Pre-megathread caf was much better... excellent news.
Moving away from 'Megathreads'
- Thread starter Niall
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
I prefer the mega threads. After all regardless of whatever threads there are on the player, people will end up discussing the same thing on the player. Might as well go into one thread.
Yeah, fair point.
Makes sense to me, it will mean not having to trawl through loads and loads of posts in a thread to see if the point you want to make has already been made by someone else.
If a player plays well in one match, comments about him could go in the post match thread as well. If he starts a great run of form then start a thread about it.
I said exactly the same as you, but in a short form.
As @Rado_N said, adding extra forums is not a solution and what you describe requires a lot of maintenance from the OP of these threads. If you're looking for something particular, use search, it's pretty good now
Yes this applies to football forums only. I've updated the OP clarifying this.
I think this is a good call, looking forward to see how the Caf will "become"
Just as a matter of interest, at what point does a thread become a Megathread?
It's fairly standard for threads to go off at a tangent, sometimes eventually becoming a thread on some entirely different subject from the OP.
It's fairly standard for threads to go off at a tangent, sometimes eventually becoming a thread on some entirely different subject from the OP.
See the list of threads in my second post in this topic. Hundreds of pages in length that have been around for months/years.
A thread that goes off on a complete tangent should really be closed and the tangent made its own thread.
Good idea. As long as its modded, and people use their common sense, I think its better that way. At the moment you get four or five overlapping conversations about different things, just because it relates to the same player. Good lines of thought can get drowned out by two posters having a barney about something.
Exactly.
If you come to the site looking to discuss Robin van Persie's comments after the Olympiacos game, you have to jump into a massive Robin van Persie thread where there could be a string of different discussions going on at the same time. That can be very daunting/off putting for people, plus keeping discussions focused and on topic in those kind of threads is really hard.
This is an awful idea, the place is overrun with needless threads after poor results, all this is gonna do is flood the place with more junk
One word - moderation.
Two more words - common sense.
Some more words - members in the mains should be smart enough to make this work.
I've noticed that the needless and knee jerk threads don't tend to last long, they quickly sink to the bottom of the pile and are never heard of again.
Rubbish... if a thread is truly needless, it disappears quickly. Needless to you doesn't equate to needless to others.
Edit: What @Getsme said...
Good idea. Should make it easier to read what one wants without much search.
I honestly don't like this idea but every solution has its pros and cons, I have always preferred the caf in its megathread version than before their appearance.
On verra bien.
On verra bien.
ye, im not really a fan of this if I am being honest. Will require extra work for mods too because there will be spammed threads for the same incident as and when it occurs. However, we will not know until we try. Hope it works out
Good. I dint like the megathreads either.
Thank god. I was just about to reluctantly get used to them.
personally i found it more frustrating
what i used to hate was 2 threads about the same topic. Say you create a thread "RVP had a poor game" and i make a long post giving reasons why he had a poor game. Its discussed for a few hours/days. Later, that thread drops off the 1st page. Another user comes along and creates a similar thread then I have to copy/paste my response into the 2nd thread.
Its more work for the moderators. I dont think people realise that.
Megathreads have their uses, when used correctly. It should not be threads that are opened for years.
The success will depend on the sense of the posters tbf, you have some who will just spend threads arguing about how their thread is different to another thread because it contains the word "a" in it, completely changing the context...
Hopefully the idiots will be highlighted though..
Hopefully the idiots will be highlighted though..
I like the idea in general, but surely there has to be tolerance of a few megathreads? What happens when a thread gets too long? Is it curtailed?
Megathreads have always been used in my time so I quite like them. I like how you can flick back a few months, a year or two and see what was being said about the player at that time.
I'm sure the new set-up will work too, I probably won't even realize tbh.
I'm sure the new set-up will work too, I probably won't even realize tbh.
I dont know if Im remembering it wrong but this is how I remember things being when I first joined, you didnt get so many megathreads and to be honest I think it worked better.
Its gets culled like a badger.
Thumbs up. I argued against megathreads in the Newbs.
The football forums need a more dynamic feel and megathreads are sclerotic. I've always believed they drastically reduce the post count.
The football forums need a more dynamic feel and megathreads are sclerotic. I've always believed they drastically reduce the post count.
Some of this is down to the nature of forums... A linear set of posts with limited navigability (you can move up... or down). One possibility, for example, is to tag all the van Persie threads as such and then you have a "virtual" thread that collates all the threads together. However, this "virtual" thread doesn't exist, and you can't post into it, but you can quote someone.
Pie in the sky.
Anyway, one suggestion I would have is to have at least one mega-thread, for posts that seem too "small" to be a new thread. For example, a passing tweet, or a silly question. I think the transfer forum should remain mega-threaded, too, because there is no point in having one thread per player per oil-funded team (for example).
Pie in the sky.
Anyway, one suggestion I would have is to have at least one mega-thread, for posts that seem too "small" to be a new thread. For example, a passing tweet, or a silly question. I think the transfer forum should remain mega-threaded, too, because there is no point in having one thread per player per oil-funded team (for example).
Yeah, that's the way it worked when I joined. You could log on of a morning and immediately work out the latest news from the various new threads, then discuss that news in a dedicated thread - without trying to wade through some tedious argument that's been going on for months. The place seemed much more lively too. Megathreads kill discussion. If you fire up the home page and see the same selection of threads that's been there all week, there's no incentive to have a read through them and contribute.
It will be miles better IMO. More like it was a couple years back. I miss loads of news these days because of there being a thread about something in particular about a player it's just simply stuck into their particular mega-thread.
I agree.
Great decision. Mega threads are more organised but lead to repetitive and stale discussion.
It's a good idea in terms of getting more football posters rather than seeing the same people consistently. I think some people shy away from posting sometimes as in bigger threads your views can sometimes be lost and you won't be able to interact much which is what a forum is all about. Smaller threads will help interaction more.
I assume by football forum it means;
United forum/Football forum/Transfer forum
..?
I assume by football forum it means;
United forum/Football forum/Transfer forum
..?
I'm not sure if this is a good idea, would it not only make (for example) the issue of too many Moyes threads even worse?
Correct. The Transfer Forum will probably still have a decent number of megathreads as discussions about a specific transfer target can run for months and is best kept in one place.
Cheers Niall.
I think it is a great move. You see from time to time, posts and opinions get lost in a thread when an argument about a different matter is going on in the same thread. I'm sure it will still be modded, and we won't see hundreds of threads appear over night. And of course the core reason, not finding new and latest news in cluster threads.