How many goals has he scored since his purple patch ended last January?
14
Season Average Rating
- Appearances
- 36
- Goals
- 5
- Assists
- 6
- Yellow cards
- 6
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Last was in February. But he is attacker. That is not his job. People say that his job is to mark oppo full back. Seems to me that i suck in football. I always thought that winger must beat a player, score goals, assist....
People underestimate what a player like Lingard and Mata do to the team.
When one of them don't play, we lose the link in attack.
Sanchez, Martial and Rashford are all dribblers. Having them all in attack, whilst it can be good on the counter, means we lose that link in attack and often attacks break down or can't find that pass in between the lines.
Actually, if anyone noticed, it kind of went to pot when Rashford came on for Lingard on the wing. We didn't really conjure up attacks. Rashford is more of a on the last man/run in behind players, whereas Lingard will drop and give that extra option in midfield.
Mourinho then brought on Mata for Sanchez, put Rashford up top and Mata as a roaming winger.
Now, if you look at Juventus, their Lingard/Mata is Cuadrado.
Cuardrado was dropping off all the time, and was the link between midfield and attack.
Whilst Lingard may not do this at the level of Cuadrado, he still gives us that link and finds intelligent positions on the pitch, allowing us to keep the ball better.
He was a big reason as to why we were able to keep the ball better today.
When one of them don't play, we lose the link in attack.
Sanchez, Martial and Rashford are all dribblers. Having them all in attack, whilst it can be good on the counter, means we lose that link in attack and often attacks break down or can't find that pass in between the lines.
Actually, if anyone noticed, it kind of went to pot when Rashford came on for Lingard on the wing. We didn't really conjure up attacks. Rashford is more of a on the last man/run in behind players, whereas Lingard will drop and give that extra option in midfield.
Mourinho then brought on Mata for Sanchez, put Rashford up top and Mata as a roaming winger.
Now, if you look at Juventus, their Lingard/Mata is Cuadrado.
Cuardrado was dropping off all the time, and was the link between midfield and attack.
Whilst Lingard may not do this at the level of Cuadrado, he still gives us that link and finds intelligent positions on the pitch, allowing us to keep the ball better.
He was a big reason as to why we were able to keep the ball better today.
Header against Chelsea for 2.1. As i recall...
Didn't offer a lot on the ball but aided Sanchez in some decent pressing of Juve's two aging CB's.
Where's that been over the last 30 games he's played for us? He had more space then that today on a counter attack and didn't even try to run with it.
He's sunk back into his ways of just being too passive when he has the tools to be more adventurous but he just doesn't really do it that often.
We can still get 20m or so...
He isn't good enough to start for a top team, that's the simple fact. He is very lucky that he gets an easy ride when it comes to criticism from our fans and the media.
To be fair, he has barely had a good game since that for us, and that was nearly a year ago now.
What happened to messe lingard?
He doesnt have the quality in the final third to be a attacking player for a top club. As simple as that. If he doesnt adapt into a more box to box role or a wingback he will end at everton or west ham in a few years.
He never had it. He has one good game and then many pointless games. People overrate him massively. His stats as an attacking player are miserable
In the 2nd half, he had acres of space if he decided to run towards the goal but the fool kept running away from the best area. I have no words, he's pointless.
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Wtf is he doing there
?We could but who will pay his wages? He has 160-190k. He is ours next 3-4 years
Our club has made few mistakes lately but I don't think even they are morons enough to offer Lingard 160-190 k, he is squad player at best not a chance he is on these kind of wages.
All he's supposed to do there is play the ball to Sanchez and then make himself available for a new pass while sprinting towards goal.
I still think he serves a purpose at the club, but should be on the bench more often than he is.
Homegrown and a local lad, but other than that his style isn't what I've seen from other homegrowns.
He settles for the sideways pass far to often. And in the second half he picked up the ball in midfield, Young came forward with acres of space infront of him, but Lingard played it slow and straight at him.
Might seem I'm nitpicking but it sums him up for me, that ball should have been played in front of Young with the intent to attack.
United have settled on a 4-3-3 formation. An extra midfielder puts even more creative responsibilty on the front three.
He can play behind the striker, but I feel there is no place for him in this system.
He settles for the sideways pass far to often. And in the second half he picked up the ball in midfield, Young came forward with acres of space infront of him, but Lingard played it slow and straight at him.
Might seem I'm nitpicking but it sums him up for me, that ball should have been played in front of Young with the intent to attack.
United have settled on a 4-3-3 formation. An extra midfielder puts even more creative responsibilty on the front three.
He can play behind the striker, but I feel there is no place for him in this system.
If that is enough and the best fit for our RW, it would be better to play without one. That was dreadful attacking wise. Alex Sandro the Juventus LEFT BACK offers more with the ball than Lingard, and that's laughable.
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His movement as always was great and Juve had trouble picking him up in that first half, he's barely played this season so it's understandable that he wasn't quite at it in attack but he's done enough to start at the weekend given he's the best fit for the right wing and can actually trouble Mendy
He's a terrible winger and always has been. He plays his best stuff in behind the striker.
It's not laughable at all Sandro is one of the best LB's in the world and genuinely world class in that position and he's so good going forward he's actually played LW a fair bit for Juventus as well
Last night was obviously the first time you've seen Sandro
Yeah, you got me there, it's the first time I've seen Sandro, and I'm shocked that our number 10/winger is a worse attacker than him. Maybe you should be also.
We dont really play with conventional wingers though. Mourinho has always preferred inverted wingers in his teams. We dont play like City or Barca where the wingers are supposed to provide the width in possession.
That said; even playing in this system he is not at his best there, I agree on that. In my mind , in this system he should fight over the other #8 spot besides Pogba.
I think he did really well for England in what was a much more central role. But also in a much more possession-oriented setup which helps his game a lot.
I rate Jesse and I have no idea what people are on about saying we couldnt transfer him for 20m. He would do better in a more possession-oriented system, playing more centrally though IMO. How we play now is not really to his strengths, regardless which position he is asked to fill.
That said; even playing in this system he is not at his best there, I agree on that. In my mind , in this system he should fight over the other #8 spot besides Pogba.
I think he did really well for England in what was a much more central role. But also in a much more possession-oriented setup which helps his game a lot.
I rate Jesse and I have no idea what people are on about saying we couldnt transfer him for 20m. He would do better in a more possession-oriented system, playing more centrally though IMO. How we play now is not really to his strengths, regardless which position he is asked to fill.
I'm not shocked no, Sandro is one of the best in the world in that position. Lingard is not. The fact we need a proper RW isn't something new, we've needed one for best part of 10 years
Yeah, you got me there, it's the first time I've seen Sandro, and I'm shocked that our number 10/winger is a worse attacker than him. Maybe you should be also.
Sandro is one of the best in the world in his position of LB. Our attacker Lingard who should be providing goals and assist not being of the same footballing talent is shocking and laughable. However you put it, no matter where he plays, he is an average football player, and one of the main reasons why we are poor in scoring goals is exactly that. Average footballer played in crucial position in our attack. That can be affordable if we were some lesser club, but we are not. Lingard is not good enough neither as a RW nor anywhere else to be fair.
If you are going to start claiming things like this, then you have to also go the other way to be fair.
As a full 90 minutes today, with him in there, it was a far better performance than any other 90 minute match we've played while he was injured. Every single match while he was injured we played like absolute trash in the first half. Every match it's actually been embarrassing how bad we've been in the first half. We've been entirely reliant on coming out and being able to turn it around in the second half, and thankfully we've done that in the last five matches. This match against Juventus was the first time since he got injured that we actually played decently well for a full match (barring the 10 minute period directly after their goal).
Do I actually think having him in there is what changed that fact and allowed us to have an acceptable first half? No. But I also don't agree with your claim of us supposedly starting to play well because he was out of the team, so it's only fair to make the counter-claim.
Man City 3:1 Man Utd
Disgrace of a player. How the hell he gets starts at this club I'll never know.
These funny ass instagram posts are all this guy is ever doing.
That's his own level. He's terribly average and nothing player. It's our fault that we're starting him not his tbh.
Fraud fraud fraud.
Can't even do the basic pass. Rather play Romero than him
Can't even do the basic pass. Rather play Romero than him
He can feck off back to JD for all I care.
JLingz
Just lacks the talent to play for a club like United. He only earns 100k a week because he is a 'local lad' but if he played for Bournemouth nobody would want him at Manchester United.
Just lacks the talent to play for a club like United. He only earns 100k a week because he is a 'local lad' but if he played for Bournemouth nobody would want him at Manchester United.
He has lost confidence and is offering nothing at the moment. Great abs at least.
He's a nothing player, the fact that he plays for us regularly reflects incredibly poorly on Jose. Aside from running around a lot he has no useful skill on the ball.
Really stealing a salary from us.
Mediocrity incarnated and rewarded
100k my arse. Cant wait till he feck off.
Just like Jones, surely he cannot believe his luck he is still a Manchester United player.
For those posters that ridiculed me during his 1 month purple patch. I said let’s see him do it consistently. Well he does do it consistently but what he does is what he has done for his entire career and that is waste a shirt. Get shut.
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