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It's clear that he's defensive game has improved, clearly he's playing to instructions.
This. I just think back to Monday's half time sub and think to myself we'd be winning the F.A. Cup this season if it never happened, we were well on top at the end of the first half.Made both the most tackles and the most interceptions in the team, made the most passes and had the second highest pass completion %. He's involved in so much even when he's not doing much creatively. Still think van Gaal's biggest balls-up so far is taking so long to recognise Herrera's importance in this team.
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Those are good numbers. Still amazed he was subbed against Arsenal.This. I just think back to Monday's half time sub and think to myself we'd be winning the F.A. Cup this season if it never happened, we were well on top at the end of the first half.
Favourite Herrera moment today, the slide tackle and then scooped pass off the floor to Mata. Composure.
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You don't think Herrera has improved as the season's gone on? I do. Still gets out of position occasionally but generally much more aware of his defensive chores than he was when he started. Hence he's racking up interceptions now, as well as tackles.Made both the most tackles and the most interceptions in the team, made the most passes and had the second highest pass completion %. He's involved in so much even when he's not doing much creatively. Still think van Gaal's biggest balls-up so far is taking so long to recognise Herrera's importance in this team.
This. I wasn't a fan of Herrera before these last few games. He used to be indiscipline; all action and getting stuck in, just like seeing the young Gerrard in CM.You don't think Herrera has improved as the season's gone on? I do. Still gets out of position occasionally but generally much more aware of his defensive chores than he was when he started. Hence he's racking up interceptions now, as well as tackles.
Loved that. Great tackle it was too. Didn't expect that pass to follow. Supreme.Favourite Herrera moment today, the slide tackle and then scooped pass off the floor to Mata. Composure.
I very much agree with you. Playing Rooney out of position to try and squeeze Falcao and Van Persie in would be the other big one but you can at least understand why you'd try to do that. I think Herrera has been extremely good in his appearances for his first season in English football. Offers us so much in the middle and makes us play better as a team.Made both the most tackles and the most interceptions in the team, made the most passes and had the second highest pass completion %. He's involved in so much even when he's not doing much creatively. Still think van Gaal's biggest balls-up so far is taking so long to recognise Herrera's importance in this team.
He was making plenty of tackles at the start of the season before he was droppedIt's clear that he's defensive game has improved, clearly he's playing to instructions.
I remember reading an interview with Herrera where he mentions that long passing is something he needs to work on.Now he has improved his defensive game, he looks like a proper all-round midfielder. Only thing that is lacking is long passing. Not sure he can’t do it or it isn’t part of the philosophy.
He’s also very reliable player, always delivers. I reckon he’s one of our most important players and still improving.
For a CM there's a hell of a lot more to defending than making tackles.He was making plenty of tackles at the start of the season before he was dropped
Yep agree with that.Made both the most tackles and the most interceptions in the team, made the most passes and had the second highest pass completion %. He's involved in so much even when he's not doing much creatively. Still think van Gaal's biggest balls-up so far is taking so long to recognise Herrera's importance in this team.
As far as I'm concerned he's basically been the same player all season, and for some reason it just took Van Gaal six months to get comfortable with the idea of him as a regular starter. I don't care though - he's a starter now, and that's what matters.He's always been good defensively. I really can't see why he hasn't been playing all season.
Brilliant footwork
Agreed. It's not like he's changed his game drastically to start being played in the side. It was evident very early on that he was going to be a good player for us and one of our best midfielders. I still not convinced LvG is fully on board yet. Once Shaw or Rojo are back I'd imagine Blind goes back to midfield. Then LvG has to make some decisions. At the moment I would drop Blind or Fellaini to keep Herrera in the side. He really is a fantastic player. Some people have to remember this is his first season in the EPL. So yes there is a learning curve but he has come on far better than any of our other first season players bar maybe Blind.As far as I'm concerned he's basically been the same player all season, and for some reason it just took Van Gaal six months to get comfortable with the idea of him as a regular starter. I don't care though - he's a starter now, and that's what matters.
I love how he's able to go into a tackle knowing he won't be first to the ball, but still be the one to win it. He reads the opponent's intentions and positions himself to make the block, rather than trying in vain to get to the ball first. He's also got the knack of sliding in such a way that he can be back on his feet instantly to gather up the loose ball.
Yep. I'm a big fan of Blind but he has to be in competition with Carrick, not with Herrera. If LVG wants Carrick in the starting XI then it's clearly Blind who has to make way (either to the bench or into LB like today.)Agreed. It's not like he's changed his game drastically to start being played in the side. It was evident very early on that he was going to be a good player for us and one of our best midfielders. I still not convinced LvG is fully on board yet. Once Shaw or Rojo are back I'd imagine Blind goes back to midfield. Then LvG has to make some decisions. At the moment I would drop Blind or Fellaini to keep Herrera in the side. He really is a fantastic player. Some people have to remember this is his first season in the EPL. So yes there is a learning curve but he has come on far better than any of our other first season players bar maybe Blind.
Favourite Herrera moment today, the slide tackle and then scooped pass off the floor to Mata. Composure.
He can keep us happy with highlight videos all season. He is a one man highlight reel.
I think he has tweaked his game. He definitely has more discipline about him.So one game we're all complaining that Van Gaal has changed his game, the next we're saying he's always played this way. Make your mind up, redcafe.
Agreed. Better player for it too.I think he has tweaked his game. He definitely has more discipline about him.
I do think he's improved since the beginning of the season. He's more positionally disciplined as you say and he seems to be pushed off the ball a lot less now, and generally he seems more settled, but I think he's generally been one of our best players in almost every game he's played right from the start.You don't think Herrera has improved as the season's gone on? I do. Still gets out of position occasionally but generally much more aware of his defensive chores than he was when he started. Hence he's racking up interceptions now, as well as tackles.
I think he played a riskier game earlier on as part of the diamond, which made us fluid but a bit less solid, and also affected his defensive stats (obviously) and his edge in attack positively. I still maintain that he was still, on balance, our best CM back then, just playing a different role.So one game we're all complaining that Van Gaal has changed his game, the next we're saying he's always played this way. Make your mind up, redcafe.
Yup. My thoughts excactly.I do think he's improved since the beginning of the season. He's more positionally disciplined as you say and he seems to be pushed off the ball a lot less now, and generally he seems more settled, but I think he's generally been one of our best players in almost every game he's played right from the start.