it's refreshing. with other prime ministers there was always a sense that "this might be part of some broader strategy" when they were really just woefully incompetent. with truss, that illusion doesn't exist at all.
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Indeed. I posted this in December 2021:
Needless to day, her struggles thus far have not come as a surprise to anyone who has previously worked with her. She is woefully inadequate for the role she's been given. These radio interviews this morning are absolutely typical - listening to her speak extemporaneously on any subject is just painful.
The amazing part is this is exactly what everyone knew they were getting with her.
The issue isn't that she's less clever than prior PMs (although she undoubtedly is) it's that she's so unpolished and slow of thought she can't handle public exposure. Some of the above are standard answers really but she delivers them in a way that loses any trust.
Her advisers will prep her and it'll all sound convincing in her mind then she immediately drops the ball when challenged.
The issue isn't that she's less clever than prior PMs (although she undoubtedly is) it's that she's so unpolished and slow of thought she can't handle public exposure. Some of the above are standard answers really but she delivers them in a way that loses any trust.
Her advisers will prep her and it'll all sound convincing in her mind then she immediately drops the ball when challenged.
The worrying thing is the tories may bin her off before an election.
I'd much rather she be the one to contest it than say a JRM who may be able to salvage a tory win. Or even worse, return of Bojo
I'd much rather she be the one to contest it than say a JRM who may be able to salvage a tory win. Or even worse, return of Bojo
The silences as her brain scrambles for the scripted answers. Utterly out of her depth.
Don't see JRM ever running for leadership. Think he and the party know he's far too removed from the public and too much of a cnut.
I'd say that makes him very qualified in the current sad political climate
Ho-ly shit, she is so fecked
They will let her fall but it would be more entertaining if they taught her how to fill the silence.
Hello darkness my old friend.
BoJo is out there somewhere furiously jacking it to Truss on the radio, probably thinks he could be back by the weekend.
How thick do you have to be as a Tory member to vote her in against people like Sunak or Morduant.
Is she really the best the Tories had to offer?
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Thatcher cosplay and she said she'd cut their taxes which Rishi would not. Conservatism is a mental disorder.
She is the Prime Minister the UK deserves, but not the one it needs right now.
My point is in any new world where Labour dominate from the position of a strong government, they have to show the public what 'levelling up' really means and that doesn't (in my opinion) start with let's have a new Town Hall/Admin complex and oh yes throw in a few shops, maybe a college annexe etc do up the town centre, etc.. keep the locals happy.
Thats not 'leveling up'... I admit the Tory ideas are worse, but at least they realized this was behind a lot of the Brexit vote in the Labour heartlands, hence their success with the red wall collapse.
There is a chance with this 'rump' of a Tory government that Labour could win the next GE, if it's by a whisker then Starmer's hands will be tied, but if there is anything like a working majority, he has to go for it big time.
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That is because she is trying to find someone else to blame her mess on.
Regardless of whether I agree witb your assumptions on what a "left wing party" would have suggested in opposition, it is an irrelevance. None of these assumed stances by the Labour party would have stopped the markets and sterling from tanking after the worst budget in a generation.
Like I said it is purely a self inflicted wound, based on ideology, which Truss is too stubborn and blinkered to U turn on, regardless of opposition. In that respect she differs from Johnson who would have reacted due to political necessity.
This is reaching whole new levels of tragic. Something has to be done, and quickly. Her presence alone is tanking the economy, there's no recovery from it.
I swear I saw her in Pizza Express in Woking
To be fair I've never seen her sweat and I've read rumors about her being dry.
The cynic in me says they know she won't last any amount of time and they can get Boris back in.
That's embarrassing.
I think it’s more down to racism in the Tory membership, if Rishi had been white he would have beaten her easily.
Levelling up was a Boris illusion sold to try to convince those in the so called north that the Tories were on their side.
It is about as realistic as the 40 new hospitals. Both will be kicked well into the long grass as today's problems increase especially as government departments are and will be told to cut budgets.
I can’t remember who said it but it’s so accurate and I can’t stop thinking about it.
Liz Truss carries herself with the same energy of a contestant on The Apprentice.
Liz Truss carries herself with the same energy of a contestant on The Apprentice.
Lycett was spot on when he said the Tories are scraping the barrel of talent. She is an absolute liability. Dangerous times. Concerning that I'm now wishing we had Rishi.
If he had been rebranded as Richard Sunak he would've won.
How long before we see some bigger Tory MP's putting in letters of no confidence? After those car crash interviews this morning it can't be far away.
She. Is. A. Dis. Grace
Not sure how long she is going to last with performances like this but its hard to imagine he making it to two years
Two years? Its hard to imagine 2 months
at this rate yes
it seems down to if the conservative MP's will move against her - would seem crazy with such a sort premiership but a bad conference and who knows?
or will she have to call an early GE simply to stop them ousting her
Cant see a way currently for her to put a GE off till late 2024
Rock and a hard place. They know shes tearing the Tory party and the country apart but they also know that anything that would force a GE would on current polls result in half of them losing their cushty jobs and with that their side hustles.
If you leave her in place, they could end up in an even worse position for a GE. I think the most likely thing is that we see some self preservation and certain Tory MP’s will try to get out in front and be on record as the first to oppose her in the hope it saves their own bacon.
She's trying to do what Boris got away with so often, just kind of glide past difficult questions without answering, but she hasn't got the way of speaking and the mannerisms that let Boris get away with that.
The thing is, in Tory party rules, they can't oust her through no confidence motions and a new leadership challenge in the first year of her tenure.
So unless she willingly steps down after her own party turn on her, she could be there for a good while yet.
So unless she willingly steps down after her own party turn on her, she could be there for a good while yet.
technically the 1922 committee can at any point re-write the rules though cant they
If there is enough dissent, Starmer can call for a VONC which parliament votes on. At which point they only need around 33 Tories voting against her.
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Yes, there's no way they are going to let her carry on for too long. Trying to make her resign may be the first step.
We won’t see any juicy polls for a fortnight.