Ireland vs WI, Bangla vs Scotland, SL vs England. 4-5 scores of between 280-300 have also been chased. Zimbabwe fell 5 runs short of chasing 330 against Ireland as well.
ICC Cricket World Cup 2015
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Ahh two of the games had associates involved - and the WI bowling is virtually minnow standard. Bleak stuff.
So whoever wins the toss for NZ vs SA will be favourites for me. I still think NZ are a better team and am expecting a Aus vs NZ final.
SA have to be favourites. NZ dont handle high quality pace bowling that well and on top of that SA have the best player in the world in their team.
Hitting is becoming baseball like. Average players looking world beaters.
Glenn McGrath would have been slaughtered these days with his consistent line and length bowling.
I really don't see the point of 50 over cricket anymore. That said it's a cash cow. And it's shocking that a bloke has scored 200+ but no one's particularly arsed about it. And rightfully so. Give me a Wahab Riaz, Starc or Boult hurling thunderbolts at batsmen over this baseball crap any time of the day.
I have to disagree Sults. Wahab, Starc and Boult have shown what top bowlers can do. McGrath was such a phenomenal bowler. Even if he'd have been smashed for more runs, he surely would be among the highest wicket takers. If you're anything less than a world class bowler, you got no chance.
Agreed. The Indian bowlers have been excellent too, which is rather surprising. Seven matches and 70 wickets. Shami in particular has been excellent.
I'm pleasantly surprised by India. In the past Asian teams would not have coped with these fast tracks having served their apprenticeships on slow dusty wickets.
Did Gayle really say 'Welcome to the 200 club' to Guptill? 
Ah cricket, was introduced to it when I moved to England and since everyone was supporting Pakistan or India I decided to support Englan, turns out their Cricket team is even worse than their football one so now I just support whoever plays Pakistan and Sri Lanka mainly to make fun of them when they lose.
That's a controversial thing to say
Mcgrath was too good, he is one of the all time best. His line length used to be, though not at Lee's pace, at quite fast pace. Maybe he would have gone for few more runs, maybe his average would have been somewhat worse, but slaughtered? No. Guys like Morne, Steyn, Boult, Starc don't get slaughtered often currently. Mcgrath was very intelligent bowler as well. He would have adjusted to it I am sure.What have you got against Pak or SL though?
Haha I was together with an Indian girl and most of my friends in England were of Pakistani origin so it's more fun. As for Sri Lanka, I have one particular friend who's overly proud of his National team and it's fun to make fun of him when they lose. I remember India beating Pakistan and my ex and me were watching it in Salford surrounded by Pakistanis, when India won she starts celebrating and the only reason I didn't die that day is due to the fact that I was friends with the very large security guard (also Pakistani) who told us to leave and personally escorted us outWhat have you got against Pak or SL though?
Good times.
It is ridiculous. In the last 15 overs with barely any fielders outside the circle even mishits were going to the fence.
The rule with two new balls and the modified field restrictions are simply unforgiving for a bowler.
As I've already said, I can see no justification for retaining powerplays. Just play the game.
Bat first score big, scores that weren't possible a few years back, huge bats, loads of fours and sixes, hardly anyone outside the circle, flat pitches, two new balls, individual scores of 200+, opponents collapsing under the pressure of the chase. This appeals to whom, exactly? Let's be honest there's not much interest in the game in England, bastardising the game further won't create more interest. We're watching stick cricket.
That's fine with the rest of the world tbh.
England people seem to only care when their team is winning. Suddenly the interest will rise if England wins the ashes. I suppose the mood is low after the Ashes trashing and this debacle. It's the associates which the ICC needs to take care off.
Not sure what's that got to do with the current slogfest. Again, who does the current game appeal to? Funnily enough, I've read that there will be more Indians than Aussies at the semi final. Looks like the locals are bored too.
Your time to shine @Insanity
The Aussies have an absolute ton of major sport for them happening right now.
We have a billion people, so
Not all of them are in Austrlia.
People have lost interest due to the nonsense format and length of the tournament. The quarters were played to half empty stadiums. The ICC needs a major rethink on how the game is going and where they actually want to take it.
I was looking at Dhoni's captaincy records and he has played more than 60% of his ODI games against Australia and England. That is pathetic and shows how the three boards are manipulating the game.
Wellington was a sell out.
I presume the other 40% are all against Sri Lanka?
Was just thinking that
. Our every other series seems to be against Sri Lanka.Sorry, that was at home.
Australia 21
England 16
Ireland 1
Netherlands 1
Pakistan 9
South Africa 4
Sri Lanka 4
West Indies
TOTAL 63
And you are right, most aways are against the Lankans.
Australia 13
Bangladesh 7
England 12
Hong Kong 1
New Zealand 13
Pakistan 9
South Africa 10
Sri Lanka 37
United Arab Emirates 1
West Indies 8
TOTAL 111
That's 103 of the 174 against 3 teams; Australia, England and Sri Lanka.
70% of the SCG will be made up of Indian fans. Which is staggering considering the opponents are Australia (at home!). Similarly where were the Barmy Army? they were there in full force in 92, so why didn't they show interest this time around? I suspect ODI cricket is dying outside of Asia, (ironically Test cricket is suffering in Asia). So yeah a billion people in India, but international cricket just involving...well, India? Not only are we watching the death of the Windies but we're seeing the idiots in charge being incredibly myopic...by stopping the associates from playing at the next world cup. Criminal short termism. But heh dollas and all that.
It is getting a bit pointless now, it's just India and the money from it. Saturation levels really. I have stopped watching cricket a long time back, because it is just non stop cricket and the hype keeps on increasing despite average and downright poor performances
Let's face facts here. Cricket in test format was never going to become a global game to rival football. It's simply too long. Even if you have a bad football match, that's just 90 minute, where as even ODIs encompass a whole day. Watching a game just involves investing too much time. No wonder all this T20 stuff came up. All sports are driven by profit nowdays, 'promoters' will always give public what they want. It's not the type of evolution of sports one may want but what can you do.
Then once you have a situation where India is generating 70% of the revenue in cricket, there is simply no model possible to avoid domination by that nation. It is the same reason why all the best basketball players are plying their trade in US and NBA is the most popular basketball league in the world rather than any international competition of the same sport. We are moving towards a similar model. Indian audience will alone be enough to create all the revenue required so the need of spreading cricket to other nations would not even arise.
Eventually international cricket as we know, will cease to exist. You will have an expanded IPL style league in India where best foreign players who want earn mollah will be playing for majority of the time.
Football is the global game, cricket was never ever going to rival it or at the very least have a wider appeal. As for the IPL once the game dies out internationally, you'll be left with an IPL full of Indian cricketers.
Nah.. the core group of nation will always produce enough players to fill whatever foreign quota that may exist.
No chance.
I agree with a lot of your posts in this thread but I think the disappearance of the Barmy Army has also to do with the terrible state of the English ODI teams through the years. Funny that you mention '92, as that was the last time England won a knock-out game in the World cup. That was 6 world cups and 24 years ago.
As for the general point, I mentioned somewhere earlier in the thread that we'll see evolution of cricket into various IPL style T20 leagues. With Australia, England and India being the Big 3, like football in Europe with Spain, England and Germany, and the rest being smaller leagues. Actually, it is not a bad thing of the associates either. T20 cricket requires much less skill and perserverance. Planting your foot and htting through the line on flat belters with bowlers reduced to bowling machines on smallish grounds might help expand the game.
I won't like it, may be you won't either but commerce will prevail.
@Dumbstar
Forget all this. Are you tagging Dumbstar in enough posts?
I did in a couple of posts. He was a sport too and replied to them. Will do more in the coming days.
Yup, saw one. Fair play to him.
I did in a couple of posts. He was a sport too and replied to them. Will do more in the coming days.
Barmy Army has always given fantastic support. Plus, a chance for a piss up in Australia?! Whatever the cause, interest in limited over cricket has waned. Apparently, there were a lot less viewers (Sky) than expected too...despite the increase in coverage compared to yesteryear. The national football side have generally been also-rans too, but that's never stopped thousands of English fans following their team away from home - that goes for all sport.
Would I in a minority in this thread if I said I enjoy cricket WC more that it's football equivalent?