Im so sorry for calling you by your mental age. I thought you'd be more responsible than to try talk on behalf of others.Kidthat you even have to resort to this kind of nonsense.
Erik ten Hag - Manchester United manager
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Did @el3mel get banned?
That would be great, but imagine they were all managed well also? Amazing right?
Actually, I was very sceptical of him last season too (before it was cool). Called him the Sancho of managers, a highly rated manager/player, that seems to not excel in pretty much anything. But thought that he should get a second season based on results/performances.
Can you really not?
He’s had a lot of time with Dalot for example. The most of all our defenders, and he’s improved quite a lot.
Do you believe the bold were best in class appointments?
Based on your £400m comment do you believe Ten Hag negotiated on behalf of the club for each player including the fee?
That is a non answer. Answer the actual question or don’t respond at all.
We all should absolutely care who is running the business side, who is managing the wider sporting structure of our football club. It’s kind of a big deal.
Who has said I don’t want us to hire best in class for each role? I’d absolutely bite your hand off for a Guardiola. But he’d never join such a poor sporting operation.
you are brilliant.I'm indeed implying that the information and data available to the club that we don't see is not going to save Ten Hag from getting the sack because he's terrible at his job and any data United have will also show that.Are you seriously implying there isn’t lots of information and data available to the club and not us?
Who?
Why keep playing Casemiro as a CB when it's clear he doesn't wanna do it. Lots of time he finds himself either too advanced or way behind playing them onside
Cheers mate
I've noticed that too. "I'll admit ETH has made a lot of mistakes, except every single one that's brought up in this thread"
He's defended Ten Hag all season to the hilt, now he's started gas lighting people when they call him out.
Whether it is or isn't going to save ten hag isn't the question.
The question is if it did why would you think you're more qualified to know otherwise.
Now this is sarcasm
Ok so you claim not to know what I mean by sporting excellence but you also understand what roles the incoming staff will take on.
So answer me this how on earth do you think the bold won’t significantly help Ten Hag?
Do you really think I'm carefully placed on the fence? I'm one of the most staunch defenders of his, but even I see logic behind a sack.
I get idiots tagging me 24/7, I don't think I'm trying to do anything. I think he's still broadly a good coach but that's not enough. People want his career burried in posts
Exactly, he should have abandoned it after Coventry, everyone could see after that it wasn't a good idea, other than Ten Hag it seems.
I realised after I responded to the last post...Looks like it. His last post was this. https://www.redcafe.net/threads/eri...united-manager.470032/page-2486#post-31913383
He had it coming.
Maybe. Seen this movie before though. This squad over performed last season and there is not enough technical ability or game smarts in the squad. This season is the culmination of a decade of shite transfers and financial mismanagement. Two January transfer windows with feck all bought when we have 1 fecking striker, no fit centre backs and no left backs.
Do qualifications matter in this instance? Surely it's just a case of 'I have billions to buy a football club so now I get to say what happens", it could have been a bloke from Qatar. Would he have been better qualified maybe?
My qualifications are irrelevant, it's abundantly clear that Ten Hag isn't qualified to manage Manchester United.
I think this is a very arrogant and naive position to take given you’ve seen absolutely nothing behind the scenes.
If he’s still here next season what makes you believe your understanding our situation any better than INEOS?
Yeh he did. There's a few posters who I wouldn't mind seeing go the same way, on both sides of the ETH fence.
Ashworth, Berrada and Wilcox. Are you more qualified than they are?
Come on lads, leave VP89 alone. 
I'm not sure you fully got the question, il ask it again.
If there are qualified candidates like Wilcox and Berrada who know what it's like between them to be heavily involved in running a successful club, who effectively decide to keep Ten Hag (this is a big if) - would you say they too are deluded trolls or lack common sense?
Really I'm lost for words. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that Casemiro is a horrible fit at the back.
I honestly think ETH has lost his marbles.
You don't need to be an ITK to see it. He is gone, mate, it will just happen after the final. Sacking him now is simply pointless. And besides, Southgate isn't free for a couple of months more. Remains to be seen how they handle the timings of it all.
Seems this thread is being derailed by infighting when it is sure blatantly obvious that Ten Hag is way out of his depth and is surely on his way out
Your whole argument is completely flawed.
No previous managers have had this structure in place, yet they performed better than Ten Hag. Therefore why should we want this best in class structure to support a mediocre manager? Why not bring back Mourinho or LVG and let them benefit from the new structure?
Because you can have all the pieces but if you keep insisting on a system that simply isn't sustainable in the PL and you're unwilling to adapt to what's happening then it doesn't matter what help he gets. If he's decided this is how we're going to play no matter what then we might as well not bother with the structure. He's already said we can't possibly play like Ajax, and that we can't play football because he didn't get De Jong, so unless INEOS are going to hand him De Jong we're pretty fecked aren't we?
We should get a clean slate when the new manager comes in.
I’ll be amazed if you get a straight answer to this.
Fortunately for me, each week, multiple times a week, United play out very public games of football and have lots of coverage of what's happening behind the scenes. He won't be here next season so the point is irrelevant, and then what does that say about my understanding of the situation and INEOS?
There are no straight answers on RedCafe. Only whataboutisms.
Why? He's clearly talking about himself
I'm not trying to trap him.
I'm just seeing so many posts that belittle a school of thought that might want to give him time. I'm assuming the same people would belittle more qualified people if they were to ever land on the same conclusion, or, perhaps they would concede there was more at play than they thought.
In other words I want to know how stubborn they really are.
The Owl.
You're so desperate for credibility that you've resorted to changing your stance to "trusting whatever ineos does".
Just hiding behind Ineos.
In this made up scenario, do they give him a new contract or just let him go into next year with one year left on his current deal?