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Earthquake

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Lemmy has forsaken us....
I think there's a hell of a lot more we can expect from both Martial and Memphis. We aren't playing to their strengths and predictably they're both struggling.

They're both crying out for a 4-3-3 with a fluid front three like we did with Ronaldo, Rooney and Tevez and what Barca are currently doing. Neither can defend, just leave them up there.
SAF would have them bumming teams, sigh...
 

Eddy_JukeZ

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Poor. I just worry because he's been really poor against opposing full-backs unless they're minnows. He can't get past players.

I don't think he's suited to a possession based system though. He needs space. A lot of our players are the same.
 

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He was shit but so were all of our attackers and our midfielders were non existant which didn't help.
 

Adisa

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Like I've said through out the season, can't beat a man to save his life.
 

facund

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I thought the early moment and cross was going to give him confidence to bully Clyne but it turned out to be his only real highlight.
 

RedStarUnited

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Like I've said through out the season, can't beat a man to save his life.
He doesn't even try 90% of the time. All he is thinking about it turning back and going inside most of the time. Defending him is easy, show him the inside and he will take it and run into a bunch of other players.
 

Adisa

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Think he's a poor signing and we should make a decision in the summer. You can call me names if you wish.
 

Dobbs

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Like I've said through out the season, can't beat a man to save his life.
He did Clyne in the first 15 seconds. From that point on I don't remember him receiving the ball in a position where he could have another go.

I thought he did alright the few times he received it. Could have had a couple of assists tonight.
 

Litch

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Problems are treating than any single player. Aside DDG it's a struggle to suggest who's worthy of the shirt....
 

van der star

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Wingers are supposed to be nimble and quick and unpredictable. He's neither of those things. Even if he's trying to be an inverted winger, ala Robben, he doesn't have the necessary skills to do so. I'm struggling to think how he's going to be a success here if he carries on like this.
 

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And for someone who was considered one of the best dead ball specialists last year, he's been absolutely wank with his free kicks for us.
 

sunama

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Terrible performance.

His mini renaissance is already over.
Did his renaissance last 2 games?

90% of the season, he has been below average and I am not sure if he has the footballing intelligence to ever be a top player.
 

sunama

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It's ridiculous how shit he is at beating players and dribbling in general.
As long as he plays against sub standard players (like those from Midgetland or Shrewsbury), he is fine.
He dominated the Dutch league, by playing against lesser players.
However, in the EPL, against better players, he gets found out very quickly.
 

DarkXaero

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How many times this season have his defensive mistakes resulted in us conceding a goal? Crazy that a winger can be responsible for so many defensive errors but he somehow does it.
 

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Was always amazed at how many people listed him among the core part of our future.He'll improve but hell no.
 

Esquire

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Like I've said through out the season, can't beat a man to save his life.
Didn't watch the game so guess he's back to being shit. I agree with some comments here that he is ill suited to playing this ridgid and is much better with space on the counter attack. His lazy attitude is not helping either. Looking like a bust but guess we will need to give him until next January to truly find out. If Maureen does come in though he's probably looking at the bench.
 

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Was always amazed at how many people listed him among the core part of our future.He'll improve but hell no.
Was anointed the best young talent in Europe in the summer. :lol:

Rafael was sent to the reserves for much less of a crime and eventually sold in the summer. Wonder where he'll be send for the mistake last night.
 

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That potential break in the second half when he had acres of space ahead of him but couldn't accelerate clear of a guy who had given him a ten yard start was just painful to watch. He can't: run, cross, shoot, pass, dribble, tackle, defend nor attack a semi decent opposition. What's he really good for?

I am struggling to see what his redeeming qualities are at this moment in time. If £25mil plus gives you such a shower of shit, there really is no point in trusting the management with spending a dime.
 

Drifter

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Keeps on reminding me of Anderson in that i'm still waiting to see something from him but it never materialises .
 

iKeano

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George Best once said of David Beckham;

"He can't kick with his left foot, he cannot head a ball, he cannot tackle and he doesn't score many goals. Apart from that he's all right."

He must be spinning in his grave watching Memphis wearing the #7.
The kid is Nani in disguise.
His shooting is embarrassing, actually cringeworthy.
 

Nighteyes

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Didn't watch the game so guess he's back to being shit. I agree with some comments here that he is ill suited to playing this ridgid and is much better with space on the counter attack. His lazy attitude is not helping either. Looking like a bust but guess we will need to give him until next January to truly find out. If Maureen does come in though he's probably looking at the bench.
He's ill suited to playing for United.

Unfortunately his performances against the midgets and Brugge has probably earned him one more season of crappy performances at the club.
 

Mani

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This guys is lazy never even bothered to run even after loosing the ball,he needs some strong word from someone, lack of leadership in field doesn't helping it either.
 

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For me it just beggars belief how you can give up on him so quickly. He at least created two decent openings, a whole lot more than any other player in the side. He had very few, if any good opportunities to take on Clyne in this game. We just weren't working as an attacking side yesterday. He has shown he has pace, technique and has been working on his defensive side. He was put in attack in the second half, that's why he didn't track back. His instructions were clearly to stay up the field.
I agree with Scholes, it just wasn't a penalty.
You that give him so much flak, you really do deserve van Gaal's, no risk, non-attacking football.
 

montpelier

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Back to his usual level for me, credit for trying to track Clyne, bit unlucky(and Clyne dived) but was a pen = poor execution of the defensive arts. Better than some but still piss-poor.

I'd go to 4-4-2 and play him up front just to keep him out of our half.

Back to Holland in the summer, hopefully.
 

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For me it just beggars belief how you can give up on him so quickly. He at least created two decent openings, a whole lot more than any other player in the side. He had very few, if any good opportunities to take on Clyne in this game. We just weren't working as an attacking side yesterday. He has shown he has pace, technique and has been working on his defensive side. He was put in attack in the second half, that's why he didn't track back. His instructions were clearly to stay up the field.
I agree with Scholes, it just wasn't a penalty.
You that give him so much flak, you really do deserve van Gaal's, no risk, non-attacking football.
This. In fact, I think it would be hasty to get rid of most of our underperforming/disappointing players this summer. I think a lot of these players could offer something to a better system. We still need investment, of course, but I'm not willing to write players off because they've failed under LvG. Rooney can go though. With him it's more than the system, and Fergie saw it 3 years ago.
 

Perrick Dubois

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Wingers are supposed to be nimble and quick and unpredictable. He's neither of those things. Even if he's trying to be an inverted winger, ala Robben, he doesn't have the necessary skills to do so. I'm struggling to think how he's going to be a success here if he carries on like this.
Basically, he's a wing striker. He's not a natural ball carrier, he's not quick on the interchange and doesn't work well with his inside player and he isn't a very good play maker/defensive player. He basically has to have the freedom of staying on the fullback at all times having the game come to him and then be played through or be isolated one on one with the full back to cut and finish or cut and create off the dribble for a shot.

I know it is early days but I really want to see his maturity rise to the top after this season and go home and have a good look at himself and his game. There are serious holes at an elite level and someone who is essentially a striker coming in off the left in the PL is classed as a limited player.

I think he can improve, but more of that is probably me hoping he can improve.
 

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Basically, he's a wing striker. He's not a natural ball carrier, he's not quick on the interchange and doesn't work well with his inside player and he isn't a very good play maker/defensive player. He basically has to have the freedom of staying on the fullback at all times having the game come to him and then be played through or be isolated one on one with the full back to cut and finish or cut and create off the dribble for a shot.
You sum him up perfectly. He just doesn't have enough for the top level.
 

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Whilst he should be better, I want to judge him under a new manager with a consistent formation (much like with Morgan and some of our other players).

I do think we will see an improvement when Shaw returns. I truly do believe that. But mostly when a new manager comes in that can help him improve.
 
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