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What? Evra was brilliant at linkin-up play all the way from his own corner flag to the opposition 18 yard box. Evra wasn't a great passer like Scholes, but he was very good at finding pockets and using them, and passing is as much about vision as it is about the speed and flight of the ball. At that, Evra was truly brilliant, and I actually think that was his best attribute. He was excellent at going both inside and outside.antoher think weird to criticise, Evra was never a great passer and Shaw had nice nice few passes into the channel today, Shaw looks more playmaking lefback than Evra who was always running up and down the flank, like typical converted winger he was
I don't think we understood each other, I agree that Evra was great at link up play and quicks hort one twos, but his long passing and crossing was pretty average, his low driven crosses were pretty good though at times but it's a similar story to Valencia, Shaw has a better potential at that as he seems to play more with his head up with good speed on the ball. Also his first touch and composer looked excellent so far for such a young player, Evra never really looked that composed to meal, more like a brave player going with his head down to tackles, the same going forward, truly using his speed and ribbling but Shaw only came back from injury and in his best games showed a bit of everything..What? Evra was brilliant at linkin-up play all the way from his own corner flag to the opposition 18 yard box. Evra wasn't a great passer like Scholes, but he was very good at finding pockets and using them, and passing is as much about vision as it is about the speed and flight of the ball. At that, Evra was truly brilliant, and I actually think that was his best attribute. He was excellent at going both inside and outside.
In his best games, Shaw was also quite good at mixing it up, but he isn't as agile and isn't as technically gifted. He has great top speed though, so once he gets going he can do the old kick and run trick which left Ivanovic for dead, for instance.
Btw, I'm not slagging Shaw. I think he has great potential and can be a great player, but he isn't very similar to Evra - more similar to the way I remember Irwin (though I don't remember him that well)
Yeah, think it was a confidence issue. He was solid overall but can be better, which is an obvious statement.He needs to do more in attack. We all clamor for him overlapping on the left, but there was 1 instance where Rooney had to tell him to do the obvious(overlap on the left).
No complaints defensively. Has to be better when we're in possession.
Give the lad a break! He had a really solid 90 minutes today having not played in months and I can assure you he was told to think defense first in no uncertain terms by "the man in charge".He needs to do more in attack. We all clamor for him overlapping on the left, but there was 1 instance where Rooney had to tell him to do the obvious(overlap on the left).
No complaints defensively. Has to be better when we're in possession.
x1000Needs to get fitter and sharper but better than anything we got on the left...
Noticed that too. He got away with it couple of times too as he was the one that cleared the ball but it might cost us against more organised teams.Does anyone else notice how he positions himself in the centre of the pitch in the opponents 3rd at times? I like it.
Thought he looked quite physically fit today but I don't think he would've got a chance with Jose otherwise? Match-fitness is harder to acquire.I really hope Mourinho does what Van Gaal did and get a personal trainer for him and have clear belief in him, like when Van Gaal said "this is Shaw's real season". He's so so talented, just needs the confidence back.
I would ignore most of those criticisms Quacky ... can I call you quacky? I mean ideally of course you want both full backs being able to "bomb forward" but not both going at the same time (exceptions of course). Fingers crossed Shaw regains the form to forge a relationship with Martial & or Rashford with the one Antonio & Mkhi are building on the on the right.By the way, Mourinho said that one full back was always sitting in defence and not getting up while the other was bombing forward which is always Valencia so I don't understand the critisicm of him not getting forward when it's the managers instruction.
Exactly. It can't be the instruction from Mourinho. Rooney would be interfering with the instruction then when he asked Shaw to overlap.His lack of overlaping runs at important moments (when the player in front of him is crowded) is worrying. I don't believe it for one second that it could a Mourinho tactic as some said in other threads.
Agreed. If he can get back to his level before the injury the LB spot should be sorted.Was ok yesterday, he obviously needs to do more. But its unfair to judge him before he gets a proper run of games.
I hope he plays against Hull midweek.
I think that is what Mourinho wants from his LB, his RB is the one who gets forward while the LB is instructed to stay back and form a back 3.He needs to attack more and get to the byline or underlap into the box.
Too many times he was static.
Too many safe passes.
Certainly he will improve, just hope it's enough
He needs to get a run of games and build his confidence.It's so strange. He had the potential to be the best LB in the world, he even played world class in many games before. Now, he looks like a shell of the player he was.
Can only be put down to the leg break.
That's just it ... in the first half there was no left winger or even left sided player on a consistent basis in front of Shaw. Sometimes it was Mkhi & at other times it was Rooney and at still other times Martial left the middle and came left (and on one occasion when he did, was given a great pass from Shaw btw).Exactly. It can't be the instruction from Mourinho. Rooney would be interfering with the instruction then when he asked Shaw to overlap.
But it's his first game after quite some time and he did well considering that. Hopefully he will get more chances to get his confidence back.