Westminster Politics
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) was joined by comedian Ali Woods to look back at the best and worst moments of a rollercoaster season with the annual United Hour Awards.
Has Ten Hag been sacked yet? We're not sure and we hope not, but it's looking more likely as the days pass.
Who should replace him and why is it taking so long to make a decision?
I also read books with words.
Yes, I too was struck by the great breadth of views populating Gove's bookshelf. One could hardly say he isn't well rounded in his reading habits.
I agree. It's not the broadest range of reading material you'll ever see. But at least he is will to read books by authors he disagrees with, judging by his article in The Times.
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Glad we live in a democracy where people are free to speak out about problems leading to deaths at work without fear of being sacked.
Just watched the highlights of PMQs. Johnson's waffling not really effective without the noise makers.
I think that speech has finished Johnson in the long term. Beginning of the end for him.
'Astonishingly, this afternoon’s session will mark the first time Johnson has even made a statement in the Commons on coronavirus and only the second time he has turned up to make a statement on anything at all since this year. We’re also still waiting for his first appearance before the Commons liaison committee, eight and a half months into his premiership. More pressingly the PM has refused to give a press conference or a media interview for the past 11 days, and has managed just one presser since March 25, having been off sick for much of April. Aides say he will only take pre-recorded questions from the public tonight.'
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Has anyone mentioned the Russia report recently?
Er...
THE SUN SAYS PM has proved he’s an excellent speaker — but rhetoric won’t save our economy
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11592764/rhetoric-wont-save-economy/
THE SUN SAYS PM has proved he’s an excellent speaker — but rhetoric won’t save our economy
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11592764/rhetoric-wont-save-economy/
Tbf, he shags enough to be 007
I think some might jumping the gun a bit here. The current government ''strategy'' is no different than the one the tories used during the election last year and well it won them a massive majority. Boris and the tory party are currently polling at around 50% and have a double digit lead over the opposition party.
So far the British public are fully embracive of this shit show.
So far the British public are fully embracive of this shit show.
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So still only two formal investigations into political parties
They had said they would publish the labour one early 2020 so hopefully that drops soon and the racists can be booted out / prosecuted
the report is going to be a long list of labour members with racist or not racist next to their names
I wonder if the report will allow Starmer to remove Corbyn from the party.
Perfectly sums up the view of islamophobia with certain people on here. Completely ignore it and talk about the labour party and Corbyn instead.
Nice one lads.
Shouldnt you be on this bandwagon
Perfectly sums up the view of islamophobia with certain people on here. Completely ignore it and talk about the labour party and Corbyn instead.
Nice one lads.
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By the way do you agree the EHRC is an independent body and its judgement on this and the labour party investigation is to be trusted.
My comment was in jest.
Perfectly sums up the view of islamophobia with certain people on here. Completely ignore it and talk about the labour party and Corbyn instead.
Nice one lads.
Though there is not much to comment on. They've said they don't deem it suitable to investigate as of yet, but will monitor closely the Tory investigation and go from there (I do believe there are issues of islamophobia in the party, whether or not it is institutional however I'm not so sure).
Shouldn't you be on any other bandwagon?
Mate when I accuse you of disliking black labour mp's or being an arse towards socialist women in the labour party(''Corbyn in a skirt'' such a classy line) or actually not caring about anti semitism due to the constant shit posting of ''ironic'' anti semitic jokes, I'm using you're own posts on this forum, not just some random off twitter or the lefty you've made up in you're mind(Which seems to be a common thing on here now)
Yeah I would say it's investigation is to be trusted. No offence(Although I'm about to say something offensive)I'm not like yourself, I'm not some bizarre labour right doomer who doesn't give a shit about well anything. My politics isn't based off the single goal of bemoaning anyone who even attempts to give a shit about helping people.
I'm sure you're a nice bloke but christ you're political views are rotten.
I mean just a few examples - Senior Conservatives Baroness Warsi has said the party is islamophobic, the party has suspended party members for being islamophobic, the Muslim Council of Britain has asked for an investigation into islamophobia in the tory party. Also just recently -
Its some cheek for them to say they don't deem it suitable to investigate as of yet.
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I thought EHRC looked into it a year ago and said something similar that time. How long are the Tories allowed to kick this can down the road for?
Benefit claimants unlawfully short-changed, court rules
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Testing the water for a return to austerity, surprised it’s taken this long
Or its a very high bar to instigate action which is suggested by how infrequently action is taken. Corbyn's Labour party cleared that bar. You can't see what that means about the Labour Party because you are a supporter of Corbyn's labour party and the independent metric is pointing out that you are in fact "the nice bloke but christ your political views are rotten".
So not so much cheek , as you insinuating bias because you don't like the verdict. Its a bit Trump like if I'm honest. If this organisation had pulled the conservatives you would have defended its impartial nature to the bitter end and questioned the state of the party and called any mention of wrong doing in labour as whataboutism.
After all that noise, did the report about the Labour establishment even make it to ECHR?
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God I hope you didn't spend all night coming up with this.
Anyways at least you're not recommending me god awful youtube videos this time, so our conversations are somewhat improving!
no i don't think so.
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Labour lawyers chose not to send it - It has been leaked extensively though so the EHRC will be aware of it and if they believe it is relevant to the investigation they could formally request a copy
I think a lot of people in the private sector would take a 2 year pay freeze right now if it meant they kept their job - I actually would expect overall wage deflation in the Uk for the next few years rather than a pay rise
Pension Tripple lock seems to be a good starting point though in truth thats been on the cards for a while
Income tax yes Id expect that to rise as well as VAT, NI, Stamp Duty, Corporation tax and I fully expect the self employed to be put on taxes closer to PAYE... basically if its a tax its going to rise but this will probably happen in most countries anyway.
Id also expect inflation and ultimately interest rates to rise and we may see mortgages / rent prices massively increasing over the next 5 years.
So Austerity - not sure it will be comparable to the last few years as I think there will be big government injections of cash into infrastructure projects and probably some business sectors (eg exports and tech)
starmer flattened boris in PMQ'S today over horrendous care home deaths
Starmer: "You've been publishing comparison data with other countries for a solid 7 weeks, why did you suddenly stop yesterday"
Borris: "We are in an epidemic and keeping trying to keep it down. It's premature to compare"
At least Starmer got a reply in saying "well it's obvious you compared until UK became number 1 for deaths, then you dropped it"
Borris: "We are in an epidemic and keeping trying to keep it down. It's premature to compare"
At least Starmer got a reply in saying "well it's obvious you compared until UK became number 1 for deaths, then you dropped it"
Is that austerity? Isn't this the opposite - increasing public spending (furlough scheme, infrastructure stimulus etc), combine with tax rises? Seems that the current strategy is more Keynes than Osborne.
And I think most on here agree that getting rid of the pension triple lock is long overdue, given the intergenerational inequalities that have built up since the GFC.
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They really had no choice but to spend a huge amount of money with the lockdown. The promised extra infrastructure spending may still be on the cards but could easily still be dropped in favour of more austerity. They have a ready made excuse, after all.
To assume they have seen the light, is to give them credit which they have done little to earn.
In fairness it's just a 800+ page report about how the internal workings of the labour party stopped it from investigating anti semitism and also included cases of targeted attacks of black labour mp's.
I'm not sure why The Equality and Human Rights Commission would find any of this useful.
I'm not sure that's what is happening here. I'd say that's just a scenario paper and it's been intentionally leaked to make their actual position going forward seem reasonable in comparison.
It seems a common tactic both here and in the US to leak or announce something that will get negative coverage and then actually do a lesser version. It's those bullshit negotiation tricks you learn when you go on training conferences.
Agree. I just think it's an important distinction that the response to this hasn't been austerity. If the next response of the government is to switch towards greater austerity to pay down a ballooned deficit, I think that would be a dreadful error. Though I also think it seems unlikely, given the response so far, and messaging from the Conservatives.
If the Conservatives want to go down the 'austerity' route following this... I just hope this time Labour aren't stupid enough to follow their lead because there will be little appetite for it, even following this downturn..