Ajay Jadeja probably did.I don't think Tendulkar had as many fan-girls as Kohli does
Ajay Jadeja probably did.I don't think Tendulkar had as many fan-girls as Kohli does
Amla for Root as well.Johnson
Kohli for Dhoni, agree with the rest.
Yeah Aldo talk nahAmla for Root as well.
nopeRoot isn't easily top five at all in all formats. Amla, ABD, Williamson, Smith and Kohli are better than him.
Nonsense.Root isn't easily top five at all in all formats. Amla, ABD, Williamson, Smith and Kohli are better than him.
I'm talking about all formats and not tests?Nonsense.
Just look at this cnut over the past two years for crying out loud:
So we're talking about a bloke who's arguably already Englands best ever ODI player and is a T20 match winner then? As well as averaging nearly 70 in test cricket for the best part of 2 years.I'm talking about all formats and not tests?
How is Smith a better ODI/T20 batsman than Root?I'm talking about all formats and not tests?
Neither do any of the others. Kohli is better than all of them in LOI. In Test, Root has 2 or so centuries outside England. Kohli has 3 or 4 in Australia itself. Kohli seems more adept at scoring a good hundred away from home than Root.Kohli doesn't have anywhere close to a claim to 'across formats' top 5 yet.
The others he's being compared to.. they all average >50 in last few years.. Smith, Root, Williamson.. accomplished test players who can make big hundreds. Kohli averages 41 in last 2 years and his high score is 169.
He isn't even India's best test batsman -- Vijay and Rahane have better claims to that.
I think you're just picking up the one statistic that's useful(but not very meaningful) and using it. Root's average away is pretty good -- better than Kohli's anyway. I made the remark about high score because I think Kohli hasn't yet developed the knack to bat time yet, which is important for test cricket. Most great test batsmen have this.Neither do any of the others. Kohli is better than all of them in LOI. In Test, Root has 2 or so centuries outside England. Kohli has 3 or 4 in Australia itself. Kohli seems more adept at scoring a good hundred away from home than Root.
i mentioned the centuries because of your comment on that they score big hundreds more. Anyway its not meaningless at all. There are batsmen who could score 300s at home but struggled overseas. Amassing runs at home vs Scoring abroad is what makes a better sample (not saying w.r.t Root but generally). 11 centuries, 8 of them away from home shows great temperament and adaptability to foreign conditions. Sachin's first 200 was in 1999, 10 years after his debut. Till that game, his highest test score was i think 169 too, with 20 centuries. You wouldnt say he was not a good test batsman because he didnt have a 200 would you?I think you're just picking up the one statistic that's useful(but not very meaningful) and using it. Root's average away is pretty good -- better than Kohli's anyway. I made the remark about high score because I think Kohli hasn't yet developed the knack to bat time yet, which is important for test cricket. Most great test batsmen have this.
He's an amazing ODI player, a decent and improving test and T20 playerSurprised that Kohli's average is only 44. Which isn't special at all in the modern day. He's a brilliant LO player though.
Tbh I don't think batting in tests have changed as drastically as ODIs have.Surprised that Kohli's average is only 44. Which isn't special at all in the modern day. He's a brilliant LO player though.
I think for me to answer that question, I would need more stats such as average balls faced per innings, % of innings played having played >300 balls, how his contemporaries performed at that time, etc. You can't pick one number and make an argument with that. Kallis, for example, didn't get to 200 for a long time but everyone knew he could play the brigadier block routine when the team needed it. Kohli hasn't shown that all-round temperament yet. You can pick any numbers you want, but at the end of the day, he averages 44 and is the 3rd best batsman in a team that doesn't contain truly world class batsmen -- many with great potential, but none truly walking into a world XI.i mentioned the centuries because of your comment on that they score big hundreds more. Anyway its not meaningless at all. There are batsmen who could score 300s at home but struggled overseas. Amassing runs at home vs Scoring abroad is what makes a better sample (not saying w.r.t Root but generally). 11 centuries, 8 of them away from home shows great temperament and adaptability to foreign conditions. Sachin's first 200 was in 1999, 10 years after his debut. Till that game, his highest test score was i think 169 too, with 20 centuries. You wouldnt say he was not a good test batsman because he didnt have a 200 would you?
More or less.Root is a better test player than Kohli and Kohli is a better limited overs player than Root.
I think that's fair to say
Wouldn't read too much into what Johnson said on twitter. He's just after a reaction and it looks like he got it. Kohli did go missing in last year's World Cup Semi, so too though did most of India's batting lineup albeit they were chasing a big score. I like Kohli, he takes Australia on in a way few are brave enough to do and generally his bat does the talking. He might have some choice words for Jimmy Faulkner if he's in form tonight.Kohli said he doesn't respect Johnson. It's all a bit childish.
Yup. I don't think many players have really dominated both ODI's and Test simultaneously, and now T20s are also in the equation. The exceptions I remember are probably Tendulkar & Ponting and which is why they're two of the best to ever play.Root is a better test player than Kohli and Kohli is a better limited overs player than Root.
I think that's fair to say
He is mentioned alongside them isn't he?Why is Williamson not mentioned alongside Root and Smith ? I think he is better than the both of them in most of the formats.
He's literally been mentioned in every post which states the best batsmen playing today.Why is Williamson not mentioned alongside Root and Smith ? I think he is better than the both of them in most of the formats.
I didn't see any post where his name was brought up except the MJ twitter post. But I am guessing it's a debate between Smith and Root for who has the 5th spot in all formats alongside, Amla, AbD, Kohli, Willamson ? If that's the case, Smith for me, but only because He's already the captain in all three formats. The leadership hasn't fazed him or weighed him down one bit.He's literally been mentioned in every post which states the best batsmen playing today.