Evening all to you as well.Evening all.
Evening all to you as well.Evening all.
When you look at it like this you realise the Met are not the problem and should be left alone.Yeah, but there are worse forces than the Met. That's nice.
Other police forces have higher rates of sexual misconduct and racism claims than Met
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...xual-misconduct-racism-claims-higher-than-met
When you look at it like this you realise the Met are not the problem and should be left alone.
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Police have been doing what they want to ethnic minorities for decades now.Good piece by George Monbiot in today's Guardian. We really have given up everything.
The coronation arrests are just the start. Police can do what they want to us now
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/may/12/coronation-protest-arrests-police
I don't agree with that. We needed those laws enacted because we had too many minority interest groups taking the piss with their protests. The Met Police are just abusing those laws as they do many others.Good piece by George Monbiot in today's Guardian. We really have given up everything.
The coronation arrests are just the start. Police can do what they want to us now
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/may/12/coronation-protest-arrests-police
Police are facing serious questions and community anger after taking almost 24 hours to admit potential involvement in the pursuit of two teenagers, whose deaths sparked riots in Cardiff.
Kyrees Sullivan, 16, and Harvey Evans, 15, were killed in the Ely area of the city just after 6pm on Monday, minutes after CCTV footage appeared to show them being followed by a police van as they rode together on an e-bike.
The incident provoked a night of violent disorder, with 15 police officers wounded in clashes with local residents. Rioters claimed they had gathered to pay respect to the dead boys before clashing with officers from South Wales police.
On Tuesday morning, the local police and crime commissioner blamed the unrest on false “rumours” on social media about police involvement in the boys’ deaths.
But on Tuesday afternoon CCTV footage, time-stamped at 5.59pm on Monday, emerged showing a police van following an e-bike on Frank Road, about half a mile from Snowden Road where the boys crashed less than four minutes later.
At a press conference after the emergence of the video clip, Ch Supt Martyn Stone of South Wales police announced that the force had referred itself to the police watchdog over the incident.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...as-pursuing-teenagers-in-cardiff-force-admits
Yet another case of the Police lies. And if the CCTV footage had not been released, they would have got away with it.Police admit following e-bike before crash that killed Cardiff teenagers
Pretty sure this is just police terminology. Technically they were 'following' or 'pursuing' the bike simply by being behind them on a road. Even a super slow crawl along the road behind another vehicle is called a pursuit. @TheReligion might be able to confirm if this is true or just bullshit I've heard.Yet another case of the Police lies. And if the CCTV footage had not been released, they would have got away with it.
Bloody good job it was shown of the police van 'following' those young boys on the electric bike.
And the police claim that they are policing 'by consent'
I don't get it. They were trying to do a runner and crashed. Why exactly has that set off riots?Pretty sure this is just police terminology. Technically they were 'following' or 'pursuing' the bike simply by being behind them on a road. Even a super slow crawl along the road behind another vehicle is called a pursuit. @TheReligion might be able to confirm if this is true or just bullshit I've heard.
Regardless, the map in that article paints more of a picture. They weren't following them at the time of the incident.
Maybe it's because of my experience of folk on these bikes tearing up roads, swerving through traffic, going over zerba crossings when little kids are already walking over, jumping onto pathways almost hitting folk, tearing up the grass in parks that they drive through, but I couldn't give a shit about these two dickheads dying. They weren't little angels. I'm sorry, but feck them.
Because they're martyrs to a cause. The right to do whatever you want without consequence. Their noble families, probably all graduates from the University of LYFxoxoxox, felt it was their right to start burning cars. It may have negatively impacted their neighbours but I'm sure they never give them much thought at the best of times either.I don't get it. They were trying to do a runner and crashed. Why exactly has that set off riots?
That's a lot of hatred for literal dead children.Pretty sure this is just police terminology. Technically they were 'following' or 'pursuing' the bike simply by being behind them on a road. Even a super slow crawl along the road behind another vehicle is called a pursuit. @TheReligion might be able to confirm if this is true or just bullshit I've heard.
Regardless, the map in that article paints more of a picture. They weren't following them at the time of the incident.
Maybe it's because of my experience of folk on these bikes tearing up roads, swerving through traffic, going over zerba crossings when little kids are already walking over, jumping onto pathways almost hitting folk, tearing up the grass in parks that they drive through, but I couldn't give a shit about these two dickheads dying. They weren't little angels. I'm sorry, but feck them.
That's a very rudimentary way to take my point. Am I sorry for their parents? Absolutely. Do I think they were angels like the media have tried to paint them as? Absolutely not. Do I know first hand what these kids are like on these bikes? Yup. Am I currently affected in real life by folk like this and it's definitely affecting my opinion on the entire situation? Yup. That you could look at the things I've mentioned and not understand how those things could affect a person's outlook or sympathy just shows a lack of empathy that you claim I don't have. Maybe we're both cnuts, who knows.That's a lot of hatred for literal dead children.
Hotel? Trivago.That's a very rudimentary way to take my point. Am I sorry for their parents? Absolutely. Do I think they were angels like the media have tried to paint them as? Absolutely not. Do I know first hand what these kids are like on these bikes? Yup. Am I currently affected in real life by folk like this and it's definitely affecting my opinion on the entire situation? Yup.
Don't take my words out of context. You selectively missed out the previous sentences, hence why you're making it look like my point was a simple "feck em". I've already said that my own experiences negatively affect how I feel about folk like this.Hotel? Trivago.
Where are the media painting them out as angels? Genuine question ive not seen that.
"I couldn't give a shit about these two dickheads dying. They weren't little angels. I'm sorry, but feck them." you say rudimentary, but If you saw a similar post in the rolf harris thread, you'd probably think fair enough. This is literally about dead children though....
Nothings out of context, adding in they ripped out grass from a park doesn't make what you just said any better. I think you're struggling with the concept that these aren't gown adults, theyre literally 15 and 16. They are dead children. As someone said, regardless of the justification, it's completely heartless comments, also ill timed and completely lacking any sort of empathy. If you think swerving through traffic justifies those comments you seriously need to give your head a wobble.Don't take my words out of context. You selectively missed out the previous sentences, hence why you're making it look like my point was a simple "feck em". I've already said that my own experiences negatively affect how I feel about folk like this.
"Maybe it's because of my experience of folk on these bikes tearing up roads, swerving through traffic, going over zerba crossings when little kids are already walking over, jumping onto pathways almost hitting folk, tearing up the grass in parks that they drive through, but I couldn't give a shit about these two dickheads dying. They weren't little angels. I'm sorry, but feck them."
Not sure why you've brought up Rolf fecking Harris of all folk though
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You're right. I'll go and have a think about what I said. Any personal reasons I have aren't really worth feck all in the greater context of lost life. Apologies to anyone who was upset or annoyed by my words.Nothings out of context, adding in they ripped out grass from a park doesn't make what you just said any better. I think you're struggling with the concept that these aren't gown adults, theyre literally 15 and 16. They are dead children. As someone said, regardless of the justification, it's completely heartless comments, also ill timed and completely lacking any sort of empathy. If you think swerving through traffic justifies those comments you seriously need to give your head a wobble.
Understood. But remember. He said that there were no police in that area at the time of the incident.Pretty sure this is just police terminology. Technically they were 'following' or 'pursuing' the bike simply by being behind them on a road. Even a super slow crawl along the road behind another vehicle is called a pursuit. @TheReligion might be able to confirm if this is true or just bullshit I've heard.
Regardless, the map in that article paints more of a picture. They weren't following them at the time of the incident.
Maybe it's because of my experience of folk on these bikes tearing up roads, swerving through traffic, going over zerba crossings when little kids are already walking over, jumping onto pathways almost hitting folk, tearing up the grass in parks that they drive through, but I couldn't give a shit about these two dickheads dying. They weren't little angels. I'm sorry, but feck them.
Last line “The U.K. laws are weak and that’s not my fault”…. Oh how right he is and in 2023 that’s why we have a large number of teenagers behaving lawlessly day in day out. Terrible decision putting him on television too. Hardly a deterrent.Tweet
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I've said it in the other thread but I wouldn't be surprised if he's a right-wing plant.Last line “The U.K. laws are weak and that’s not my fault”…. Oh how right he is and in 2023 that’s why we have a large number of teenagers behaving lawlessly day in day out. Terrible decision putting him on television too. Hardly a deterrent.
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Absolutely shocked, I tell ya!!!I, for one, am truly shocked at this news.
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Undoubtedly, you see it in multiple industries.After watching a lot of TV, I reckon people like this are chosen for these positions because the people that put them there know and value the leverage it gives them.