Or Shwartzman who deserves a slot but he's Russian too.
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It's not as bad if you read his full comments:Max Verstappen says removal of Michael Masi as race director 'very unfair' - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/60512909
He's right that people higher up need to take a significant share of the blame here, as they put the procedures in place that made Masi's work difficult, and they are also the ones who appointed Masi as race director while he was inexperienced and didn't have the proper support. It's true that that's not very fair to Masi.
But be that as it may, Masi still made poor decisions and his position had become untenable. Whatever Verstappen thinks, Masi was clearly not 'a good race director' last season.
He wasn't but then I don't think anyone else would have done a better job thrown into such an isolated role in the same circumstances.
Basically a scapegoat to FIA's lack of planning not accounting for Charlie retiring, getting ill, or as sadly happened, dying suddenly.
Yes indeed. He tried too hard to be all things to all men and failed as a result.
I don't doubt his knowledge and abilities. But once you open the communication up in the way he did, the floodgates opened.
He was then completely swamped with requests and was not strong enough to tell them to shut the fxxx up and let me do my job.
Unfortunately, I don't think that under the circumstances he allowed to take place, it is difficult to see that anyone could have done a more damaging job.
His problems were self inflicted.
Well they obviously weren't self inflicted. He didn't make the decision to let Toto and Horner scream in his ear for most of the race demanding he not put out a safety car or demanding the lapped cars get to pass.
He also didn't decide on his own that they should avoid finishing races under safety car at all costs. It was all the teams who collectively agreed to that and put that extra pressure on him.
Yes it was. Because of the simple fact that he allowed the teams to lobby him during the previous races.
He should have recognised what was happening and put a stop to it.
Anyway, the FIA have made their decision and he is no longer race director is he.
What happens to the points for Sochi? Do they just give them to Verstappen?
Indeed. Especially since "the race director has the ultimate power to change the rules".
Not a big loss though, I also found it weird that he would contact teams and offer them deals instead of race stewards announcing penalties. Giving up positions, "brake check" etc could have been avoided easily.
Shit
. I should've read the last page before jumping in thinking I was being hilarious!From what I understand, it's been Masi's approach from the start to be very open and communicative. I suppose it helped him at the start of his tenure, to gain confidence and understanding from the teams, and to learn more quickly and understand things better himself as well. But this ultimately did lead to last season's issues, and so 'people screaming in his ear' was ultimately also a problem of his own making.
I did read it. For me it's just as bad. His comparison is a dud because football refs do have players and managers shouting for decisions.
It reads like Max trying to justify his mate who handed him his title.
Particularly a day after Lewis has called out stewards and officials being overly familiar with drivers. Timing.
Who would've thought it would be external influences and not Mazepin's terrible driving that loses him his seat!
Masi's problem was he had no backbone and was too wishy washy.
He needs to make his mind up and stick to it. What he allowed to happen in Abu Dhabi was on him. Should have just stuck to the rules but got swayed by Red Bulls Jonathan Wheatley in his ear constantly.
All season he'd been undermining him and making him look a fool - he cracked under the pressure more than once.
Maybe it was too big of a job for 1 man, but he will take the brunt of it.
He needs to make his mind up and stick to it. What he allowed to happen in Abu Dhabi was on him. Should have just stuck to the rules but got swayed by Red Bulls Jonathan Wheatley in his ear constantly.
All season he'd been undermining him and making him look a fool - he cracked under the pressure more than once.
Maybe it was too big of a job for 1 man, but he will take the brunt of it.
Shit
On the current discussion about Max and Masi. Max is the one person I really can't blame for this (in the final race, stuff before is a different story). Max only went for what was given to him, like one would expect from any racer. It must have felt like a miracle to get that chance after how the race had gone for him. It's only human to rationalise it internally and be in favor of the person granting that miracle.
Just a bit of caution, it was set on the softest tyres, I hope the big boys will end up with a similar race pace, last thing the sport needs is another 1 team procession to the championship.I see Mercedes finally showed their legs and did the fastest time of the test so far.
So much for them being behind
I'm not sure it's about alignment, it's more that the USA government will restrict businesses from doing business with Russia. Haas is pretty confident it's moving to that next stage so he's cutting the contract now and will then look for other sponsors. BWT is one that screams to me that they will want more pink on the grid.
I reckon we could see a return for Antonio Giovanazzi here. Fits the profile well, and has experience in a car to jump straight in.
Exactly that. Glad to see someone understands.
It was faster than both Mclaren and Ferrari's best times on the same tyre I believe.
Obviously still doesn't mean much - but that's all we have to go on.
Well yes that also. I'm sure they'll have no issue finding a new sponsor if they can break the contract.
Or just not showing all their cards.
Always said no team should be showing what their car can really untill, first race Q3.
Alpine should buy that Haas seat for Piastri.
I think what happens is they have a bonus race at an alternate venue. Verstappen is given new tyres and Hamilton has to use the oldest tyres from the previous race. The order from the previous race is used but any car between Max and Lewis is allowed to be cleared, they fairly duke it out on the track and then the winner collects 25 points.
So, another 1-2 in testing for Mercedes. Surprise surprise!
Will be interesting to see where teams can improve between now and Bahrain.
Will be interesting to see where teams can improve between now and Bahrain.
Barcelona pre-season test: Day Three timesheet
I am not reading much in to the timing to be honest, good 3 day shakedown.
Barcelona pre-season test: Day Three timesheet
Barcelona pre-season test: Day Three timesheet
| Driver | Team | Time | Tyres | Laps |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1) Lewis Hamilton | Mercedes | 1:19.138 | C5 (very soft) | 94 |
| 2) George Russell | Mercedes | 1:19.233 | C5 | 66 |
| 3) Sergio Perez | Red Bull | 1:19.556 | C4 (soft) | 74 |
| 4) Max Verstappen | Red Bull | 1:19.756 | C3 (medium) | 59 |
| 5) Sebastian Vettel | Aston Martin | 1:19.824 | C5 | 48 |
| 6) Charles Leclerc | Ferrari | 1:19.831 | C3 | 44 |
| 7) Carlos Sainz | Ferrari | 1:20.072 | C3 | 92 |
| 8) Alex Albon | Williams | 1:20.318 | C4 | 94 |
| 9) Nicholas Latifi | Williams | 1:20.699 | C4 | 13 |
| 10) Daniel Ricciardo | McLaren | 1:20.750 | C3 | 86 |
| 11) Lando Norris | McLaren | 1:20.827 | C3 | 52 |
| 12) Fernando Alonso | Alpine | 1:21.242 | C3 | 12 |
| 13) Guanyu Zhou | Alfa Romeo | 1:21.939 | C3 | 41 |
| 14) Pierre Gasly | AlphaTauri | 1:22.469 | C4 | 40 |
| 15) Nikita Mazepin | Haas | 1:26.229 | C3 | 9 |
| 16) Valtteri Bottas | Alfa Romeo | 1:30.433 | C3 | 10 |
Be curious to know what the time differences are between compounds with these new tyres.
I was thinking the same, Lewis and George on the c5, looks to be .3 / .4 faster than C4 and .6 than C3, how this will translate at race pace will be interesting.
Could you publish the source of this agreement?
Zak Brown:
“But at times it has seemed the sport is governed by certain teams. Let us not forget that we, the teams, have contributed to the inconsistencies in the policing of the regulations as much as anyone ... It is the teams who applied the pressure to avoid finishing races under a Safety Car at all costs.”
In other words, stop whinging Toto you only got what you asked for.
I think we a know that the fastest laps over this week would be obliterated under qualifying conditions. As for the testing I’m starting to think they should of added an extra testing week to the schedule, as half the teams could rock up in the Bahrain test week thinking they have fixed the porpoise problem only to see it again, it’s a brand new car design after all.
Testing times are pretty much not relevant , well I dont think so.
I only take a passing interest to be honest.
I agree about another testing, the porpoise problem could be a big problem for some teams.
I would hate to see it at full race speed.
Do we have a fantasy league up?
The one we used last season , is still running , but the page has not been updated for a while.
I will look for another one.
There is a few out there, including the official F1 League.
I happy to set one up on another site or if somebody has one , we could use that.
Stop peddling this bullshit until you show actual evidence of this.
I already did..? Not that I should have to, given all the media coverage and the existence of google.
Weird to get worked up about something that's both innocuous and common knowledge. It doesn't change the fact that Masi used a creative interpretation of the rules to get to the desired outcome, which he shouldn't have done. But the outcome itself (not finishing under a safety car) was something the teams (including Toto) demanded of him.
I disagree with most of what @hobbers says in this thread but there was actually talk of this specific thing all season, why would he make it up!?
The Alfa is gorgeous
WowzersThe Alfa is gorgeous
