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Protests following the killing of George Floyd
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Firstly, Bike Tyson
Secondly, ‘underlying issues’? He assaulted a young girl in site of a camera, those issues are overlying surely. . .
Hmm I thought you were on about the protests in the US.
You need study history a bit if you think mass protests are pointless. I think they have a right to protest and good on them but yeah I can see your point as well. UK is under lockdown yeah? I can understand if some people have the view that the lockdown shouldnt be defied.
\ These UK protesters very stupid, as virtually all UK police don't carry guns.
UK BLM need to localise their message, if it is to have further resonance. Else wont lead to any change in UK.
Thats the thing, as a society the UK is so far ahead of the US, watching whats happening over there, copying it and taking it to the streets during a pandemic, of all times, is basically trying to tackle ignorance with more ignorance
How do your family know what you post on here?
@amolbhatia50k if you are composing a further response to me, I have no intent on retorting further. I simply urge you to reread my posts and see that other people have inferred I called @noodlehair a racist, and I did not.
It's quite clear there's a group remaining who are intent to escalate tensions within in protest group to try and spark something with the police. They aren't there to protest, they are there to cause trouble. Powerful words from one protester on the ground who was calling them out on it.
Hope no one gets hurt.
Stop and search on black men is a controversial issue here and black people are proven to be discriminated against when it comes to sentencing. I think stop and search is employed because cuts to the police force mean that the police here have to use more crude measures. Personally I think we need a lot more police on the streets.
Deaths in custody are pretty rare here but black people are overrepresented in them, although the absolute numbers are so low it isn’t clear that there’s active discrimination there. Police shootings are even rarer.
\ These UK protesters very stupid, as virtually all UK police don't carry guns.
UK BLM need to localise their message, if it is to have further resonance. Else wont lead to any change in UK.
The protest I was at today was very much focused on institutionalised racism in all walks of life, rather than the police.
So that's rioters and looters you're talking about. Please don't throw protestors in with them.
I didn’t take to Amal’s at first, something about the way he spoke filed me but having actually listened to what he said he’s one of the voices we need to give a platform to.
I mean, discrimination is a horrible thing but it happens everywhere and all the time, and needs to be fought. I was just wondering where the immediate need to protest in the UK in such huge clusters came from.
All the US.
There have "only" been 53 killings by the UK police in the last 20 years. The last 3 have all been terrorists in the middle of attacks.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers_in_the_United_Kingdom
There is certainly systemic racism in the UK. There's also profiling done by the cops and the courts. But police brutality is not an issue of the same magnitude because our police don't benefit from immunity from prosecution like American cops do.
Good to hear. How was that expressed?
People are stupid in general and are basically like sheep. My neighbour went to protest? Well, I guess I should too. I am sure majority of them don't even know why are they doing it and what are they hoping to achieve.
So he just has racist views. Not a racist though. Gotcha.
Yeah, my bad. I thought you were taking about the US.
I understand your view but its very hard to pressure the government into addressing massive problems like institutionalized racism. Its not as bad as the US, the brutality in the UK but from what I've read in these past few days, its still a problem. For the first time in decades people feel like their voices are being heard. If they wait for the pandemic to get over, the momentum will be lost.
Speeches by black members of the community for around an hour about their experiences. Of course there was chants for George Floyd, as well as previous victims of the police violence in the UK, but I think it was a good balance.
Wow. You can't even have a different opinion these day without being labelled racist. What a joke!!!
It's also worth noting that a number of those within the 53 mentioned were killed lawfully. The link is good as it explains the circumstances and ultimate outcome.
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These days, if you say you’re English, they’ll throw you in jail
Doubt they're worth discussing or paying any attention to. Presume she's still full of shit?
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Or you don't, then end up getting 88 caps for Ireland.
For people complaining that the protesters should wait until the pandemic is over is either missing the point or being willfully ignorant of the very reason why it's happening right now.
The time for any such thing is extremely important. The murder of Mr. Floyd by the police is what pushed things over the edge
In 3 months time everyone would have forgotten it just like it has to previous murders of innocent people by the police.
That's why it's happening now. The protests around the world is going to have a collective effort in this change.
The time for any such thing is extremely important. The murder of Mr. Floyd by the police is what pushed things over the edge
In 3 months time everyone would have forgotten it just like it has to previous murders of innocent people by the police.
That's why it's happening now. The protests around the world is going to have a collective effort in this change.
Hmm okay. Like you said I don’t know you but I just found it convenient that you ID’d as white British up until it was time to do ‘I can’t be racist I’m half Black’
Please don't do that.
It's not just a protest about police brutality for one. But if we want to talk about the UK. There has still been no justice for:
Julian Cole
Christopher Adler
Sarah Reed
And others
Separately, there is also a push to push for criminal charges in the case of Belly Mujinga
If you are not part of the protest or organising the protests in the UK then please don't speak on their behalf about that they are protesting about. Take the time to listen to what they are saying first.
Hopefully this can quickly take more precedence within the UK narrative, else it's largely misplaced. Thanks for pointing out.
De nos jours, vous ne pouvez même pas parler anglais!
Do half the people there even know what this protest is about. Is about george floyd? Is it about police brutally in the U.S? Or police brutally in the uk? Or all of the above? I'm confused.
I’d question the accuracy of that source, just browsing through it I can spot one omission that I know of, so I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s others that have been left out.
Its an anti-racism protest. So includes all of what you mentioned and some more too.
Okay cheers.
I attending in London and it was a peaceful protest. In fact it only kicked off later on when most people had started leaving. That also coincided with when the police presence increased. Many people protested at Parliament square and marched down to the US Embassy without any issues or problems.
Another perfect example of why "All lives matter" is dumb to say right about now.
Just an explanation on that but with protests the very little violence there is tends to take place as the evening wears on and as most of the law abiding protestors leave. That is why the police presence increases. Its no coincidence.
The protests are not only about black lives anymore. It's more about police brutality for everyone as what they are doing to everyone of all races. The catalyst was the murder of Floyd.
There are many white politicians in the USA who had tried to change and put checks on the police but the police unions are so strong they get rid of these politicians or scare them. In once case in an area they started not to attend any 911 calls. The only way any change can be brought is at federal level. When you have Trump they know they have someone who is a huge supporter of their brutal authoritarian ways.
So these protests are one way of putting pressure on the law makers to bring in laws to protect the general public.
There are many white politicians in the USA who had tried to change and put checks on the police but the police unions are so strong they get rid of these politicians or scare them. In once case in an area they started not to attend any 911 calls. The only way any change can be brought is at federal level. When you have Trump they know they have someone who is a huge supporter of their brutal authoritarian ways.
So these protests are one way of putting pressure on the law makers to bring in laws to protect the general public.
Why on earth were horses even necessary here? It trampled over a woman afterwards as well.