascinating documentary one day. Some of what was happening behind the scenes at that point massively shaped the club's future.
Fergie rowing with Mangier and Mcmanus ultimately led to the Glazer's taking over but the path arguably started in 2001. Imagine how different things would have been if Fergie had quit/retired at this point like it was suggested in this random match report from the end of 2000/2001. Not as much success between that 2001 and 2013 but probably no Glazers and the club would be in a much better position.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/1338557.stm
I think leeches dad had 29% and needed the CM shares as they had about the same percent, to buy the club, If I remember correctly. Look up Rock of Gibralta story. Fergie came across as a greedy bastard and this led to the rift which eventually led to the sale.Weren't the Glaziers already part owners and looking to buy the club? From what I read about Mangier and Mcmanus they seem like shitty, vindictive people.
That’s some pretty damning statistics there. Difficult to argue that the Glazers haven’t spent money, but the way it’s been done, bloody hell.https://www.espn.co.uk/football/story/_/id/38396650/manchester-united-most-expensive-squad-world
You have seen this, right?
Rather depressing. I do feel for ETH, cleaning up this 'disarray' as ESPN described it..