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I don't dislike Fellaini, just to me he isn't a top level midfielder which is what we should be aiming for. Nothing against him, yes he's not the best but his attitude and work ethic are without question. He's rarely injured too which helps.
when he does well the people that think hes shite will post, when hes not the people that appreciate what he brings will post.
To be fair, he said he was playing like an absolute donkey. And he was, for the first 20 minutes or so. He turned it around fully after that though and ended up having a good game. But early on, all he kept doing was giving away stupid fouls.
He only looks like hes playing like a donkey because hes Fellaini. he isnt judged the same way as others. But the point of my post is rarely is something negative said and then the original poster comes back and say ... feck hes no longer a donkey, hes actually rather good now.
He gives the manager more than one option. His mental strength is fenomenal, he is so loyal, so reliable to the manager and the team.
His contract is up 2018, meaning this summer he will have 1 year left (only because we took the option too, we didn't give him a new contract) indicates to me he will be let go in the summer if the opportunity arises.
Me too. Hope he's right next to Ashley Barnes for the 90 minutes.
City don't play with a big striker they lump balls up to all game, so not sure why you would want him to play the same role he did vs Burnley.
Yes he is. When he's been poor, he's gotten criticism. When he's done quite well though, he's been praised aplenty. Just look at the thread right now, for example, which has a number of posters saying he's been in good form.
He has been playing well most of this season yet when you see the comments after the anderlecht game first leg it is made out as if he is the sole reason we end up outside top 4 or something like that.
No mate Schneiderlin wasn't playing from November onwards because he had asked to leave same reason Depay didn't even make a sub appearance after November, Mourinho confirmed that in a press conference before Xmas that once a player asks to leave he won't consider them again for selection. Schweinsteiger asked to leave and even though the window was closed he still let him go which Mourinho also confirmed last month.
Why wasn't he playing before November? Fellaini was.
No idea maybe Mourinho didn't rate him at all and of course we have no idea when Morgan actually asked to leave. He was on the bench twice and played a 5 minuted cameo at the end of november but before then he actually wasn't even making the squad for over 6 weeks from mid september. So he might have asked to leave then, who knows.
You just said it was November.
Read again mate i didn't, i said he wasn't playing from November i never speculated as to when he actually asked to leave.
My initial point was simply that our manager clearly rates Fellaini which due to the fact that he's chosen to keep him at the club, plays him all the time and has even made him captain seems fairly self-evident. I'm a little baffled as to why you seem to want to have a huge debate about it.
This below was part of my first reply to you, i don't remember disputing whether or not Mourinho rates Fellaini. So you had my view on that, and yet you kept the discussion going which is why i was confused as to what point you were actually trying to make.
And this.
I don't mate you kept replying and diverting the topic of conversation, first you were discussing Fellaini in the Moyes thread which is why i moved it here, then you seemed determined to discuss Schneiderlin in this thread without making any real point.
I never really wanted to discuss Schneiderlin. I was talking about Fellaini and you rather strangely said that Mourinho has to play him because 2 other midfielders left. I'm assuming you meant Schneiderlin and Schweinsteiger.
There was nothing really strange about my comment at all mate. Whether Jose rated Fellaini or not is a moot point because Fellaini was the only midfield cover available to Mourinho as the other two midfielders wanted to leave and/or were frozen out by Mourinho. That was my point.
But that's simply nonsense.
Again you don't seem to properly read other peoples posts, if you go right back to my first post in response to you i was saying he couldn't sell him in January even if he wanted to because of the situation with the other two midfielders. I made no mention of the summer window to my recollection.
, so am i by the way.I'd throw that question back to you. If my quite simple initial point was that Mourinho quite clearly rates Fellaini and you agree with that why are saying that despite rating him he only plays him (42 times so far) because he's forced to due to lack of options?Again you don't seem to properly read other peoples posts, if you go right back to my first post in response to you i was saying he couldn't sell him in January even if he wanted to because of the situation with the other two midfielders. I made no mention of the summer window to my recollection.
So i've no idea why you are still waffling on and trying to argue with someone on a topic that they aren't even really trying to disagree with you on. You definitely are from Belfast
Because as i've said from from January it's been true and thats all i have said. You still seem to have a problem accepting that though.
and ask you to re-evaluate who has kept this now very tedious conversation going.
But what's your point? He was playing regularly before January.
Seriously mate come on how is this conversation still going on i've explained my point several times?
And i said:
There was my point right there in my first reply to you, he couldn't sell him in January even if he wanted to as we had no other cover. That was it, there case closed, lets move along shall we.
But why would you even think that there was any intention of selling someone who's been a first team regular since the start of the season and who the manager clearly rates in January? Seems a strange thing to say.
Yes, Fellaini is here because Mourinho wants him to be here. In August, Mourinho said "Marouane is a special guy for us in our defensive work". Also in August: "Because I told him just simply, 'Forget everything you read, forget everything, with me you don't leave for sure.' "
Mate i honestly don't know if you are on a wind up at this point, how did you even get that from my post? I literally just explained my point for the 2nd or 3rd time and yet you still seem to miss it, do i really have to explain it again?
I never went as far as Championship level, but have called him everything from an "industrial toilet brush" to a "donkey" to a "midtable player at best." And yea I don't really regret saying any of that after a few good performances. Happy he's contributing of course but still see quite clearly that, on average, he's just a silly wild card to throw at someone and see if they can handle it, and not anything that's enjoyable to watch.
Fairplay for saying it when he's in good form at least. And you're right, saying we won't miss pogba is a bit rich
I pretty much agree with this. Average player I've called him many a time, and that we should aspire for better, even as squad members. I stand by it. Have seen flashes of decent performances at times from him, but ultimately he'll usually go back to a lower level. Hopefully this time will be different. Hated seeing him booed that time.
Yea, despite my own lack of perspective with the way I criticize people on message boards, I can't imagine myself ever booing one of our own at a game. That didn't sit well at all.
