Well he actually can, but he cant think of what he should do right after. He's got no idea when to pass, go further, shoot and has very limited vision. His slowness in thought is his biggest obstacle.
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If and when we become a quicker attacking team (if and when we buy some better players) his game will improve.
He's not the man to lead our revival, but I'm sure he'll benefit when we start to break defences down and stop giving teams all the time in the world to build walls in front of us. He also needs to realise bigger isn't better.... As far as his physique is concerned, Lighter is faster!
He needs to bulk down.
He's not the man to lead our revival, but I'm sure he'll benefit when we start to break defences down and stop giving teams all the time in the world to build walls in front of us. He also needs to realise bigger isn't better.... As far as his physique is concerned, Lighter is faster!
He needs to bulk down.
He can beat people from less athletic leagues. He hasn't shown the ability to go past people in the prem with any sort of consistency. He is beaten for pace and quickness by most right backs he has faced this year in the prem.
I really hope the guys given chances. He doesn't need to work on beating players - infact I think that comes naturally to him. What he needs to do is understand the opposition defenders.
Another thing is that Van Gaal is all systems and watching Depays psv videos today, he spends alot of time cutting in off the left ( all well and good) but he does not stop there and he can cross all the way sometimes to the RW which may not be allowed under such a strict regime.
Also, at PSV, everything he does down the celebrations reeks of confidence. I don't want that knocked out of him.
Another thing is that Van Gaal is all systems and watching Depays psv videos today, he spends alot of time cutting in off the left ( all well and good) but he does not stop there and he can cross all the way sometimes to the RW which may not be allowed under such a strict regime.
Also, at PSV, everything he does down the celebrations reeks of confidence. I don't want that knocked out of him.
He definitely does need to work on beating players. Can't believe you think that comes naturally to him. I don't think I've ever seen such a high profile and expensive wide player struggle with getting past his man like Depay does.
I think we should cut our losses with him, get rid and start again. He's given no indication that he has even the potential to improve bar that game in the EL.
There is much wrong in the general set up of the team to blame it all on depay.
Someone like martial dribbles with the ball glued to his feet- IMO why his long term position is not at LW is because this means he struggles to hit the ball cleanly.
Depay on the other hand dribbles with cuts and quick touches - it's one thing doing it by yourself and failing but when the whole team is playing slow tempo then making quick cuts and stuff won't work out so well.
( IMO lingard in the middle against city - showed me glimpses about the fine line between counter-attacking and possession football & it did really add some speed in positions we did not have speed in)
One more thing- Vidic & Evra struggled defensively for a United SAF team that hardly struggled anywhere - give some time to attackers who really do have to show what they are all about.
I still rate his talent and would like us persisting with him. But at the same time I'd sign enough wingers to be comfortable next season. One option is to loan him out to regain his mojo, but I still feel if he works hard and gels with the next manager's system, he could do really well this season.
His transfer has been leaked.
https://footballleaks2015.wordpress.com/
That's a guaranteed £4m less than reported.
https://footballleaks2015.wordpress.com/
So if we manage to sell him for 80M to China, we owe PSV a lot of money 
If he gets sold for €80m, that would make it a €59m profit and 10% of that is €5.9m so not a lot really.So if we manage to sell him for 80M to China, we owe PSV a lot of money
Ya.. I didnt mean owe.. I meant, we will end up giving PSV overall a lot of money on an unsuccessful deal.
Everybody needs to watch this
I can't at work. Quick summary?
Shows Memphis and his life long buddy living in Manchester, their relationship, how he comes across to people, how he reacts and expresses his disappointment for not coming on off the bench
Thanks.
Can see he really does care and that he takes it to heart when he's not playing which is great.
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Am I the only one that thinks its far more likely that this football leaks website are pulling absolutely all of this info out of their arseholes rather than having direct access to every single player transfer of the past 2-3 years?
Hopefully he'll start against England tonight and put in a good performance to keep boosting his confidence. 2 assists against France, same again tonight Memphis.
34 mil?. Needs to pull his finger out.
Watched that Memphis video, and just completely reiterated my opinion that Van Gaal has ruined his confidence.
A confident and flying Memphis would be one of the best players in the league.
A confident and flying Memphis would be one of the best players in the league.
He is playing okay today against a good side, but his confidence.. He has drifted inside two times this match and didnt even dare to shoot, really saddening to see.
As frustrating as his season may have been, why are there so many emotional responses in here that fail to acknowledge the bigger picture? It's his first season in a new country, a new and much stronger league and a new and much bigger club. While it's far from a guarantee that he'll be improved next year, he's far from the first one to struggle in his first season in the PL either, particularly at a club such as United. He may not be in his teens, but is still a relatively young player and has plenty of time to grow and become great. It's not as if it's all been dark, he's had his moments and they should offer enough confidence that he'll be productive for us going forward.
Yeah that's euros I believe, which at the time was around £24-£25m. Which sounds about right wrt how I recall it.
He had a couple of decent moments in tonight but looks really dejected a lot of the time.
Agreed, this season just needs to end and we need Mou to get him fighting again.
Bullshit. He was playing week in week out the first three months and was crap.
It's not as simple as that. There's a reason every attacker we've had under LvG has struggled bar Martial.
I do not see a player with the talent to be one of the best players in the country.
He struggles to beat players one on one in acres of space ffs.
I hope he improves next season but you cannot blame Van Gaal for benching him.
I'll add that even Martial, who many rave about, has scored a total of 7 league goals. Falcao, who was realy bad (and I mean really really bad), had 4 goals. In most teams, if a striker scores 7 goals, he'd either be benched or sold.
IMO, the problem is the LVG system - it promotes defensive play and 1-0 score lines.
Back on topic, Re: Memphis: just how good is he?
On paper Memphis' physical style of play should be perfect for the EPL, however, I saw too many performances from him this season, where he does well against bad opposition (I don't believe that confidence is the problem, otherwise he'd struggle against low quality defenders), but the moment he comes up against a decent defence, he is completely impotent.
His best performances came against Midgetland, Brugge and Shrewsbury. Virtually every other performance, he has either been average or poor.
I think we need to see how he does under Jose. If he still sucks, then he'll be sold.
Looking forward to seeing how he does under a decent Manager.
Just tonight he knocked it passed Sturridge down the line and put in a lovely left footed cross, and also skinned Walker with some quick feet only to be fouled by him once he caught up. He's definitely got it in his locker, we just need to get it from him more regularly.
Martial is our LW and sometimes RW. Not strictly striker. If he ends with 10 league goals and maybe 5 assists, thats a solid contribution for a wide player
Also only someone that hasn't watched Utd games would say martial hasn't been absolutely brilliant in nearly every game he's played.
Well at the very least he has been the ONE attacker that can leave this season with some credit. Every pundit and current manager agrees. We are basically discussing our best attacking player on a thread about one of our worst attacking players as if its a worthwhile comparison.
You could say the exact same thing about Di Maria in the latter stages of last season.
I think that's a common overstatement on here. He's had good/promising games vs Arsenal, Newcastle, Watford and more. But since the general opinion of him is in the negative, people will act oblivious to all performances but the great ones he's had with us.
He showed some maturity against Arsenal and Newcastle which is positive, but even then he didn't look a potentially great player. Just a good one. I'm not sure what he was like at PSV but it seems pretty clear he doesn't have the talent to be a great player. I can't remember a highly rated winger struggle to beat his man as often.
Overall he's looked very Tony Valencia-ish. No ideas, lacking the basics in being a premiership level winger. By basic I mean, the basic Ashley Young level of effectiveness. I read on squawka that last season's ashley young in the premier league; created 3 times as many chances, 3 times as many key passes, 5 assists to memphis' 0, took on more players etc. He needs to up his Prem game for real. He is a winger playing for Manchester United. Can't be 1/3 the effectiveness of the likes of Young.
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