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FfsFrom a Princess Diana Facebook group:
FfsFrom a Princess Diana Facebook group:
Let's also be realistic, she's completely useless.Don't think it was as bad as with Megxit. But also, Kate seems to carry herself with dignity and understanding her role.
Perhaps because the Royals are paracites made rich by bleeding the people dry. For some reason Brits love tugging their forelock and being treated like naughty children by toffs but think leaving the democratic EU is getting control back?just an automatic anti Royal reaction.
Got to be satire. Surely?From a Princess Diana Facebook group:
Which is what? Follow her husband around in clothes 30 years to old for her and regularly have kids. What a role model.Kate seems to carry herself with dignity and understanding her role.
Wasn't she one of the many girls who enrolled in college just for a shot at William? Not a 'royal expert'.Which is what? Follow her husband around in clothes 30 years to old for her and regularly have kids. What a role model.
AllegedlyWasn't she one of the many girls who enrolled in college just for a shot at William? Not a 'royal expert'.
The Bolter was originally the nickname given to a much-married and somewhat scandalous character in Nancy Mitford's novels, as I expect you know - it was based on Idina Sackville. I'm pretty sure the Queen Mother was a pal of the Mitford gals.The use of 'bolter' in that egregious article is code, immediately understandable to fellow snobs - it refers to Diana's mother, Frances Shand Kydd, who left her husband. This dismissive, unkind piece of supposed wit was famously spoken by the Queen Mother.
Well she could always behave differently but that's not what the monarchi or majority of the population would want. What do you expect from her?Which is what? Follow her husband around in clothes 30 years to old for her and regularly have kids. What a role model.
It's a monarchi so I don't know what people expect.Let's also be realistic, she's completely useless.
Ah, I see.The Bolter was originally the nickname given to a much-married and somewhat scandalous character in Nancy Mitford's novels, as I expect you know - it was based on Idina Sackville.
Figures.I'm pretty sure the Queen Mother was a pal of the Mitford gals.
And Meghan is meanwhile undignified and Carrie's herself in a slovenly fashion? Not sure what you're saying here.Don't think it was as bad as with Megxit. But also, Kate seems to carry herself with dignity and understanding her role.
I was replying to Steve who said the press was picking on Kate before Meghan arrived. Point was that Meghan seems to have had a rougher ride in the press and that Kate perhaps are very well aware of what is expected from her (in the role she has)And Meghan is meanwhile undignified and Carrie's herself in a slovenly fashion? Not sure what you're saying here.
Kate got a free pass as soon as Meghan arrived.I was replying to Steve who said the press was picking on Kate before Meghan arrived. Point was that Meghan seems to have had a rougher ride in the press and that Kate perhaps are very well aware of what is expected from her (in the role she has)
Yup, quickly started to benefit from being the counterweight to Meghan’s behaviour.Kate got a free pass as soon as Meghan arrived.
Agree.Kate got a free pass as soon as Meghan arrived.
You should get rid of the monarchi then, but as long as it's there it will be the way it is with small adjustments.The point should be that there is no bloody “expectation”. She’s a human being and has a right to act however she wants to be and marrying someone should not change that. It’s an outdated tradition to be expected to have to conform to these royal protocols just because someone is born into it.
As far as I can tell Megan also carries herself with dignity. In what way has she been undignified?Don't think it was as bad as with Megxit. But also, Kate seems to carry herself with dignity and understanding her role.
I was initially responding to another poster, and in no way did i mean that. Meghan has a lot of support on here at least.As far as I can tell Megan also carries herself with dignity. In what way has she been undignified?
see this being said a lot and I’m not comfortable with it. If we have to fund some security to keep them safe from lunatics then so be it. Not really their fault, Harry was born into that position and a lot of ill feeling hasn’t come from anything they’ve done wrong.Good for them. Just don’t expect the UK taxpayers to fund their life away from the royals and be cool with it.
£4 million a year on security alone. Are they going to fund that themselves? Are they feck.
if they step back from Royal duty then they should step back from the royal hand outs too.
There's a national security issue involved too though, isn't there?Good for them. Just don’t expect the UK taxpayers to fund their life away from the royals and be cool with it.
£4 million a year on security alone. Are they going to fund that themselves? Are they feck.
if they step back from Royal duty then they should step back from the royal hand outs too.
Exactly- if the state wants a royal family, then it surely has to fund their security, particularly if they're carrying out civic duties.There's a national security issue involved too though, isn't there?
Even if they step back from Royal duty, stop taking taxpayer money and say they don't want paid-for security, it's still in the UK government's interest to ensure they have that security anyway as they remain a high-profile target for attacks against the state. Whatever H&M might personally want or say, the UK has a stake in ensuring high-profile members of the royal family aren't vulnerable to being attacked or kidnapped. That's not something that's in any way in their control and is in many ways one of the costs that comes with having a royal family. As soon as Prince Harry was born, the state was invested in protecting him.
Particularly when the so-called Festival of Britain will cost approx. £170m.If you look at overall government spending, £2-4m for Harry is tiny.
They should return the house fully renovated lavishly by taxpayer money. Or are they taking it?Good for them. Just don’t expect the UK taxpayers to fund their life away from the royals and be cool with it.
£4 million a year on security alone. Are they going to fund that themselves? Are they feck.
if they step back from Royal duty then they should step back from the royal hand outs too.
I was reading that Guardian piece on this earlier. It's going to be a long-running subject of morbid fascination I feel.Particularly when the so-called Festival of Britain will cost approx. £170m.
The house is owned by the Crown (the Queen effectively) so it's up to her to decide what happens to it. She can obviously kick them out if she wants.They should return the house fully renovated lavishly by taxpayer money. Or are they taking it?
I'm skeptics for now. Come back when they really are independent financial wise.
This reaks donald trump donating his yearly wage for charities (while having reimbursement and stuffs).
Return it 'fully renovated lavishly'- are you worried they'll nick the gold fittings on the way out?They should return the house fully renovated lavishly by taxpayer money. Or are they taking it?
I'm skeptics for now. Come back when they really are independent financial wise.
This reaks donald trump donating his yearly wage for charities (while having reimbursement and stuffs).
They're not that rich arent they?The house is owned by the Crown (the Queen effectively) so it's up to her to decide what happens to it. She can obviously kick them out if she wants.
Given the personal wealth of H&M, I doubt we need to do a whipround for them.
The house that the taxpayer pays because meghan doesn't want to stay in the palaceReturn it 'fully renovated lavishly'- are you worried they'll nick the gold fittings on the way out?
What classes as lavish anyway, since you have such an inside track into the work done there?
Like this? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/politics/61665.stm
Last I read Harry has a personal wealth of £30m and Meghan Markle has a personal wealth of around £4m. I'm not sure what you class as "that rich" but it's certainly very rich in my eyes!They're not that rich arent they?
Meghan's filmography is of a clist actress until suits come along.
I still think it's inappropriate for meghan to snatch away harry like that from his family and duty. This is what she marries herself into. Being a royals has been what Harry's doing.
And I'm not even brits.
Maybe, just maybe, Harry wants out of 'being a royal' anyway and is being snatched nowhere.They're not that rich arent they?
Meghan's filmography is of a clist actress until suits come along.
I still think it's inappropriate for meghan to snatch away harry like that from his family and duty. This is what she marries herself into. Being a royals has been what Harry's doing.
And I'm not even brits.
You cant realistically do so.Maybe, just maybe, Harry wants out of 'being a royal' anyway and is being snatched nowhere.
Maybe Harry thinks his family are a bag of dicks and wants to keep his kids as distant as possible from them.I still think it's inappropriate for meghan to snatch away harry like that from his family and duty
That's small for celebrity standard, personal value means total worth and unless they sell everything they wont have 30m cash.Last I read Harry has a personal wealth of £30m and Meghan Markle has a personal wealth of around £4m. I'm not sure what you class as "that rich" but it's certainly very rich in my eyes!
Conversely I still think it's inappropriate for Harry to snatch Meghan like that from Suits. It was already not the best show and Harry stealing Meghan away like that caused it to go even more downhill! Anyway I think this is the right move for Harry long term, only so much you can do as 6th in line for the throne.
Should be noted if Harry and Meghan do stay in Frogmore, they won't be the only "non-Senior" royals to live in the Crown Estate.
I suspect they will be fine to be honest. @Classical Mechanic has listed out a bunch of stuff they can do and I don't even think Markle will end up back in acting either. £34m might not be a great standard for you but it's probably an ok place to start off from.That's small for celebrity standard, personal value means total worth and unless they sell everything they wont have 30m cash.
Obviously they wont go hungry or cold, but their expense as celebrity isnt cheap. Unless they're going locals and likes like most of us that 30m aint gonna last long.
Security details, nanny, butler, cars, drivers, gardener, personal assistants, designer clothes, etc.
As an outsider, it's puzzling to me that some in the UK seem to me adopting the tone of someone in an employment dispute. As in, "if they don't do X then they shouldn't get Y and Z". When I would have thought that the key thing about royalty is that they get Y and Z simply by virtue of being who they are. Prince Harry isn't obliged to earn his royal status by doing what the public wants, he was born with it. If taxpayers don't like having to pay security for a prince whose actions they disagree with then that's an argument for not having princes really. Once you do have them, this is the kind of thing you'll have to put up with.Exactly- if the state wants a royal family, then it surely has to fund their security, particularly if they're carrying out civic duties.
Given H&M said they want to do some charity stuff- Harry has done a lot with disability charities tbf- then you'd imagine some fudge is found where they get funding and agree to do a minimum level of stuff, but live mainly overseas.
If you look at overall government spending, £2-4m for Harry is tiny.
We shall see i guess. Need to prove it and only time can tell.I suspect they will be fine to be honest. @Classical Mechanic has listed out a bunch of stuff they can do and I don't even think Markle will end up back in acting either.
Not sure what going loco has to do with it.