Sheffield United are genuinely the only other team you could say are coached worse than us. It's sheer madness.
Erik ten Hag - Manchester United manager
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We are so badly managed that Everton managed to get Ancelotti and we didn't.
They also genuinely have poor players.
Plus he doesn't fecking deserve it.
Complaining about missing a lot of defenders. How about setting up deep and compact, and counter attack?
Could have lined up with:
Could have lined up with:
Onana
Dalot AWB Evans Jackson Anthony
Mount Casemiro Mainoo
Garnacho Höjlund
And just focus on not exposing Evans and Casemiro in big open spaces.Dalot AWB Evans Jackson Anthony
Mount Casemiro Mainoo
Garnacho Höjlund
Dont think he will be here next season.
Injuries aside, his signings turned out to be very poor.
Injuries aside, his signings turned out to be very poor.
From the Ole school of "play your players until they're crocked"
Obviously.
Are they coached worse than us though? Or are they just a collection of really shit players out of their depth?
I think they're the worse team, but we're the worst coached. We beat them the other week because of individual brilliance from Bruno, nothing else.
No problem with that. He gets the job for 3 games and he doesn't have to rip his contract at Sky Sports beyond this month.He knows he's gone. Won't be surprised if he resigns tomorrow. We've done a lot of stupid things over the years so let's just get Keane in as interim to see what happens.
Players need to see that glare of his from within 5 meters at least once in their lifetimes.
Who? Ogunneye? Jackson? I'd rather not give an 18 year old, who's only in the squad to make up the numbers, a debut into this shit show.
Literally got banned because I defended myself against accusations of homophobia in another thread.
Honestly, freedom of speech is only present when the herd decides to change direction.
I would say they are coached worse yeah but it's close tbf.
Well yeah but they are shit because they are shit. Not really because of coaching.
Been saying this for ages. The medical team can only give advice but the manager has the final say. No way they keep approving our players just returning from injury back into his high intensity chaosball.
Great.
No harm in hearing his ideas, plus they have to keep the ship looking stable for now, before his brutal demise.
Well yeah, I think they are coached terribly. They've conceded 100 goals.
Odd that half this forum still wants more humiliation in the remaining 4 games!
Is it just pure masochism or is there still belief that Erik will turn it around at the 11th hour and figure out what he is doing wrong?
Is it just pure masochism or is there still belief that Erik will turn it around at the 11th hour and figure out what he is doing wrong?
Agreed. He could have changed it as well when it obviously wasn’t working.
I understand the injuries. But feck me, his game management is terrible.
Well you could and set up the rest of the team to you know, actually protect them for a change.
Well then we suffer playing out of form players out of position. The kids need to make a debut and will eventually HAVE to play in situations like this, otherwise why give them experience? Mainoo and Garnacho are doing it at only a year or two older.
Was it "the worst" or "one of the worst"?
Anyway, it was telling the way McLaren was sitting there just shaking his head and looking down.
It depends. Are the kids really good enough or were they there on the bench just to make the numbers?
I think it's the latter, therefore there is no need to give them debuts.
Not trying to spin the whole thing in any way, it certainly is a mess but I think, the reason for the bolded part is, that ETH gambled and it backfired. I think he said in the interview that he didn't want to adjust the team because it might disrupt the team and he would have to disrupt it again once a few injured players are back. It makes sense to a degree but it really backfired by more and more injuries along the line. We are as open as we are, because he wants us to attack the opponent early to force errors. It makes sense theoretically but it falls short when the backline isn't pushing up to compress the space. But that isn't happening due to the personel we have there... And the result is we get the worst of both worlds, a midfield that is open as feck due to the attackers and often at least one midfielder pushing up but the pressure we can apply is limited because there is always space to play the ball into midfield.
How can you say it’s coaching. They are a championship level team.
When ETH came in, many of us acknowledged that much of the playing staff needed replacing. If we were in a position we are in now but the defeats were because we were properly at teams and not conceding 20+ shots a game and totally easy to beat, then I’d be all up for giving him time and trusting a process we could see happening. But I can’t remember the last full 90 minutes where I’ve thought we played really well. Outside of been lucky some of our defeats could have been real hammerings. Please for the love of anything replace him before the final. Tomorrow in fact.
Ofcourse Evans was asked if we could still play. Just like players use injections to delay surgery. We're relying on Casemiro as the other cb. What was our options, Amrabat and Casemiro together?
So are Luton, yet they have scored 14 more, conceded 22 less and have 10 more points... so yeah, shite coaching.
I can proudly say I've been wanting him out for close to a year nowI think the percentages changed again
Bizarrely, before yet another humiliation, over half the forum wanted us to waste a final on him. Seems a few changed their minds.
I can't believe he's still here. Had we got an interim in, we could have stood a chance in the final. As things stand, you'd expect us to be swept aside like nothing by City.
Get him in until the end of the season he sounds great.
That sounds like something that would be grounds to terminate your contract...
I wonder who the interim manager would be if we let ETH go - and don't say Ole.
Sorry to hear that.
I’ve been on the sack column since this particular poll was posted and ETH has predictably done nothing to change my mind.I think the percentages changed again
Bizarrely, before yet another humiliation, over half the forum wanted us to waste a final on him. Seems a few changed their minds.
I can't believe he's still here. Had we got an interim in, we could have stood a chance in the final. As things stand, you'd expect us to be swept aside like nothing by City.
Him using all the injuries isn’t the excuse he thinks it is. He’s the manager and it’s his job to manage his resources.
If I manage a Tesco and I have 3 lads who stock my shelves, when I send 2 of them on holiday at the same time and then the third calls sick, I don’t get to say it’s bad luck when there is nobody to make sure there’s food to sell on the shelves - I just get fired for being a shite manager.
He has two left backs out on loan which was his decision to ratify last summer. He has youth players who couldn’t be worse than Wan-Bissaka.
He had 8 players he signed available to him today, plus Mainoo and Garnacho. There are no excuses for that result.
In reality he should have never worked another day for this club after shipping 7 to Liverpool, but we can’t keep allowing these standards to slide. If he’s still in the job this time tomorrow the message it sends about what is acceptable at the club is piss poor.
If I manage a Tesco and I have 3 lads who stock my shelves, when I send 2 of them on holiday at the same time and then the third calls sick, I don’t get to say it’s bad luck when there is nobody to make sure there’s food to sell on the shelves - I just get fired for being a shite manager.
He has two left backs out on loan which was his decision to ratify last summer. He has youth players who couldn’t be worse than Wan-Bissaka.
He had 8 players he signed available to him today, plus Mainoo and Garnacho. There are no excuses for that result.
In reality he should have never worked another day for this club after shipping 7 to Liverpool, but we can’t keep allowing these standards to slide. If he’s still in the job this time tomorrow the message it sends about what is acceptable at the club is piss poor.
Yeah and if not for the fact we have a team of internationals that have cost hundreds of millions to assemble we'd probably be down there with them.
It wouldn't be entirely fair but we've thrown forwards in like Rashford and Garnacho when we've been desperate. If they're good enough to play for United we'll see glimpses of something, a clean sheet isn't expected.
I think there is no upside to play Evans and/or Casemiro. They're both finished as footballers, if a youth CB plays and has the same terrible game as them, at least in the medium and long, it could work towards his development.
Luton have more quality.