Not really defending him rather laughing at the undying fanbois and their predictability.
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Season Average Rating
- Appearances
- 35
- Clean sheets
- 12
- Goals
- 0
- Assists
- 5
- Yellow cards
- 4
I'm pretty sure most of us Nani fanbois agreed that it was time for him to move on. No trouble admitting he's been shite for a few years now. Seems some can't do the same for Valencia.
I'm not here to compare him to Nani. Nani regressed in his own way and is no longer a problem of ours. Couldn't care less about him.
Valencia continues to be a very real problem in this United team.
despite you doing the exact same in the Nani thread.
Hypocrisy, always fun.
And anyway, nobody is trying to claim one is better than the other here, just that both are now shit and have regressed badly, you're the one trying to claim Valencia is still better cause he's still here.
I don't think it's me, rather Ferguson/Moyes/Van Gaal/Giggs.
Yeah, right. Whatever.
Yeah, I am right, thanks.
And you're completely wrong and hypocritical when it comes to the two players, as usual.
Ironically even Valencia's best (POTY) season was statistically worse than Nani's.
2011/12: Appearances Goals Assists
Nani 40 10 15
Valencia 38 6 15
United career:
Nani 230 41 74
Valencia 193 21 46
Valencia did have a few games at RB/RWB but not enough to make up such a huge gap.
TBH, the only time I really liked him was his 1st season 2009/10, when he consistently produced the goods for Rooney- and had actual variety in his crosses. I thought he shouldn't have been picked for Barcelona in the CL Final, and his POTY season was not all that great. IMO
The timeline which I've put means that I think he was never the same player after the injury vs Rangers in early 2010/11, but I know most people consider his 2011/12 season to be very good...I thought he was getting very repetitive even then. I thought Nani had been a level above in the previous 18 months or so and should have been allowed to continue at the position from where he was doing considerable damage- right wing.
Fergie never got anything wrong, ever. Valencia has been starting under LVG because Rafael was returning from injury. Hopefully that's the end of him starting games now. The anti-footballer. Turn back Tony
Got me there. I give up.
The ripe whiff of irony abounds from you Nobby, there are Nani "fanbois" who couldn't see clearly, but you are so clearly a Valencia "fanboi" that you came in here, not to defend him, but just to attack people criticizing him as part of some imaginary Nani fanclub.
For starters I am pretty sure me and Pexbo would have had Nani, Valencia and Young out on their arses this summer, and even Cina who was like Nani's agent/mother stopped defending him ages ago, he merely pointed out the POTY comparison.
For starters I am pretty sure me and Pexbo would have had Nani, Valencia and Young out on their arses this summer, and even Cina who was like Nani's agent/mother stopped defending him ages ago, he merely pointed out the POTY comparison.
Goes without saying which category I would be bundled into but I would have to say Nani's best season at United was better than Valencia's.
They've both been pretty awful for ages but the reason Valencia is still around is because he's good at all the dirty work, even if he's completely forgotten how to be an attacking threat. Nani offers far little when he's also not at his best.
They've both been pretty awful for ages but the reason Valencia is still around is because he's good at all the dirty work, even if he's completely forgotten how to be an attacking threat. Nani offers far little when he's also not at his best.
I honestly though the days of Nani vs Valencia debates are long gone but it seems that i was wrong. atm neither one of them are good enough for this club.
He really is a pathetic excuse of a footballer. I'm sure he is a nice bloke but I actually dislike him he is so bad.
U-Turnio Valencia
so bad that I laughed.Guys, Nobby's clearly on a WUM. Let him be...
Agreed
Everyone had, you just bumped a thread that hadn't been posted in for 10 hours.
I'm at work so a little behind. My bad
hard to imagine nowadys what a forcce he was some seasons ago. He used his speed and power to go past defenders by will. Every defender knew he was going to use his right foot but he was just unstoppable. His crosses where accurat so that Rooney scored a lot of headers that season.
Today he is just frustrating to watch. I wonder if anyone on this planet can get him back to his best, give him the confidence back he needs to perfom. Think his days with us are numbered. Janko seems to be the better Valencia in the near future
Today he is just frustrating to watch. I wonder if anyone on this planet can get him back to his best, give him the confidence back he needs to perfom. Think his days with us are numbered. Janko seems to be the better Valencia in the near future
Tank.
Possibly even a little TOO big?
Man Utd 2:1 West Ham
I thought he did well after coming on. Exactly the type of player we needed to quickly pressure West Ham's players, but it's sad that he's no longer one of the best wingers in the world. This is the exact role he should be limited to as sad as that may seem...
I agree. I found myself surprisingly okay with Valencia coming on, when normally I'd be disappointed. A good player to have in that kind of position as he has bags of pace and energy as well as being generally tidy in possession. A limited role it may be but it is a role at least.
This is the kind of role he should be used for from now on. If we are under the cosh just give him the ball and tell him to run it to the corner flag. He must be the best player in the league at winning corners.
Continues in his quest to create the brand new role of defensive winger. Well done.
Was the correct player to bring on under the circumstances and he did good, well he was like a fish in water in that situation.
Strange to say but I was relieved when he came one. When there is one thing that Tony is good at it's at keeping the ball I feel. Good cameo from him
Who knew that his ability to hit the defender with the ball would come in handy...
This. We should save Fellaini and Valencia for our 2 subs late on in the game. Valencia to smash it into the defender's leg to get the corner and Fellaini for his corner flag ball shielding. Remember his cameo at the corner flag last season where he single-handedly wasted the stoppage time...
The cheer when he smacked it against the defender was funny I agree, did hold onto the ball well. Did get caught out with the ball over the top once or twice. But to do the job he was asked to do today, he did that.
I agree, did hold onto the ball well. Did get caught out with the ball over the top once or twice. But to do the job he was asked to do today, he did that.It's the role that guarantees him 5 pl appearances per season, fair feck to him.
After seeing how much better Rafael was today, he really is not needed at this club. Bring in a specialist right-back to give Rafael some competition and while we're at it bring another top winger in.
At the time, I thought it was a smart sub and it proved a good one by van Gaal. Thought he gave us exactly what we needed. Good on him.
He's ace at taking the ball quickly into the opposition half and then slowing things down almost to half speed. This is absolute torture during the majority of the game, but in a situation like today, in which we wanted to run down the clock and keep the ball away from our goal, it was exactly what we needed.