Drivers deliberately crash in qualifying to protect their position? No way!
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If there's a genuine reason like that then you can understand Max not giving up the place
This is not true, is it ?
If It can be proven could Perez be in hot water with the FIA ?
It would be if the guy making it didn't pretend to be a Norris fan who was completely neutral for most of last year.
Verstappen could drive straight into the crowd, and he'd find a way for it to be Hamilton's fault.
Why would Perez want to deliberately crash to finish 3rd in the qualifying? And why would he admit that to anybody and risk a severe punishment?
And if he did admit that to Horner and Marko why would ViaPlay get wind of it?
So just that I understand this correctly, this is an accurate report and not some conspiracy theory by the heavily biased Dutch media 
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?Exactly what I'm wondering, had to go back to the quali highlights as I didn't remember him getting pole. Doesn't really add up, sounds like utter rubbish
Because the Red Bull/Dutch media spin has to justify it somehow, it can’t possibly be the golden boys fault. Tom Coronel! Not biased at all then, might as well have asked Jos, if he isn’t too busy beating up his girlfriend.
Jesus some people will go at anything just to have a go at max, it’s second in the fecking championship, do you know who will remember it in 10 years, only the dickhead writing captions when interviewing him, seasons been long over give its rest with these king tribalism I think Charles should also be embarrassed about asking sainz to give up a podium set you targets higher for feck sake Charles, as Ricky bobby used say if you ain’t 1st your last.
Checo and Charles.
Quite separate to all the gesticulating in this thread, I do think it's bizarre that Sergio and Charles care so much about a losers championship trophy.
You might say it's like getting a podium on your record but it isn't, not really. I'd rather have third place at Interlagos than second in the drivers championship.
This will be perez best season finish in f1, where ever he places. Do you think he doesn't care?
I think the opposite, people will efend max over anything. His radio message is horrendous after everything perez has done for him.
This red bull drama is great though, really enjoying it.
Imagine a race if everyone gave up if they weren’t fighting for first position.
For sure but I would totally understand the outrage if it was 0.4s. In this case Perez was a lightyear behind and Max almost caught the Alpine in the end.
The team should rather ask themselves how they go from Perez in podium and Max 10th to Max being 4s ahead of him in the few laps after the safety car.
Max probably wouldn't let the safety car pass him either.
Imagine a team sport where people fight for the team rather than themselves.
That's what you guys seemingly want, that drivers just give up their positions.
He's not wrong.
Wonder if the fia will investigate.
Probably desperate to get a good result and stay in the sport. Trying too hard maybe?
I can't see Perez admitting to it even if it is true, so no.
It's ironic you claim folks should give it a rest with the tribalism, while defending Max for a pointless refusal to give a place back, given how often Checo has sacrificed for him.
There's almost certainly a big financial incentive for Perez to get 2nd in his RB contract, not to mention the low likelihood he'll have another opportunity at a 2nd place finish.
If it were another team that doesn't regularly do team orders, or was without the history these 2 have, then nobody would mention it (in the same way nobody is criticising Sainz today), but this is Red Bull, they're the kings of team orders, and given how many times Checo has done it for Max, there was no good reason not to give one back given that he's already the champion. It's not the end of the world or anything, just spoiled and classless (and entirely in character).
Probably not. Got to wonder where it leaves him with red bull though. If its true and they / max leaked it that relationship is very broken.
Good point. If he told this to his bosses and somehow Max and the press all found out
Honestly it sounds like nonsense. Spinning to protect third and doing it in a place that causes a Ferrari to crash into you and damage you.
It's like when people thought Charles had crashed on purpose the year before. Yeah he really wanted to break his own gearbox and DNF.
It’s a championship though, everyone up and down the grid are fighting their own battles as a team and as drivers against each other. Even Senna and Schumacher have moved over once they’d won the title for their team.
Anyway it’s not a big deal and Max said he will help next time.
Daddy Jos after Monaco
https://racingnews365.com/jos-verstappen-disappointed-with-red-bull-after-perezs-monaco-win
https://racingnews365.com/jos-verstappen-disappointed-with-red-bull-after-perezs-monaco-win
max will get perez removed for next season.
Ricciardo will take his seat
Ricciardo will take his seat
Bang on.
Perez should just refuse to ever hand Max a place again.
Wouldn't really make a difference. The pace difference or tyre difference has always been so great that he never actually has a choice in the matter anyway.
Do we post comments from racists on here though?
Second in the drivers championship will carry some permutations on sponsorship payout and driver bonus' from those sponsorships, so I can see the logical arguments from both Perez & Leclerc camps around why second in the drivers championship still carries some importance.
The team won both the championship and the constructors. Other arbitrary objectives don't really matter, especially not for a team of RB's quality.
There's no point trying to get him to see sense.
Obviously it does as Horner said that the team is actively trying to get second for Checo.
We have entire threads about racists here
I posted that as it seems like very very "wah-wah, you didn't help my son" type of a thing. First RB didn't help Max in Monaco and now suddenly a Dutch journalist with links to the family says Perez randomly crashed out to finish 3rd in the qualifying.
max was definitely the kind of child that pulled the wings off of flys.
I know. He's just a vile man though no wonder his son turned out the way he did.We have entire threads about racists here
I posted that as it seems like very very "wah-wah, you didn't help my son" type of a thing. First RB didn't help Max in Monaco and now suddenly a Dutch journalist with links to the family says Perez randomly crashed out to finish 3rd in the qualifying.