I don't respect him as a manager, but he's still a person. I just meant we don't need to resort to petty insults about calling people cllusterfecks, that's all.
End of Season. Moyes to Stay or Go Poll
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91%. wow.
Agreed. As a person, he hasn't done anything wrong actually.
He's done a tonne wrong, but that's because he's not suited for the role. It's only under much more speculation as it's such a famous role.
You wouldn't make someone a CEO of a hedge fund firm, after being a CFO of a small little firm struggling to improve profits. We appointed him, and paid the price. He's lacking the skills needed to fulfill his role to the maximum.
That's him as manager, not as a person.
Ah, yeah.. ..
What have you been smoking, Crackers
I was agreeing with your early post.Haven't a clue....What have you been smoking, Crackers
Moyes is living (even now) on Fergie time.
When an oppo fans wants him out, for they pity us....
You know it's that fecking bad
You know it's that fecking bad
Go. Walk out the door. Don't turn around now. You're not welcome anymore.
I will be curious what performance measurements/KPIs have been inserted into Davey's contract.
I am praying he actually does something about this or else he should pack his bags because it won't make a difference for the future
It's over, Moyes.
David Moyes could be the living reincarnation of mother fecking Theresa for all I care. He's still the wrong man to manage Manchester United. I don't know how this has been allowed to happen. Look at where we are in the table, look at the absolute fetid, objectionable shite we are putting out as tactics week after week. The man has to go.
Please, feck, give us some relief and either resign or failing that, someone sack him. Christ. I don't care about excuses. No-one at the top end of any industry wants to hear about excuses. What he inherited wasn't perfect but for a manager who's reputation was derived from getting the most out of limited resources, he sure has shot to pieces his one appreciable strength. Because I sure can't think of another. Tactical nouse? no. Free flowing attractive football? No. Oh wait...Scottish? Check. Friend of Fergie? Double check. Wrinkliest 50yr old in the world? Motherfecking check all over that...
This season, these performance, the tactics, the touchline management, the coaching staff handling and hiring, the transfer strategy, the media handling, the press conferences....it's all been pathetic. Excuse after excuse. Enough is enough. A win against Olympiakos would paper over the gross deficiencies in this management structure. Not that I even expect that much. Someone in this organization with some fecking balls has to stand up and do what is right for this club. And that doesn't mean adhering to an old club mantra "sticking by your man" just for the sake of it. We've proved our point already, we aren't trigger happy. We aren't like other clubs. Because if we were, let's be honest, he'd be gone long ago. But we've kept this perennial loser around for so long that all hopes of a trophy and European spot have evaporated for this season. We've accepted mediocrity. We're now talking about next season, and this is "just a blip". Is it feck! This is incompetence. This is someone being woefully out of their depth and being surrounded by people with little or no expertise at the top ends of their fields. This is the proverbial deer caught in the headlights, or actor with stage fright. And none of those concoctions work for Manchester United.
The Fergie factor is of course huge. He's his man. Probably protected by him. I'm not going to criticize such a goliath. A man to which we owe everything. But, I find the situation and attitude to our current situation completely contrarian to the values and goals of our club as espoused by the great man himself, who freely admitted in the past that his successor would have to have great European experience and have to achieve near immediate success. Moyes is the antithesis of that argument.
Get out.
Please, feck, give us some relief and either resign or failing that, someone sack him. Christ. I don't care about excuses. No-one at the top end of any industry wants to hear about excuses. What he inherited wasn't perfect but for a manager who's reputation was derived from getting the most out of limited resources, he sure has shot to pieces his one appreciable strength. Because I sure can't think of another. Tactical nouse? no. Free flowing attractive football? No. Oh wait...Scottish? Check. Friend of Fergie? Double check. Wrinkliest 50yr old in the world? Motherfecking check all over that...
This season, these performance, the tactics, the touchline management, the coaching staff handling and hiring, the transfer strategy, the media handling, the press conferences....it's all been pathetic. Excuse after excuse. Enough is enough. A win against Olympiakos would paper over the gross deficiencies in this management structure. Not that I even expect that much. Someone in this organization with some fecking balls has to stand up and do what is right for this club. And that doesn't mean adhering to an old club mantra "sticking by your man" just for the sake of it. We've proved our point already, we aren't trigger happy. We aren't like other clubs. Because if we were, let's be honest, he'd be gone long ago. But we've kept this perennial loser around for so long that all hopes of a trophy and European spot have evaporated for this season. We've accepted mediocrity. We're now talking about next season, and this is "just a blip". Is it feck! This is incompetence. This is someone being woefully out of their depth and being surrounded by people with little or no expertise at the top ends of their fields. This is the proverbial deer caught in the headlights, or actor with stage fright. And none of those concoctions work for Manchester United.
The Fergie factor is of course huge. He's his man. Probably protected by him. I'm not going to criticize such a goliath. A man to which we owe everything. But, I find the situation and attitude to our current situation completely contrarian to the values and goals of our club as espoused by the great man himself, who freely admitted in the past that his successor would have to have great European experience and have to achieve near immediate success. Moyes is the antithesis of that argument.
Get out.
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He should get the basic rights before he tampers about scouting and academy
Stop sitting on the fence.
He should have been sacked immediately after the 1st leg in Greece, that would have given us time to get it sorted and have a chance at the second leg. It's too late to sack him now, even though he should have never been appointed in the first place and I was very vocal about it.
He's a million miles away from turning this around, we are on a downward spiral at this point. I'd be amazed if the board don't get rid in the summer, it's obvious he's not the right man for the job.
I hate the media's stance that he needs time....we are the current champions, one if the biggest clubs in the world and while everybody expected a transition period this is well beyond that, 7th is a disgrace.
I hate the media's stance that he needs time....we are the current champions, one if the biggest clubs in the world and while everybody expected a transition period this is well beyond that, 7th is a disgrace.
wtf same thread as about 5 days ago. this forum is an utter joke
Not sure how I'll feel come the end of the season, as we still have a good few games to play (I know they mean little in terms of achievement but a particularly strong/weak showing in them would still effect my view). I'd certainly be against sacking him at this point, though, and I'm guessing I'll still be of that view after the Olympiakos game, whatever the result is.
A Preston manager, an Everton manager, but he's not a Man Utd manager. Moyes out.
finally crossed the threshold huh ?92% for his exit says it all, fans (on the caf at least) have had enough.
Does anyone know what the sentiments are grom the match going fans?
Look at BarneyLFC's cheeky vote for 'Stay'.
Bloody opposition fans, coming here, voting on our polls!
Bloody opposition fans, coming here, voting on our polls!
Does my head in, sometimes I think about it feel that he should stay till Christmas, and then sometimes I think I've just had it - not just the results but with the tactics and the lack of plans and the shite-on-a-stick served up on a regular basis - just when I think we're getting a tad better, we regress. Yes it's down to the players and their lack of confidence and motivation and ideas on the pitch - but I totally agree with the posters who say that motivation is down to the manager.
I've voted for him to go, but I'm still actually rather confused; I want to give him till christmas to rebuild in the transfer window and start fresh but then I think about it and feel that giving a new manager a go from the end of the season with a full transfer window and pre-season to work with, might work better.
I've voted for him to go, but I'm still actually rather confused; I want to give him till christmas to rebuild in the transfer window and start fresh but then I think about it and feel that giving a new manager a go from the end of the season with a full transfer window and pre-season to work with, might work better.
To put this into perspective, we have not won two games in a row since December....
He really needs a run of wins, otherwise he should be shown the door. He has won only a third of the games we have played this year. Sure the players may be low on confidence, but it is looking like he doesn't have the ability to get them to buck up and start playing again.
Looking at our fixture list, previously (ie under SAF) I would have thought we had a good chance of getting wins against everyone bar City, with only a couple of hard but winnable games among the rest. Really if he can’t win over half the remaining games, we should sack him.
Looking at our fixture list, previously (ie under SAF) I would have thought we had a good chance of getting wins against everyone bar City, with only a couple of hard but winnable games among the rest. Really if he can’t win over half the remaining games, we should sack him.
Quite similar, fear and pressure there, fear and peer pressure here.
Moyes: I will survive.
Sadly, he does not exude any confidence of even being able to turn around. Infact, he gives every impression of not knowing what is happening or what needs to be done.
To be fair to him, I don't think he can do anything with a blackhole in the midfield, but his seemingly lack of control in the dressing room and indications of declining discipling among players is more worriying.
To be fair to him, I don't think he can do anything with a blackhole in the midfield, but his seemingly lack of control in the dressing room and indications of declining discipling among players is more worriying.
I'd argue the last time we wanted a golden god on the touchline it all ended up in tears...
More like "I will make it hard for them to beat me".
How much it would cost to sack him?
Who cares? Use some of the transfer budget to do it. I'd take no signings at all if it meant Moyes gone. I cannot believe he is still here, we are Manchester United, not a training centre for mid-table managers. He's ruined us.
You do realise you don't have to post here, just incase you didn't know.
He's lowered them enough so people sing him praises when we beat West Brom and Crystal Palace. At that he's done a good job for himself, next year if we finish 5th but only 5 points behind 4th people will consider him successful.
Shouldnt matter. At worst, it'd be around 25mil. We're already paying more by being out of the CL next year.