You seem very wedded to the idea that the position Labour is taking now, is immutable and forever. I expect things to evolve when Labour is in power, albeit within limits, because it will have to, although I don't expect a referendum or anything. The difference is Labour is not ideologically opposed to the EU in the same way as the Tories, or, outside of not re-opening old wounds, not specifically trying to woo Brexit voters. That does open up some space, I believe.
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Has Ten Hag been sacked yet? We're not sure and we hope not, but it's looking more likely as the days pass.
Who should replace him and why is it taking so long to make a decision?
She's an habitual liar and nothing but trouble. Why do people suddenly believe her because she's joined Labour?
If voters can swing wildly in five years from one party to another , they can just as easily swing back.
The cream rises to the top.
Inevitably there has to be a change but it won't come during the course of Starmer leading the party. A referendum won't happen in any near future. The Uk have got a lot of changing to do before they get close to being conisidered eligible to rejoin. But until the UK actually understand what they've voted for, especially the politicians , especially including a Labour leader then they are so far away and drifting further.
Because what matters is what she's told Labour. If she says she is going to stand down, and that was a condition of her joining, then if she changes her mind, she can be expelled. I don't see the problem here.
Yes, technically they can but usually there are reasons why that sort of thing happens, and I am not sure your argument supports the type of swing you are talking about.
Do we know that was a condition? Don't see the point of her moving across from her point of view.
The reasons are that Starmer has said he'll make Brexit work and stop the boats to attract Tory and Brexit voters. When he obviously doesn't - you can guess what might happen.
Well sour cream is hugely popular in the US so that sort of makes sense
I was thinking curdled.Well sour cream is hugely popular in the US so that sort of makes sense
Paul that cannot be true, you mention it all the time and have never let it drop!
Starmer's crew have got those private water company donations and non-jobs after they leave the Commons to think about.
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The no-tax bit is egregious.
These are not the same things.
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This is how everyone should treat GB News.
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To be fair, that’s a bit daft.
All parties education policy is ‘Educate children’. It’s how the policy is enacted that differentiates political parties.
The way to stop small boat crossings is quite clearly to ‘Stop the gangs’.
What Starmer sure as feck can’t say right now is ‘We will open legal routes’. He can ONLY discuss how to fix the Tory chaos. It’s how he’ll get elected.
I have zero doubts that in his first term we will once again have a kinder, functioning asylum system. One that is boring and doesn’t dominate the day to day news agenda.
The last frame is that fecking cnut smirking, so fitting.
All absolutely correct.
He's smirking because he absolutely doesn't give a shit.
Spot on. This country needs a change to sort out all these problems caused by the Conservatives and their policies.
How about more austerity but this time it's delivered by the Labour party? That'll fix it.
Tory Bruce doing her best to get her to be quiet at the end. She's the reason I refuse to watch QT.
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Imagine blaming the Labour Party before they’ve even got into power for the Tory failure of the last 14 years. That’s quite something. Tell you what, let’s just protest from the sidelines and not get into power. That’ll solve it.
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Can we parachute her in as Labour leader before the GE?
And now this formerly Tory supporting company is saying 'we think Labour can be trusted with the economy' is exactly what Labour were going for.
Some of the gotcha's over this are ridiculous.
Oh yeahhh…the cream of the crop, rises to the top!
Basically, the people who've rigged the economy to ensure the rich stay rich while schools, hospitals and public services crumble are now confident that Labour will not challenge the status quo. Once again, anything approaching a fair taxation system is now considered fantasy politics and everyone can get back to bootlicking and blaming their problems on immigrants.
Yes, super astute. They absolutely should reject endorsements from business. It's always worked so well for them.
Yeah but it's the red team so it's good.
That's feckin brilliant.Super astute, that's not at all what I said.
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Yeah and about that 'problem'...
https://www.theguardian.com/busines...ing-tycoon-breaks-into-sunday-times-rich-list
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It was difficult to pick out what you were getting at. Apologies.
Corrected.This link does not work for me