Yeah, over the last decade if it wasn't for City, they'd have cleaned up with an extra 2 PL trophies.
Except that a certain other north west team that play in red would also have an extra 2 PL trophies.
Jurgen Klopp Sack Watch
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Except that a certain other north west team that play in red would also have an extra 2 PL trophies.
Klopp out!
Almost reminiscent of the Fergie years, if Fergie had only won 1 PL title at United.So many salty tears in here.
Almost makes me feel nostalgic for the years when we were completely bobbins and spent our lives on rawk furiously frothing over Sir purple nose’s every utterance during our own boom-bust cycles
Look at this guy trying to compare Klopp to Sir Alex Ferguson!So many salty tears in here.
Almost makes me feel nostalgic for the years when we were completely bobbins and spent our lives on rawk furiously frothing over Sir purple nose’s every utterance during our own boom-bust cycles
That's not what I'm saying. Obviously. Why are you all so touchy about a small built of criticism?
My theory is he's just a prick.
Definitely but this season he's gone up a notch. Been worse than usual.
Difference is not many United fans wasted our time joining RAWK during those 13 titles trying to give it the biggun because the sensitive souls there would have banned us.So many salty tears in here.
Almost makes me feel nostalgic for the years when we were completely bobbins and spent our lives on rawk furiously frothing over Sir purple nose’s every utterance during our own boom-bust cycles
Apples to bicycles comparison here, not even remotely associative.So many salty tears in here.
Almost makes me feel nostalgic for the years when we were completely bobbins and spent our lives on rawk furiously frothing over Sir purple nose’s every utterance during our own boom-bust cycles
And look at you now at your absolute peak, playing second fiddle to City over the years.So many salty tears in here.
Almost makes me feel nostalgic for the years when we were completely bobbins and spent our lives on rawk furiously frothing over Sir purple nose’s every utterance during our own boom-bust cycles
People naturally get grumpier as they age.
Firstly, he may be a prick. I don’t know him.
However, the evidence from those who have played for him wouldn’t support this view. At three clubs he’s built a strong, positive culture by cultivating strong relationships and fostering a sense of collective spirit and responsibility. Lots of evidence to support this.
That said, other factors are at play when assessing the character of a football manager. A key one being whether you like the club he manages. Inevitable hostility will emerge if it’s a rival with added hostility thrown in if he’s successful. Added to this is longevity - dislike grows over time, usually deepening your dislike.
Through this prism of hostility, you’ll then perceive every act with a certain disdain and resentment. It’s quite normal. By contrast, fans of the team he manages will see these same characteristics as being part of his job. Representing the club’s interests with vigorous and front-foot positivity that gives everyone something to rally around. Us against the world, etc.
It’s how tribalism works. But it’s all a bit cartoonish and none of it is a genuine exploration into a person’s character.
The obvious example is Ferguson. Opposition fans disliked his relentless attempts to intimidate opposing managers, his mind games or seemingly influencing officials. A person who many thought to be a hardcore bastard. United fans loved him - obviously.
Yet players ran through walls for him and he clearly had a character and personality that went way beyond the version presented to the media.
In short, it’s all a bit fake and name calling is nothing more than tribal identity.
Chelsea players ran through walls and don't have a bad word for Jose. Very few players don't develop a bond with a long term manager.
What's long term about the guy, who burned out within three (more like two!?) years at just about every club he ever coached?
Still an enormous twat. And that's not sour grapes, I just had no idea from his Dortmund what a sore loser tit this cnut was. Every time his team drop points its not a bad result for Liverpool, its a crime against football.
I've thought he was a prick since his Dortmund days. His time at Liverpool hasn't changed that perception.
I don't dislike Klopp because I don't know him. But to me he's just always came across as a bit of a wanker who's up his own hole and loves the sound of his own voice.
3 years is like decade for Chelsea manager.
That all seems perfectly fair
I’m not sure if you agree or disagree here. But José is a classic example of a cartoonish public persona.
we can add grooming kids to the charge sheet.
Yes this officially organised club PR shoot is the best reflection of what he is really like as a person.
Precisely!! The response I was hoping for.
This is my whole point. We’re reacting emotionally to the content that suits our preconceived ideas. It’s all a veneer. It’s cosmetic, surface-level insight…just like the version of the person we see for 90 minutes a week (often much less).
Yet, here we are…making strong-willed assessments about character and personality.
We should at least acknowledge that we know very little about these people.
He acts like a dick constantly, talks to journalists and pundits like a wanker and berates the match officials. I think it’s fair to judge him on that. Blokes a class A bellend.
Absolutely. Spot on.
Klopp's a massive sore loser but if you hear him talk about non Liverpool related things he usually speaks really well and is on the right side of each argument.
What a pleasant person you must be. Even if it’s PR it’s a gesture most normal civilized people would think was a nice thing for the kid. People being cynical about things like this really is disturbing . I couldn’t imagine people talking or associating with others who feel so cynical about decent gestures.
Dear god what a load of pearl clutching bollocks. Give your head a wobble.
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For the most part I think klopp is decent but he's a terrible asshole when things don't go his way, same as Jose, pep sir Alex honesty. It's part of what makes them winners.
There are dozens of things to have a go at Klopp about, making some kid's day isn't one of them.
Is the correct answer. Gets away with it most of the time too. Has he been suspended at all this season like ETH and Arteta have been ?
I think Klopp is still a good guy it's just Liverpool that brings the worst out of him. We've seen it happen to many good people.
Well if Klopp retires today and Jose also retires. Jose would still be considered a better manager.
Well arteta deserves to be suspended even more for his childish behavior. He is worse than Klopp
he was a giant cnut at Dortmund too
This is quite irritatingly so.
Did you quote the wrong post by mistake?
If bringing out the worst is Klopp giving back to the community, speaking out against VAR, speaking out against the right, being the most outspoken mgr against the super league, and being the adult in the room during coronavirus then I can live with the sideline antics and rants anytime.
That'll likely still be the case regardless of when Klopp retires.