Exactly. How many times now has he been as bad as the rest but still won the game for us? Stupid to take him off.
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Poor game by brunos standard.. I’d like to see VDB given a run playing with Bruno - play it simple pass and move and control the midfield.
Him and Pogba can't play together, it breaks our shape completely. It's one or another.
We were outplayed by Arsenal today, I don't think he was that bad.
We were outplayed by Arsenal today, I don't think he was that bad.
He's been dreadful for a while now, but one is not allowed to criticize him.
Been thinking similar for a while. Different styles, but their flaws bring too much risk to play at the same time unless Pogba's having a blinder.
Really sloppy with the ball today.
He cant play CAM in a diamond. He is running all over the place and not maintaining the shape of a diamond.
He needs to play as a CM and let VDB decide when to keep shape or move.
Pogba showed today that attacking from CM is no different to playing from AM. I saw Pogba get the furthest forward and poorly create chances - Bruno can do the exact same thing.
He needs to play as a CM and let VDB decide when to keep shape or move.
Pogba showed today that attacking from CM is no different to playing from AM. I saw Pogba get the furthest forward and poorly create chances - Bruno can do the exact same thing.
Why does he get praised for his High risk high reward antics? Are we a casino? There will come a time when he has to be held accountable for always giving away the ball. Its not acceptable against good opposition. That long shot he tries really sums him up.
Except that's not really the case, is it?
Hahaha in what world has Bruno been dreadful? Take him out this side and we create nothing. By far our best player and a stupid decision to take him off.
Very sloppy but you can never question his effort. Has started the season a bit slowly, but will improve.
I find Bruno to be infuriating. Is that elite mentality looks like these days? Another in a long line of post Ferguson bluffers.
He is struggling with the ball whenever he is asked to do any defensive work alongside.
I want a close up of him when he stares at Pogba after the penalty is scored. From a distance he looks fuming with him.
He's suffering because Fred and McTominay cannot play the ball out from midfield. He's supposed to be creating play for us, how can he do that if he's not seeing the ball, or coming deep to get the ball?
He's a victim of Oles coward tactics of protecting our £150m+ defence with two DMs.
He's a victim of Oles coward tactics of protecting our £150m+ defence with two DMs.
Needs to be played as an 8. As a 10,he is far too reckless with possession. As an 8 for Portugal, he is everywhere and yet offers more composure and knits play well.
Ronaldo would be having a shocker, then pop up with a goal or an assist, on many occasions. That's what made him so valuable.
VdB has done nothing to show he should be starting ahead of Bruno yet.
Tbf, is it cowardly tactics when they regularly prove they need that protection?
The whole lot is a convoluted mess really the more I think about it, where do you start with it all?
We can’t have a back 4 devoid of passing ability, a midfield of Fred and McTominay who are average on the ball at best and expect Bruno to solve world hunger. Pogba is somewhat In the same boat for me but he take more touches than Bruno so will actually contribute to the problem here in games like this.
we take too long to transition the ball and means we have no space in critical thirds either behind the opposition midfield or behind their fullbacks. There is no room to pass and we are smothered. People think we suffer against low blocks But the problem is actual our slow transitions through midfield against better teams and into Bruno or out wide. Bruno wasn’t great today but we are playing a defensive diamond, with defensive full backs, so we aren’t playing to his strengths.
we also aren’t playing with any width in possession and our fullbacks are not attack minded or contributing in final third which you just can’t have. That is on Ole.
we take too long to transition the ball and means we have no space in critical thirds either behind the opposition midfield or behind their fullbacks. There is no room to pass and we are smothered. People think we suffer against low blocks But the problem is actual our slow transitions through midfield against better teams and into Bruno or out wide. Bruno wasn’t great today but we are playing a defensive diamond, with defensive full backs, so we aren’t playing to his strengths.
we also aren’t playing with any width in possession and our fullbacks are not attack minded or contributing in final third which you just can’t have. That is on Ole.
An off day for Bruno. No complaints against Bruno from me. I just wish Ole had not given us a chance to salvage a point by not taking him off the pitch.
When he first arrived I Remember saying something like he can misplace as many passes as he likes as at the time he was making correct decisions and so close to completing some of these passes.
Now everytime I watch him I just think why are you doing that or trying that. At some point he has to realise not every ball needs to be a killer ball and that it would be good to actually keep possession for a while. He just seems to turn over possesion so easily.
Probably another reason why we need two water carriers in midfield to cover for the amount of times we turn over possesion with unforced errors.
Now everytime I watch him I just think why are you doing that or trying that. At some point he has to realise not every ball needs to be a killer ball and that it would be good to actually keep possession for a while. He just seems to turn over possesion so easily.
Probably another reason why we need two water carriers in midfield to cover for the amount of times we turn over possesion with unforced errors.
Wow amazing performance. He's so good in consistently making all those rubbish passes. Sure now and then you'll get the good passes like 1 good passes out of 10 attempts, is it worth it? Not when we're struggling to take hold of the possession or even properly building up attacks and composure.
It's like he's wearing heavy boots. Or didn't had a good night rest. Or forgot how to football. Seriously his form have been steadily declining ever since he joined. As it the trainings we're doing not working as intended in sharpening/improving player's shape and form. What have we been doing? Is Manchester United curse or something
It's like he's wearing heavy boots. Or didn't had a good night rest. Or forgot how to football. Seriously his form have been steadily declining ever since he joined. As it the trainings we're doing not working as intended in sharpening/improving player's shape and form. What have we been doing? Is Manchester United curse or something
Glad I'm not the only one seeing his decisions makings are getting worse and worse.
His earliest games are mostly reasonable - he combined his risky passes and the safe passes well, depending on situations. Many of us are in awe about this since we don't have that kind of composed midfielder with his passing abilities. None of this silly "each time I get the ball, I'll send one killer passes in" and repeat 100x. It's silly.
Wasn't there a concern before we signed him that he lost the ball too easily? Obviously been brilliant for us but it is very noticeable that he loses the ball cheaply by constantly attempting passes that are not on.
Both he and Pogba were shite, you keep Fernandes on because he might react to the subs better.
He is dangerous, even on a bad day.
He is dangerous, even on a bad day.
Yeah, I thought of that recently and had a look. Was definitely there, but the source seemed to be an ESPN article so I didn't post.
He was poor and has been for a while now. The amount of times he gives the ball away cheaply is infuriating.
Today shows majority of our success since lockdown has been down to Bruno. When he has an average day like today, we struggle.
We do have a centre back with pace to keep up with mbappe but for some reason he hasn't been seen since the psg game
He was poor and his erratic play has to be weeded out, but he never should have subbed off.
Low IQ player. Always said as soon as the penalties dry up and he isnt stats padding people will open their eyes and start realizing what exactly he is offering in open play ie absolute feck all. hasnt put a good 90 min in ages but was covering it up with penalties (mostly won by others) and getting free passes on 2/10 performances because of it.
No better than Sanchez . Only Sanchez didnt take set pieces and penalties to boost his stats
No better than Sanchez . Only Sanchez didnt take set pieces and penalties to boost his stats
Fernandes was poor, especially first half. Worst performance from him we have seen
There is a reason he was still in Primera Liga at 25 years old. No big club came for him before us.
He was even crying in one game because he thought he would be leaving and nothing happened. And even when Zidane was obssessed with Pogba and he was priced out of moving Madrid's alternative was Donny (and rightly so, infact without Covid he would likely be a Madrid player already). Madrid never wanted Bruno Fernandes. Nobody did.
Its true I saw the report that the club had reservations about his ball retention ability but they still went and bought him out of desperation so they have to live with the consequences. They knew what they were getting.
But the truly top teams won't tolerate players that are reckless with the ball and mostly average in open play, if they arent desperate
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Problem is both him and Pogba aren't disciplined enough. They loses the ball very often which creates more issues to the rest of the team. Precisely why they won't work each other very well.
Now, replace one of them with Mata it would be a bloody good partnership because Mata has the intelligence and doesn't lose the ball very often.
Now, replace one of them with Mata it would be a bloody good partnership because Mata has the intelligence and doesn't lose the ball very often.
Actually Bruno seems to have linked up with Mata in the few matches they played together this season 10 times better than anything he has linked with Pogba so far.
I think this is the crux of the argument and why there will always be two "sides" to this debate. On both sides it's an intuition and belief rather than anything based on empirical evidence.
I think if you took your argument to its logical conclusion you would see the issues with it, but I don't care enough about the debate to do that or to look for the empirical evidence.
All I'll say is that no player in history has ever been judged by goals and assists alone. Particularly playmakers. Football is a very low scoring sport so goals are more decisive, but because they're so rare the other involvements take on more importance. Basketball for example is very different.
Losing the ball constantly has a big impact in football, even more so in this era of football. If someone keeps the ball all the time and creates two goals he has almost always been better than someone who creates two goals and always loses the ball. That one metric doesn't define a performance.
The other problem here is the premise that someone like Bruno can create a goal every game, so his all round games matters little. We know that hasn't happened and won't happen, so in games like yesterday when he can't create, his other deficiencies become much more prominent. Dr Bruyne has those games too but has much better technique to fall back on so his overall impact is generally higher, in good games and poor ones.
He had a bad match for sure but seriously what the feck is this. You should open your eyes first before telling other to do so. Such a stupid post.
At United
Hes better than Pogba at creating
Hes better than Pogba at tracking back
Hes better at Pogba for showing for the ball
So of course he comes off and Pogba stays on
Hes better than Pogba at creating
Hes better than Pogba at tracking back
Hes better at Pogba for showing for the ball
So of course he comes off and Pogba stays on
Don’t forget putting Bruno left midfieldAt United
Hes better than Pogba at creating
Hes better than Pogba at tracking back
Hes better at Pogba for showing for the ball
So of course he comes off and Pogba stays on
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