Max said similar things. All from Lewis making some pretty normal comments yesterday about the pressure in a title fight. I dunno kinda sounds like the pressure is getting to them the way they’ve acted recently.
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Max said similar things. All from Lewis making some pretty normal comments yesterday about the pressure in a title fight. I dunno kinda sounds like the pressure is getting to them the way they’ve acted recently.
Is it definite though? I thought they were going to wait to see outcome of qualifying I.e. if max sticks it on pole and is dropped to 4th via penalty then maybe they wont change the engine.
Knew it would happen, making the penalty null and void.
Nothing in rules against it, maybe there should be .
Considering it's Mercedes fault he has to take a penalty in the first place, it's probably still harsh on Verstappen.
I don't think he's going to go sailing through the grid this weekend, especially with Leclerc in front of him.
If it rains on Sunday who knows. If his (max) luck is in and theres a safety car or two he could still end up in the top 5 or even podium.
When your destined to win a championship luck seems to arrive when you most need it. Thinking back to Seb at RB getting 2 or 3 saftey cars in one of the middle east races when starting at the back or the grid and still making the podium. Or Seb again at brazil when he spun his RB at turn 4, was facing the wrong way and the entire pack somehow didnt clip his at at all. He turned the car around and his race and got a points finish which helped him towards his championship that year.
When your destined to win a championship luck seems to arrive when you most need it. Thinking back to Seb at RB getting 2 or 3 saftey cars in one of the middle east races when starting at the back or the grid and still making the podium. Or Seb again at brazil when he spun his RB at turn 4, was facing the wrong way and the entire pack somehow didnt clip his at at all. He turned the car around and his race and got a points finish which helped him towards his championship that year.
Russian GP FP2
Russian GP Practice Two Timesheet
| Driver | Team | Time |
|---|---|---|
| 1) Valtteri Bottas | Mercedes | 1:33.593 |
| 2) Lewis Hamilton | Mercedes | +0.044 |
| 3) Pierre Gasly | AlphaTauri | +0.252 |
| 4) Lando Norris | McLaren | +0.561 |
| 5) Esteban Ocon | Alpine | +0.809 |
| 6) Max Verstappen | Red Bull | +1.028 |
| 7) Carlos Sainz | Ferrari | +1.085 |
| 8) Fernando Alonso | Alpine | +1.169 |
| 9) Sebastian Vettel | Aston Martin | +1.244 |
| 10) Charles Leclerc | Ferrari | +1.322 |
| 11) Sergio Perez | Red Bull | +1.345 |
| 12) Kimi Raikkonen | Alfa Romeo | +1.459 |
| 13) George Russell | Williams | +1.501 |
| 14) Antonio Giovinazzi | Alfa Romeo | +1.585 |
| 15) Lance Stroll | Aston Martin | +1.741 |
| 16) Nicholas Latifi | Williams | +1.818 |
| 17) Daniel Ricciardo | McLaren | +2.037 |
| 18) Yuki Tsunoda | AlphaTauri | +2.361 |
| 19) Nikita Mazepin | Haas | +2.506 |
| 20) Mick Schumacher | Haas | +2.637 |
Definitely. Is this something that could happen?
Classic Red Bull trying to cheat their way out of a penalty.
How is it Mercedes fault?
The Bottas crash took this engine.. But it isn't really Mercedes' fault. The tribalisim in this thread is hilarious!
How is Max cheating out of a penalty? I thought the penalty was to go to the back of the grid?
The penalty from Italy was a 3 or 4 place grid penalty I believe. Hard to apply the penalty if you start from the back of the grid!
Well it was caused by Hamilton's crash which damaged the engine beyond repair. My point is, if they dodge a 3 place grid penalty because they have to start at the back of the grid due to having to use an extra engine already - that's probably still harsh on RB.
I don' think with Leclerc starting ahead of him either will help. They'll sail past the Haas' but it won't be so easy once they reach the top 10-15.
I think it's safe to say as long as Hamilton finishes he should be taking the lead come sunday evening.
I forgot it's not motor racing, but a gentle parade of f1 cars.
Hamiltons crash? I assume you mean Silverstone which I'm not 100% is the cause of the damage. But even if it was, it was about 60/40, both drivers contributed.
Hamilton served his 10 second penalty. Which is about equivalent to a 3 place grid penalty from Italy where Verstappen was 60/40 to blame.
Regardless, The 3 place penalty should be taken at another track if they change engine.
Hamilton’s penalty eventually resulted in no penalty.
Verstappen’s penalty eventually resulted in no penalty.
I think it’s fair.
Verstappen’s penalty eventually resulted in no penalty.
I think it’s fair.
How did a 10 second penalty result in no penalty? It seems a ridiculous statement
Hamilton gained 32 points on Verstappen with the Silverstone crash.
Max gained 3 points on Lewis with the Monza crash.
Red Bull had to pay 1.2$ million to repair the car, money that could have been used for new updates.
And now VER has to start at the back of the grid because his engine was wiped out in the incident.
Current results:
29 points in advantage for Hamilton championship swing
1.2$ million bill for Red Bull
+ Incoming points loss in Russia for Verstappen.
End result probably will be at least 40 points gained for Hamiltons from his Silverstone mistake.
Probably the most rewarded mistake ever in F1 history. Verstappen need to win 6 races straight to make up for that incident alone.
You think thats fair?
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Insert Bottas taking out both Red Bulls and that a 50-60 points swing in favour of Hamilton from Mercedes cars taking out Red Bulls.
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That's completely irrelevant. That happened after the fact and could have turned out completely differently. You don't see someone get hacked down in the box, get a penalty, score and then moan afterwards that the penalty wasn't fair because the other team then went and scored 7 goals. A penalty is supposed to in the moment penalise you for something, it's not supposed to guarantee a certain outcome when the race is over.
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Oh good, we've descended into tedious tribalism before actual qualifying has even begun.
At this rate, Santi's madness was pale compare to this Lewis/Max bickering.
It's fun, isn't it...
I think we have established multiple times this season already that F1's rules don't really cover all eventualities properly, and can benefit racers in ways that wasn't intended. Didn't Hamilton also get advantage from a restart at some point? Stuff like that. Same case here: it may not be fair, but it's what F1 prescribes, so what are you going to do. Surely no-one would expect Red Bull (or Mercedes, or anyone else) to say it's unfair and volunteer to take the grid penalty another time.
So, can we please move on?
I think we have established multiple times this season already that F1's rules don't really cover all eventualities properly, and can benefit racers in ways that wasn't intended. Didn't Hamilton also get advantage from a restart at some point? Stuff like that. Same case here: it may not be fair, but it's what F1 prescribes, so what are you going to do. Surely no-one would expect Red Bull (or Mercedes, or anyone else) to say it's unfair and volunteer to take the grid penalty another time.
So, can we please move on?
When I joined this thread and forum, it was a nice f1 thread without the tedious tribalism. I wish for those days.
He won the race, no harm done.
Max avoids the grid penalty. No harm done.
Move on.
I never said hamilton was completely at fault, but it was a crash with him that means verstappen needs a new engine.
somebody above said it’s been equaled out now but let’s be honest it hasn’t.
I think the rules of losing an engine because of a crash is a bit overly harsh personally.
This thread just isn’t fun anymore unfortunately. The exact opposite of the NFL thread.
Saturday qualifying in danger because of heavy rain.
https://f1i.com/news/419357-f1-prep...yB57zK8FJlfcV6rMUzc2_aL-B_XJkyALMEoCfpg13wc-k
https://f1i.com/news/419357-f1-prep...yB57zK8FJlfcV6rMUzc2_aL-B_XJkyALMEoCfpg13wc-k
FP3 is cancelled , the rain is very heavy.
This was the storm earlier
The opening F2 race was also postponed earlier on Saturday.
Qualifying is still slated to start at 1pm, although F1 could change the time and delay that shootout depending on the conditions.
The rain is expected to ease up through Saturday, giving hope for a wet and unpredictable qualifying.
If qualifying can not take place today, it will be held on Sunday morning before the race.
"From what we've seen from the forecast side is that we will have this level of rain until about 1.30pm local time (11.30am UK) and then decreasing in the afternoon," said F1 race director Michael Masi.
"The priority from today's perspective is Formula 1 qualifying this afternoon - Formula 1 will take priority."
He added: "Sunset locally is about 6.15pm (4.15pm UK), but with weather conditions like this light diminishes far earlier so that will ultimately be our cut off point.
"If qualifying isn't able to happen today, as we 've seen in the past we will hold qualifying on Sunday morning."
Qualifying is still slated to start at 1pm, although F1 could change the time and delay that shootout depending on the conditions.
The rain is expected to ease up through Saturday, giving hope for a wet and unpredictable qualifying.
If qualifying can not take place today, it will be held on Sunday morning before the race.
"From what we've seen from the forecast side is that we will have this level of rain until about 1.30pm local time (11.30am UK) and then decreasing in the afternoon," said F1 race director Michael Masi.
"The priority from today's perspective is Formula 1 qualifying this afternoon - Formula 1 will take priority."
He added: "Sunset locally is about 6.15pm (4.15pm UK), but with weather conditions like this light diminishes far earlier so that will ultimately be our cut off point.
"If qualifying isn't able to happen today, as we 've seen in the past we will hold qualifying on Sunday morning."
Max at the back and a potentially mixed up grid. Could be a good one tomorrow
Max with a spanking new engine, this track is pretty good to overtake on, he should be well up in the points.
The F3 race scheduled for today has now been cancelled.
Saturday's F1 Qualifying and the F2 Sprint race are still scheduled to go ahead as planned.
Saturday's F1 Qualifying and the F2 Sprint race are still scheduled to go ahead as planned.
Max will win the race if its wet and carnage.
the race is set to be dry, even in the wet with carnage v difficult to win from the back.
Is there any point Verstappen using tyres and qualifying today if he's got his penalty?
Hope it's a wet race tomorrow! The fans look frozen
Hope it's a wet race tomorrow! The fans look frozen
Russian GP Qualifying
Q1 starts on time
The race is set to be dry.
track looks very greasy,
Max has been out but is back in, doubt he will be out again, why risk it in these condition when the race is meant to be dry.
Max has been out but is back in, doubt he will be out again, why risk it in these condition when the race is meant to be dry.
Excellent reaction by the Ferrari driver