Not a Souness fan and not the brightest thing to say, but this is a little bit PC gone mad
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Not aiming, just commenting. If you don't think it's relevant then don't pay it any mind. From what I saw on twitter it was similar to here on Redcafe just more angry; mostly people reacting to a reaction that either wasn't there or was mild. Basically no one cares about what Souness said, but a lot of people care about people caring about what Souness said. Then suddenly it's PC gone mad because people are fighting ghosts.
If people suggesting souness could've worded things differently or read the room a bit better are snowflakes, what are the people absolutely enraged at the suggestion?
Wtf does this even mean.
That people really angry at what a very small minority have suggested in a very soft way, are in fact, the real snowflakes.
I mean the fact there's a discussion is a bit ridiculous to me. Souness has said worse more often about Pogba, if someone wants to complain.
Just a bit of a joke given everything else that's going on in the world. That's just my opinion.
I don't see anyone trying to "cancel" souness, as the cool kids say. Some people have pointed out it's a bit odd and he could've said the same thing using a different expression. The reaction to that suggestion seems to be 10x stronger, and for me that is the really ridiculous bit, some people seem to be taking it almost personally. PC gone mad, snowflakes, the left bla bla bla, it's completely over the top.
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As shite as he is, absolutely no reason to apologise for his comments. Worlds gone mad 
Are people really moaning at Souness watching a man's game and saying...it's a man's game?
Its a hilarious clip just for that Karen Carney's face after.
Its a hilarious clip just for that Karen Carney's face after.
Agreed. But the world is bigger than our group of friends. And the outrage about it clearly shows many do care. Whether they should is a different point altogether.
I kinda find its verdict to be too western oriented and historically misguided if I'm being honest , outrage machines always existed the difference in my opinion is simply the advent of the social media, we're not in a hyper politics age, we're in the social media age.
What outrage are you referring to?
PC gone mad. He said nothing wrong.
Clearly meant it as in it was like an old school game... bite between the managers, tackles flying in, ref letting things go etc.
Clearly meant it as in it was like an old school game... bite between the managers, tackles flying in, ref letting things go etc.
That's why he hasn't apologised. He just clarified what he meant and it's fair enough. I don't expect there to be any repercussions at all.As shite as he is, absolutely no reason to apologise for his comments. Worlds gone mad
Although it has highlighted a worrying amount of men who are angered by the 'woke tokenism' of women talking about football on the telly.
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Absolutely disgraceful by Souness that he didn’t mention Pogba.
Check Twitter and the rest of the comments here defending Souness against the criticism he's come in for.
sad to hear this......
Who the feck cares, jesus christ. It's obvious what he means.
As Bill Burr said, "They don't want their own shit, they want our shit".
I just watched that Bill Burr clip but are these serious posts?
I didn't mean it seriously. I was about 80% joking.
This thread is crazy, so many comments flying in about wokeism and what’s the world coming to, reacting to a reaction that isn’t there. It’s like some weird social experiment.
I’ve already written to OFGEM to complain.
I want him sacked. Far too many scouse voices on sky.
I want him sacked. Far too many scouse voices on sky.
That I agree with. It's like there's a quota that means there must be at least one ex-Liverpool player in any group of people discussing football on British TV.
The presenter made a kind of apology the first time Souness said it was a man's game. Then right before the end of the show Souness said feck this I'm going to say it again. He 100% knew what he was doing, wumming levels were admirable. He did nothing wrong imo. Nonsense people get upset over this shit.
Sometimes I forget I'm in the Football Forum and not the General, people here are wild.
Why are you pretending that bemused mockery and anger are the same thing?
If you check social media, read all the misogynistic rants in response to this and conclude it's just bemused mockery, then I guess you're the kind of person who interprets misogynistic rants as bemused mockery.
Bemused mockery just here on the CAF:
The world we live in now, "women's game" rammed down our throats, Sunday League, men vs women nonsense, triggered white knights, can't say men anymore, the world has gone mad, Carney completely out of her depth, our fathers would be crucified, oversensitive primadonnas empowering the other side, online purity scandal, Carney should feck off and not come back, women's football is garbage, women are less qualified, women talking about football is tokenism, don't want to listen to women, sad state of affair, who would honestly choose a woman pundit?, people are so fecking sensitive, woke wally, offended wokies.
People are taking it so hard that they start ranting about women's football, even about women talking football, and see the very mild reaction as a societal problem. They're using the phrase political correctness gone mad without a hint of irony. It's nuts.
I guess your not implying the poster is sexist??? The irony
Souness was clearly using an age old football phrase and did not intend to insult woman’s football. It wasn’t an intelligent phrase to use in the circumstances, but Jesus, give Souness a break. There really are more important things to worry about, such as homophobia in football or increased violence on the terraces.
I agree with him more often than not.
usually this is the case. the anti-woke crowd tend to be very unironically worked up at loads of stuff.
we all know what Souness meant, don't think anyone is denying that, but like you say it's hardly a massive deal to simply point out it's a little awkward sounding given who is sat next to him and given the events of the summer.
and on a wider societal point, using the word 'man' to refer to toughness and aggressiveness is nonsense patriarchal language in the first place, and does more harm than good usually. but he is a boomer i guess.
The posters are being sarcastic, British humor. They’re actually trying to explain that they think the phrase was a stupid one to use, but that it was an innocent mistake and that Souness never intended to insult or belittle woman’s football. It may not be the most intelligent way for posters to approach the topic, but I haven’t read poster who seriously disagrees with the fact that Souness should have used a different phrase in retrospect to explain he was pleased to see passion & fight on a football pitch (which woman are just as adapt as showing as men). Let’s all move on now.
Several in the thread are being sarcastic. I did not include them here.
I think people are also missing the point that “man’s game” has negative implications that have nothing to do with womens football.
We’re always told not to compare the women’s game to men’s as it’s different. So we were watching the men’s game, sourness was watching the men’s versions of the game too, not sure why there’s female commentators even if the women’s game is supposedly different, they’ve come from a different version of the sport.
Same goes for the female player (may have been a journalist I don’t know) on about ending the 70 year wait for England to win a trophy, they didn’t, it’s a different game.
Same goes for the female player (may have been a journalist I don’t know) on about ending the 70 year wait for England to win a trophy, they didn’t, it’s a different game.
Will you lot stop getting your knickers in a twist. Bloody blouses. It's a man's game... Unless it's being played by women.
Actually, if anything I would say that is the most worrying thing of the remark. As if its ok for the players & managers to set that kind of example. Some of the challenges back in the 70’s & 80’s were just horrific.