prarek
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Henceforth, every time a players scores a late winner, i shall refer it to as 'doing the Ramos'.
That's the thing. You are using the fact it was a monumental bottle job by PSG to dismiss the ref from the equation. You want to get rid of the context.Just because Barcelona dressed as Real Madrid that day it doesn't diminish the performance. Neymar was superb and the team made the best of their chances, pointing at the ref in a 6:1 performance seems even worse
Is it true that Monchi can go to Madrid this Summer?Madrid don't have a plan from a long time.
Even if they win the feeling is not good.
I think that Florentino is going to do a good cleaning this summer.
The press of Sevilla writes that he wouldn't go to Madrid, pointing England or Roma as the destinations but according to Madrid press Florentino has been looking for a director of football and could use Monchi for the elections(although he won't have competence).Is it true that Monchi can go to Madrid this Summer?
Sevilla's director of football.For the uninformed like myself, who is Monchi?
Nice of Messi to give him the day off after bailing them out a few days earlier.I have been reading that this is the third consecutive year that Neymar is "injured" in the weekend of Rafaela's (his sister) birthday party
The story i heard was that for the past 2 years he accumulated 5 yellow cards a week before his sister's birthday so he can get suspension and celebrate her birthday but this year he has no card accumulation and is now mysteriously injured.I have been reading that this is the third consecutive year that Neymar is "injured" in the weekend of Rafaela's (his sister) birthday party
The story i heard was that for the past 2 years he accumulated 5 yellow cards a week before his sister's birthday so he can get suspension and celebrate her birthday but this year he has no card accumulation and is now mysteriously injured.
Indeed. Any team with a young quality keeper with CL credentials is looking nervously on every time Navas messes up.Navas is gone for sure in the summer. The only question is who his replacement will be.
There will be an election at Madrid this summer. One of the hottest names, in order to win votes, could be Monchi. Although, I personally believe Roma would have been perfect for him. The job in Sevilla is to replace the squad with players who need 1-2 years before they achieve stardom status. At real they need to achieve it right away, there is a risk that he would be in way over his head at Madrid...Is it true that Monchi can go to Madrid this Summer?
? If anything, Perez has been quite good on the transfer market. Di Maria, Özil and Ramos tried to use their power over Real Madrid, and Perez put his foot down everytime - and won all three times.If only somebody bothered to teach Marcelo how to defend
Anyways, Monchi won't come. No way Flo doesn't meddle and Monchi has gone on record saying he wants full authority on the job. Flo's probably running unopposed anyways since he changed the club's statutes in such a way that there's nobody who can run against him anymore...
Flo really needs to just focus on the financial part, hire a good DoF and leave the football to him. We're Real Madrid ffs, we can't be hostage of our players popularity
No, he won nothing. Di Maria didn't sell shirts and Perez had wanted to sell him for a while. Ozil -again, didn't sell much and with Isco and Bale just signed, we needed money. His father made it easier.? If anything, Perez has been quite good on the transfer market. Di Maria, Özil and Ramos tried to use their power over Real Madrid, and Perez put his foot down everytime - and won all three times.
That is not true at all. Ramos tried to use Man utd, and eventually settled with the initial offer. Di Maria wanted Cristano Ronaldo money - which was outrageous considering his lack of consistency. One great spring doesn't cover his extremly poor 'worst performances'. Özil played poorly, and either him or Di Maria where on their way out of the club, but eventually Özil's father made it easier, hence why Di Maria stayed that season, and continued to get booed out at the Bernarbeu that autumn. You really believe Real Madrid missed Özil and Di Maria considering the aftermath?No, he won nothing. Di Maria didn't sell shirts and Perez had wanted to sell him for a while. Ozil -again, didn't sell much and with Isco and Bale just signed, we needed money. His father made it easier.
Sergio Ramos got the contract he wanted.
What i meant by that is, we can't stay tied to cristiano, bale, james, modric just because they bring in money. Likewise, we can't sign galacticos we don't need just because of the money they would bring. Basically, we need to abandon the motivation behind Florentino's policy, and we need a competent football man to call the shots. I mean, both the spanish and english media keep mentioning hazard...what would we do with hazard exactly? Unless Cristiano moves permanently to CF, where would we play him?
I guess Raiola is gonna try to sell Donnarumma to Real.Navas is gone for sure in the summer. The only question is who his replacement will be.
No, he got what he wanted.That is not true at all. Ramos tried to use Man utd, and eventually settled with the initial offer.
Uh? No. My point was Flo wanted to sell them for reasons that had nothing to do with football, and he sold them. Di Maria asked to earn as much as Bale with the aim to get €6/7M after tax. Perez took the chance to boot him out and make him out to be a mercenary only interested in money.Di Maria wanted Cristano Ronaldo money - which was outrageous considering his lack of consistency. One great spring doesn't cover his extremly poor 'worst performances'. Özil played poorly, and either him or Di Maria where on their way out of the club, but eventually Özil's father made it easier, hence why Di Maria stayed that season, and continued to get booed out at the Bernarbeu that autumn. You really believe Real Madrid missed Özil and Di Maria considering the aftermath?
Because he was not ?! Di Maria was not the victim here, (and he was not a victim at United either). Whether you believe that he booted him because of his shirt sales or what not, that is your standpoint, I am not gonna argue against it. It is true that Perez look at the financial aspects of signings/players (as the signing of James), but the decisions of getting rid of Özil and Di Maria were there own faults, it was their ego, one's father, etc. And look at Di Maria now. Real won CL again, the myth of Di Maria got ruined in England, and now he is part of the best bottling job in the history in Paris. When keepin' it real goes wrong.No, he got what he wanted.
http://www.abc.es/realmadrid/noticias/20150811/abci-cronologia-ramos-acuerdo-201508101847.html
Uh? No. My point was Flo wanted to sell them for reasons that had nothing to do with football, and he sold them. Di Maria asked to earn as much as Bale with the aim to get €6/7M after tax. Perez took the chance to boot him out and make him out to be a mercenary only interested in money.
Well, now we are pretty much saying the same thing. Özil never perform accordingly (as his father suggested) and he was coming off as a crybaby since he could not cope with the competition in the midfield, since Isco had arrived there as well.With Ozil it was something similar, although with him it was less Flo not liking him and more the club needing the money and Ozil's father pissing off Flo
It's not just that, if we look at what Florentino had in the last 9 years some people will find comfort in winning 2 UCL, other would think this team missed yet another oportunity to create a legacy as big as the Pep team or Di Stefano'sThat is not true at all. Ramos tried to use Man utd, and eventually settled with the initial offer. Di Maria wanted Cristano Ronaldo money - which was outrageous considering his lack of consistency. One great spring doesn't cover his extremly poor 'worst performances'. Özil played poorly, and either him or Di Maria where on their way out of the club, but eventually Özil's father made it easier, hence why Di Maria stayed that season, and continued to get booed out at the Bernarbeu that autumn. You really believe Real Madrid missed Özil and Di Maria considering the aftermath?
Yeah I'm not saying that at the time those decisions were awful, I try to say that the reasons behind Florentino taking those decisions are not always squad-related, his pettiness or personal relationships weight more than they should. We all knew Sneijder was a hell of a player even if his mental state was wrecked, but selling him to take a chance with Kaka? Absurd, and then taking another chance with Ozil (even Barcelona staff knew he was class, but some reports had concerns about his "head) seems even worse. This also happened with Robben, you sell him because he's injury prone, then have to get Di Maria to cover his place and then end up selling Di Maria at his best moment to make room for Bale, who has the same problem Robben had, what's the logic there?@Ishdalar A sidenote to your big, well written post; think Valdano had to do with Robben being sold. He convinced Perez that 'Cris and Robben won't work together' according to rumours, but that also would show Perez naivity to listen to Valdano/ i.e. selling Robben for a bargain price. Still to this day, that is a shocking decision.
I think they did the correct thing to sell Sneijder (despite Sneijders phenomenal year that followed), but the way Sneijder was forced out was unpretty and completely unprofessional of everybody involved. I really felt bad for him, and that is why it felt extra good to see Inter winning the damn CL final at the Bernarbeu.
Real Madrid has always been a soap opera, but for the first time since...ever (?), it is a wierdly calm - or let's say calmer - atmosphere surronding the club, probably thanks to Zidane, and that they are on top of the table, and still in CL.
IMO, the logic is to sell players at their peak (ADM was 26 when he left the club) and acquire younger players on the rise (Bale and James were 22 when they joined Madrid)then have to get Di Maria to cover his place and then end up selling Di Maria at his best moment to make room for Bale, who has the same problem Robben had, what's the logic there?
If that was the logic and assuming Ronaldo is untouchable (as he is the only player that can counter the effect Messi has for Barcelona) then Ramos, Pepe, Modric and Benzema should be out. They all had high bids for them either this or the oreviuous summer and they're not getting betterIMO, the logic is to sell players at their peak (ADM was 26 when he left the club) and acquire younger players on the rise (Bale and James were 22 when they joined Madrid)
InterestingYeah I'm not saying that at the time those decisions were awful, I try to say that the reasons behind Florentino taking those decisions are not always squad-related, his pettiness or personal relationships weight more than they should. We all knew Sneijder was a hell of a player even if his mental state was wrecked, but selling him to take a chance with Kaka? Absurd, and then taking another chance with Ozil (even Barcelona staff knew he was class, but some reports had concerns about his "head) seems even worse. This also happened with Robben, you sell him because he's injury prone, then have to get Di Maria to cover his place and then end up selling Di Maria at his best moment to make room for Bale, who has the same problem Robben had, what's the logic there?
For me the calm has more to be with external factors other than Real itself, they usually go for the best players in the world but right now, for the last 2 seasons market circumstances weren't right for them, players like Di Maria, Ozil, Alexis, Higuain, Costa, Agüero, Griezmann, Neymar or Suarez would be what they look for but all of them have implications Real can't or won't face. Beyond that you have Pogba, Hazard or strikers like Kane, if they failed to win the UCL last season I'm almost 100% sure one of them would already be there, but making place for one of those instead of Kroos,Modric, Benzema or even Ronaldo is something they'd like to avoid when the team had a successful season
Been having this thought all this season even when they were in their undefeated streak, the more Ramos has to keep saving them from losing a lot of "minor" games, the less likely he can replicate that in the bigger games. When he had that streak against Barcelona, a couple more teams and then Sevilla in the cup they ended the streak and had worse results than expected for a while. I really think you can only survive a certain games with luck, they needed it against Celta in the cup and they ran out of it, they might as well end up paying the piper for their luck against Napoli or Betis yesterday in the UCL next rounds or in the next clasico. Of course they can keep being "lucky" and win both titles but I really think if you live constantly on the edge you're most likely bound to fall downInteresting
True, that it is possibly more about external factors. And also, these AS and Marca reporters that like to turn on their own team, even when they could be winning, even they are bit calmer than usual. I can't recall Zidane losing his cool as a coach, he just smiles and say the most boring repetetive answers (as he should though).
Just like with Neymar scoring for Barca, it makes me conflicted with Zidane. Idolized him as a player, and he is probably my favourite of all time. So a part of me don't want him to fail as a coach, but I also don't like seeing Real Madrid being successful. For us who'd like to see Real Madrid lose their position, it is quite frustrating that they are made of teflon. Or that Ramos always bails them out. But then again, as soon as Real starts losing, the chaos will begin...
Good. Sorry.Eibar waste a big chance to close the gap on Bilbao in their race for a place in the Europa League.
Haha, what plot twist It would be a beautiful dream, despite Sampaoli at Barca. If we could - in the same sequence - also snatch Neymar, and pay all the dodgy middle hands that are involved in his transfer, then I would officially change my name to whatever people want.Been having this thought all this season even when they were in their undefeated streak, the more Ramos has to keep saving them from losing a lot of "minor" games, the less likely he can replicate that in the bigger games. When he had that streak against Barcelona, a couple more teams and then Sevilla in the cup they ended the streak and had worse results than expected for a while. I really think you can only survive a certain games with luck, they needed it against Celta in the cup and they ran out of it, they might as well end up paying the piper for their luck against Napoli or Betis yesterday in the UCL next rounds or in the next clasico. Of course they can keep being "lucky" and win both titles but I really think if you live constantly on the edge you're most likely bound to fall down
There's a solution for your conflict. Zidane fails this season and resigns (sacked really, but both Real and Zidane won't let that be called for what it is), Barcelona steal Sampaoli from you and you get to be managed by the man himself with Monchi by his side (like Marca are saying this week but with a Karma twist). Everyone would be happy, right?
Yes it feels like that. It wasn't just Leganes but you were lucky to escape with a point against Alaves with Rico making amazing saves despite the fact he made a mistake and then before that the derby you won by an offside goal where Betis were i thought hard done by, they created better chances and this a Betis team who have been horrible this season. Iborra said last week that the team was lacking in confidence. Not a good sign against Leicester who are probably the best they have been this season. It was be a tough game.@prarek I think the fans were provoked of how Leganes were better than Sevilla in every single way. It took individual brilliance from 'el mudo' Vazquez and Jovetic in order to score the equaliser. Other than that, Leganes deserved to win and Sevilla escaped with 1p. Maybe it turns out that Leganes performance at Camp Nou wasn't a fluke, they are really a frustrating hard working opponent. Alaves comes off as a similar team.
But overall; Sevilla have had a downwards spiral since the Leicester game. Have not been performing well at all, not even vs Betis. Which is ironic, since Leicester are going upwards with their form. So I am kind of worried about tonight. Fenerbache, CSKA Moscow...and Leicester?