Barca més que un club.
Bluemoon goes into Meltdown
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City had an identity, a Mancunian identity, a gritty inner city club with a lot of character but now they actively seek to be the poor mans Barcelona, presumably at the owners desire. It isn't something to be admired. I know a few old time City fans that feel alienated by the way the club has gone already. The younger generations and foreign add on fans won't be in touch with that past but I couldn't help but sneer at that away kit last night.
Exactly, where are all the Guardiola/sycophants masquerading as United fans now?
My point here is bad results happen, mistakes happen but it is not a sign that a bad patch means that Guardiola has lost it or is a bad manager etc yet were so quick to condemn our own 7 games in. Feck me right off.
Doesn't mean they will replicate everything exactly. Barcelona took many things from the Dutch school and ultimately the English founded the game, influences are everywhere.
I realize most of you won't want to appreciate anything about your crosstown rivals but I respect their approach more than a club like say PSG that simply threw money at it. City seem to have a plan in place, a blueprint if you will - many of the architects of that are from Barcelona so only natural they bring that with them
Isn't that exactly what they did?
PSG and City are almost identical in their approach! PSG would have gotten Pep if they could have, but Pep's friends happened to be at City.
The difference is, PSG was a bigger, more recognised club when the oil money came.
Moral winners."Better team until the sending off"
I've heard it all now
I respect City for all they have achieved this is a club that has really had the toughest of times and has now risen from the ashes to become a true superpower , yes they have spent a lot of money but lets face it we have broken transfer records on many occasions and have seldom been slow to bring the cheque book out . They have built a fabulous complex that would put most others to shame and have a solid infrastructure which should ensure hey never fall from grace again
BUT .....
in my opinion their Achilles heel could well turn out to be Pep as I believe he is a one trick pony ( though it is a fantastic trick ) he is absolutely set in his ways and beliefs and will not be swayed I used to work for a guy who was always right even when he was wrong pep reminds me of him it's his way or the highway , the clearest sign was his shoddy treatment of hart and replacing him with a goalkeeper who buys in to peps philosophy of we will play from the back even if it doesn't work seeming to prefer a keeper who is better with his feet than he is with his hands ,pure folly in the high paced rough and tumble of the prem believe me last night v Barca won't be the only occasion this keeper will cost them goals .
Lets look at Pep's managerial experience
The Spanish prem has 2 great teams full of superstars and one really good one the rest are pretty poor in terms of week in week out lge performance ( you very rarely see upsets in La liga bottom beating top just doesn't happen hence Barca and Real score 5/ 6 goals on a regular basis ) .
The same can broadly be said of Germany where there is one great team and a couple of good ones and the rest no better than average .
The prem has shock results week in week out ( hence why sky super 6 is so difficult to win ) we know there is every chance that Swansea , West Brom , Stoke , Hull etc etc are always capable of beating United , Arsenal , Chelsea etc etc , the pure football that Pep demands each week just won't cut it in the Prem , don't get me wrong they will be top 4 but if he sticks tight to his possession based game every week they will become unstuck .
Although purists won't agree I believe Jose is a much better option he knows the prem knows what to expect and is prepared to set up his team differently game by game ( and if that means parking the bus on occasion then so be it ! ) .
I honestly believe the premiership will " find Pep out " and think he will be too set in his ways to bend
We will see
BUT .....
in my opinion their Achilles heel could well turn out to be Pep as I believe he is a one trick pony ( though it is a fantastic trick ) he is absolutely set in his ways and beliefs and will not be swayed I used to work for a guy who was always right even when he was wrong pep reminds me of him it's his way or the highway , the clearest sign was his shoddy treatment of hart and replacing him with a goalkeeper who buys in to peps philosophy of we will play from the back even if it doesn't work seeming to prefer a keeper who is better with his feet than he is with his hands ,pure folly in the high paced rough and tumble of the prem believe me last night v Barca won't be the only occasion this keeper will cost them goals .
Lets look at Pep's managerial experience
The Spanish prem has 2 great teams full of superstars and one really good one the rest are pretty poor in terms of week in week out lge performance ( you very rarely see upsets in La liga bottom beating top just doesn't happen hence Barca and Real score 5/ 6 goals on a regular basis ) .
The same can broadly be said of Germany where there is one great team and a couple of good ones and the rest no better than average .
The prem has shock results week in week out ( hence why sky super 6 is so difficult to win ) we know there is every chance that Swansea , West Brom , Stoke , Hull etc etc are always capable of beating United , Arsenal , Chelsea etc etc , the pure football that Pep demands each week just won't cut it in the Prem , don't get me wrong they will be top 4 but if he sticks tight to his possession based game every week they will become unstuck .
Although purists won't agree I believe Jose is a much better option he knows the prem knows what to expect and is prepared to set up his team differently game by game ( and if that means parking the bus on occasion then so be it ! ) .
I honestly believe the premiership will " find Pep out " and think he will be too set in his ways to bend
We will see
What's with all this sensible talk?
Get back to the bitterness please!
Get back to the bitterness please!
Very debatable, they've only existed since the 70s.
Come on guys, 2 pages of discussion. More meltdown please.
"Joke penalty .Mata is going away from goal ,the defender stumbles and accidently falls into Mata. The Ref has a clear view -bent as feck."
Beautiful!!
Beautiful!!
They've had about 300 penalties this season. Let us have one.
Though it was a clear penalty. He steps right on his feel before he falls in to him. It definitely wasn't by accident, not that that even matters.
Though it was a clear penalty. He steps right on his feel before he falls in to him. It definitely wasn't by accident, not that that even matters.
Doesnt surprise me with that place. Otamendi could right hook a striker and break his jaw and they'd claim the striker lifted Otamendi's arm and walked into it. RAWK set the sandard for bitterness, but Bluemoon is way out in front IMO
They've had about 200 penalties because they are constantly on the attack, it was the same with us back in the day. Unfortunately we're hardly ever in the box anymore.
None of those things matter anyway. Those two pens were some of the clearest I've ever seen.
Interesting and well informed post, thanks for that. I do think Pep will inevitably have to adapt his ways, as stubborn as he is. I can't see him getting found out as you say. He knows too much about football in every way and if he has to change through force I think he will. It'll be interesting to see who he buys to take care of the mess they have at the back. That's where they're so weak and no system or tactics can cover for hapless defending.
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I hooe Bravo dies so he can't play again"
Stay classy.
I hooe Bravo dies so he can't play again"
Stay classy.
'gets dropped' might have done
They worked out which was the most successful club in world football and then offered them more money to move. Amazing strategy
You should have seen them trying to pass Aguero elbowing incident as Winston Reid putting his face into Aguero's elbow.
Those lots are completely mental
Made up work mates now..
Easy for me to say here in hindsight, but I did say to a few of my friends (both reds and blues) and probably somewhere on this board that we'd learn a lot more when they actually drop points. So far, it seems like they can't bounce back. Teams have shown them too much respect, but as soon as a couple of teams pressed them high up (Celtic and Spurs) they leaked a fair few goals and have continued on the wobble.
Southampton next who while not setting the world alight were seven unbeaten before losing 1-0 away at Inter. If City don't win, surely this is more of a 'crisis' than what we had with the three losses on the spin? Doubt it'll get much coverage in the media, though.
Also, if they did fail to beat Southampton, they come to Old Trafford again where I actually think we'll have a stronger side out if we both rest players (thinking that side that played Fenerbahce will face City). Could very easily be six without a win, with Pep yet to face the difficult winter period.
Despite me saying all of this, I still think City are favourites for the title (just).
Amazing that Brendan Rogers at Celtic broke Pep
What a ditty bastard spitting in his own beer.
Some of their fans are calling out for Pep's head now. Shocking.
This is because Pep banned wi-fi.
I'm not so sure about it being all that debatable, I think he was right.
Shit is starting to hit the fans
Some half-time BM thoughts:
They’re turning on their Lord and Saviour Sergio Aguero:
Bring back Pellegrini!
Post match:
They’re turning on their Lord and Saviour Sergio Aguero:
#realism
Some positivity:
Man Utd 1:0 Man City (League Cup)
Bluemoon has crashed
Okay back online now.
Some reactions - pretty much what you'd expect, really:
Some reactions - pretty much what you'd expect, really:
Not too many happy with Pep right now.
Can't even laugh at these posts... They seem insightful (some of them), where's the fun in that?
Won't say they're turning but a fair few are not happy with him.
Just shows how cut throat football is. Top of the league.
Just how did Dean help us , thought he was pretty fair all match.
Leroy Sane
He was absolutely awful in fairness. I have seen him play a few times now and have seen nothing of note from him whatsoever.