David fecking Moyes. This is his legacy. 
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He's crap. Mourinho's comments about Rooney being England's best player really worry me. My hope is he does the right thing once he sees Wayne in training and sells him to China.
What if he sees him chip the keeper in training and decides he's fantastic and should play the way LVG did?
Actually that's something Mourinho is going to have to look at, the amount of privileges LVG gave Rooney like never being dropped and deciding on the canteen staff. Imagine walking in to discover someone has been given that amount of leeway and power, it could possibly feel daunting wrestling some of it away from him.
one of my highlights of last season that, interview and footage of a goal he scored in training
Said it before, has become our Gerrard. Really just want him to feck off.
Mouriniho will not arselick him. If he starts it's because the manager thinks he's good enough which is good enough for me. With England I know it's Woy having no balls.
One of Jose's most important decision. How does he handle this Rooney mess?
He is still unanimously loved amongst most journalists and pundits - which I still cant understand.
He is still unanimously loved amongst most journalists and pundits - which I still cant understand.
Disgraceful performance by him, if that's what we should expect next season if he's to be played in midfield, then maybe this might not be the brightest idea.
Just proves what an amazing manager SAF was, managed to keep Rooney when he needed him and not tarnish the brand by losing him to Citeh. And then, as soon as possible he got a better player (RVP) to replace him, dropped him and left it perfect for the next gaffer to start off his reign by kicking him out and showing who the new boss is.
Moyes responded by helping him get 250k a week for 5 years...
Moyes responded by helping him get 250k a week for 5 years...
Fergy had literally done all the hard work needed to get Rooney out. But its the clubs Rooney was trying to leave to that have stopped it happening. I mean Moyes selling Rooney to Chelsea who then go on to win a league would have been seen as a huge error.Just proves what an amazing manager SAF was, managed to keep Rooney when he needed him and not tarnish the brand by losing him to Citeh. And then, as soon as possible he got a better player (RVP) to replace him, dropped him and left it perfect for the next gaffer to start off his reign by kicking him out and showing who the new boss is.
Moyes responded by helping him get 250k a week for 5 years...
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You're probably right. I was so sure LVG would be the same way (ie. not bowing down to him,) yet that sadly didn't appear to be the case.
this is why I'm not convinced that mourinho will drop rooney for good if he doesn't deliver.
Worst thing about him is he just doesnt look fit. Looks overweight, slow, and doesnt concentrate to do the simple things consistently. Mourinho has to tell him he will be a squad player and make rooney earn his spot in the team if he wants a starting spot.
As it is, youngsters like rashford or even januzaj can do a lot more simply because they are fit to play and are quick. Rooney has good games now and then, but its not enough.
As it is, youngsters like rashford or even januzaj can do a lot more simply because they are fit to play and are quick. Rooney has good games now and then, but its not enough.
He will start under Jose.
It's how long that will last which is the question.
It's how long that will last which is the question.
I hope the man that ended Raul's career at Real Madrid when he arrived and later openly went to war with Iker Casillas hasn't mellowed too much.
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Yep. Mourinho has previous of basically telling club legends when their time is done and just dropping them. Hopefully he does the same here. Rooney can still have a role, but it is at best a squad player and a sub. Starting him means you have to shoehorn him somewhere that we have better players, or more effective players, or simply players who are more fit. Herrera for example in midfield. Someone who doesn't have to worry about miscontrolling a simple pass and can pass it firmly and quickly.
I hope that Rooney doesn't have some clause which forces us to play him when fit in his contract.
I have nothing, I was at the game. What a horror show, the entire team was dreadful. Get him back, get him rested, get him onto the Mourinho diet and get him ready to play behind the front striker next season. By far the worst game he's played this year, hope he can put all this Euro caper behind him. What an absolutely abhorrent way to cap off a tournament personally and for his country.
He's just not good enough and hasn't been for a while. I'm not even angry at Wayne anymore, if he's going to keep getting picked then it isn't his fault. The media need to stop protecting him and coaches/managers need to have the balls to not select him.
bingo. I wonder what LVG would be making of this
My Captain shall always play!
If we can't sell him, force him to retire from England and hire Giggs as his personal trainer. Your our only hope, Yogi Ryan.
Was poor tonight. But England's best player this tournament, or among the best. The entire team was at fault and not just him. Sure he was among the worse players, but surely blaming it all on him is a bit over the top
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Agreed. He was bad last night but he definitely wasn't the only one but it is expected for Rooney to be the scapegoat because he's the biggest name in the team and he's the captain. He played well in the other games though can't take that away from him.
I think sometimes we overstate playing well. What did he actually do in the other games? If you mean he wasnt quite as bad as some of the other players in the team, then yes your probably right.
It's not about making Rooney a scapecoat. He is the captain of the National Team. He is expected to lead and deliver. He was abysmal last night.
I kinda agree. I'm a bit annoyed at myself for taking the anger out on a player who is a legend for us (but he's ruining his legacy now) but he should have been booted out the summer Sir Alex left. Instead we have had two weak managers who couldn't look beyond Rooney's status at the club - which ultimately led to their demise.
That makes no sense.
Your attachment to Rooney makes no sense either. United can't make progress with him, be it in midfield or attack. He was a great player. He is a hindrance now.
Kane was equally shocking but who wouldn't what him in a Utd shirt next season....
Kane's about 10 years younger and had a great season with Spurs. And had a great season before that. Spot the differences...
It only takes one game for the knives to come out again. Unsurprising really.
That was Kane's first International tournament....
One game? Rooney hasn't had one very good season over the last 4 years...He's been declinng for years and was absolutely atrocious in the first half of last season which pretty much costed United a CL spot. One game, eh?
That's not my point, my point is International performances aren't a reflection on your ability as a club player. England as a collective are poor but there are some quality English players. It's all about context...
I and many on here have always said how rubbish Rooney is. Yes he played 3/4 okay games in midfield but the gap between he and Scholes is huge, even when Scholes was 38! I hope this now ends any debate ot hioe that Rooney is the saviour.
Rooney was an amazing talent 6 years ago. Quite frankly, he has been on the decline and rapidly since he was 24. Hes not even half the player he was back then. I jist hope the media get over there facination with him
Rooney was an amazing talent 6 years ago. Quite frankly, he has been on the decline and rapidly since he was 24. Hes not even half the player he was back then. I jist hope the media get over there facination with him
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