ValenciaRocks
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But sir... this is a completely related discussion and ties in well with the overall agenda of the thread.Can you guys not take this to the Killing a lion versus killing a cow thread?
But sir... this is a completely related discussion and ties in well with the overall agenda of the thread.Can you guys not take this to the Killing a lion versus killing a cow thread?
Unfortunately, this is not the manchester United we know. The man utd we know would not entertain a spoilt brat knobhead like Pogba. The sooner he fecks off the better.Things have really changed. Maybe folks like me just need to come to terms with reality.
The Manchester United I know, it's manager power over star player power. The manager is the boss and that's final. Players bottle their issues or deal with them behind the cameras. They don't come out to say what Pogba said.
The Manchester united I know, wearing the captain's armband of United is almost sacred. It's like the greatest honour you can bestow a player in world football. You don't wear it and then come out to say stuff like what Pogba said. The United I know, the board is where managerial issues are resolved. Captains don't come out after the first game of the season at home when the team badly needs a rallying cry, to be giving cryptic, unsettling messages to the press.
It's not really the fault of the fans. It's that no-one trusts what they're being told and why should they? For what it's worth, Pogba's attributed quotes seem to make it more likely than not that he's trying to work an exit, so the flat earthers in this scenario would be the 'move along, nothing to see here' brigade.
What? Nobody in the media printed this.You just believe everything the media prints
How do you know?Martial was not fined.
The issue also wasn’t going home, it was that he didn’t inform the club of his whereabouts.
Oh, I'm sorry. His wife was sick after giving birth. He definitely should have just left her, then.Wouldn't you say that most 'reasonable' people have read the statement which Martial gave, where he explained very clearly that his baby was fine and it was his girl who wasn't doing well?
Cheers man, thats helped alot.
Because had he been fined, we would all know.How do you know?
No one said he should leave. He should simply inform his employers which he did not. Any employee would be expected to do the same.Oh, I'm sorry. His wife was sick after giving birth. He definitely should have just left her, then.
What is wrong with you?
God I loved LVG - I know he was deeply flawed as a manager, but the entertainment value was always high.Cheers man, thats helped alot.
Maybe that's why he's allegedly desperate to join Barca. This is probably his best chance to win the Ballon d'Or, with the World Cup trophy and a potential league title with Barca.If Pogba guided us to the title, what would Pogba's chances of winning the Balon D'or?
Except for the fact that I didn't say that at all.Oh, I'm sorry. His wife was sick after giving birth. He definitely should have just left her, then.
What is wrong with you?
Just not on the pitch.God I loved LVG - I know he was deeply flawed as a manager, but the entertainment value was always high.
Unfortunately, we're not as strong as we were under Ferguson. It's the reality of things.Unfortunately, this is not the manchester United we know. The man utd we know would not entertain a spoilt brat knobhead like Pogba. The sooner he fecks off the better.
I agree - we just need Pogba to do his business on the pitch. We knew what we were getting into with his agent, so have to take the rough with the smooth.Unfortunately, we're not as strong as we were under Ferguson. It's the reality of things.
We'll never get that same level of stability and success for us to be able to do the right things and have a zero tolerance policy on spoiled brats like Pogba, I think.
As such, we're forced to tolerate his nonsense and antics. I only hope we don't stoop too low that we start defending abhorrent behaviour like racism. Ahem.
We've already shown we have a zero tolerance policy on Pogba, when Fergie refused to give him the contract he wanted as a teenager, so let him leave.Unfortunately, we're not as strong as we were under Ferguson. It's the reality of things.
We'll never get that same level of stability and success for us to be able to do the right things and have a zero tolerance policy on spoiled brats like Pogba, I think.
As such, we're forced to tolerate his nonsense and antics. I only hope we don't stoop too low that we start defending abhorrent behaviour like racism. Ahem.
Sad, but true. Would love him in some kind of mascot capacity.Just not on the pitch.
Didn't he said "That Man".Custis is a twat, I need to see that video of LVG calling him a fat man for perspective.
Feck sake. You've just ruined it.Didn't he said "That Man".
Its his dutch accent that sounds like it ...
Heh@ManUtd: Jose confirms @PaulPogba will captain #MUFC on Sunday and says "I couldn't be happier with him than I am now."
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Martial was not fined.
The issue also wasn’t going home, it was that he didn’t inform the club of his whereabouts.
How do you know?
José confirm that Martial was fined.Because had he been fined, we would all know.
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Doubt it. We have a somewhat irrational bunch of fans here who would rather read more into an out of context quote from The Daily Mail or some bullshit from The Sun (a paper, which should surely be banned on here?) than listen to the manager or watch the actual games.That'll put this shit to bed.
Yes, we must find something. Something is hidden here. Why is he saying that, was he pressured, is he on the back foot, is there something which we don't see. It must be some evil plan of his..So if it's all nonsense and made up media hype and their relationship is brilliant, why has Pogba made these comments? It smacks more of trying to appease Pogba since slagging him off before has backfired and he's kicked up a fuss, either that or Pogba really is just being an asshole for no reason? I don't get it, something doesn't add up here.
I think Pogba probably did have the hump with Mourinho over what he said about the WC but they’ve had a chat and everything is cool again. So Mourinho is trying to put an end to all the drama. No need for any conspiracy theories. Obviously, we’ll need to hear similarly placatory words from Pogba before this finally dies a death.So if it's all nonsense and made up media hype and their relationship is brilliant, why has Pogba made these comments? It smacks more of trying to appease Pogba since slagging him off before has backfired and he's kicked up a fuss, either that or Pogba really is just being an asshole for no reason? I don't get it, something doesn't add up here.
Whatever the truth, I'm sure Jose's just keen to stop talking about this nonsense and focus on winning football matches. Some would call it being the adult in the room.So if it's all nonsense and made up media hype and their relationship is brilliant, why has Pogba made these comments? It smacks more of trying to appease Pogba since slagging him off before has backfired and he's kicked up a fuss, either that or Pogba really is just being an asshole for no reason? I don't get it, something doesn't add up here.
If Raiola gets his way there will be more quotes in the mix zone after Brighton, ready for the Monday morning press. As long as Raiola can dangle the carrot of Barca at Pogba I fear this will continue to bubble under the surface. Still, I'm pleased with Mourinho's decision to again try to diffuse the situation.I think Pogba probably did have the hump with Mourinho over what he said about the WC but they’ve had a chat and everything is cool again. So Mourinho is trying to put an end to all the drama. No need for any conspiracy theories. Obviously, we’ll need to hear similarly placatory words from Pogba before this finally dies a death.
I hope he does to just so I can post about it and apparently personally offend you some more to the point you have to make some stupid post like that to a post of mine that was valid, as in, curious as to why Pogba said what he said if his relationship with Mourinho is apparently fine and dandy.Yes, we must find something. Something is hidden here. Why is he saying that, was he pressured, is he on the back foot, is there something which we don't see. It must be some evil plan of his..
Jesus Christ. I hope some hack will publish some made up article to appease you.
You didn't personally offend me lad. Relax. Of course your post is valid, you want to see drama when there isn't one. Cheers.I hope he does to just so I can post about it and apparently personally offend you some more to the point you have to make some stupid post like that to a post of mine that was valid, as in, curious as to why Pogba said what he said if his relationship with Mourinho is apparently fine and dandy.
So if it's all nonsense and made up media hype and their relationship is brilliant, why has Pogba made these comments? It smacks more of trying to appease Pogba since slagging him off before has backfired and he's kicked up a fuss, either that or Pogba really is just being an asshole for no reason? I don't get it, something doesn't add up here.
Unfortunately, you will likely never get that deep insight into the situation you crave. None of us will. So we are left with all the hearsays and the comments from the actual participants. We just have to choose which ones we will believe and which ones we won't. It does make sense to just take the words of the participants for it. That will keep things simple and straightforward.So if it's all nonsense and made up media hype and their relationship is brilliant, why has Pogba made these comments? It smacks more of trying to appease Pogba since slagging him off before has backfired and he's kicked up a fuss, either that or Pogba really is just being an asshole for no reason? I don't get it, something doesn't add up here.
Personally, I think Pogba's been getting bad advice from Raiola, who's trying to drive a wedge between his client and Mourinho for his own financial gain. Jose has sensibly refused to take the bait. Neither Paul or Jose is leaving Utd any time soon, so I'd imagine the whole drama quite possibly ends with Pogba looking for a new agent.So if it's all nonsense and made up media hype and their relationship is brilliant, why has Pogba made these comments? It smacks more of trying to appease Pogba since slagging him off before has backfired and he's kicked up a fuss, either that or Pogba really is just being an asshole for no reason? I don't get it, something doesn't add up here.