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David fecking Moyes. This is his legacy.
What if he sees him chip the keeper in training and decides he's fantastic and should play the way LVG did?He's crap. Mourinho's comments about Rooney being England's best player really worry me. My hope is he does the right thing once he sees Wayne in training and sells him to China.
one of my highlights of last season that, interview and footage of a goal he scored in trainingWhat if he sees him chip the keeper in training and decides he's fantastic and should play the way LVG did?
Actually that's something Mourinho is going to have to look at, the amount of privileges LVG gave Rooney like never being dropped and deciding on the canteen staff. Imagine walking in to discover someone has been given that amount of leeway and power, it could possibly feel daunting wrestling some of it away from him.
Mouriniho will not arselick him. If he starts it's because the manager thinks he's good enough which is good enough for me. With England I know it's Woy having no balls.Said it before and I'll say it again. United will have trouble becoming a powerhouse again with him still in the squad.
I don't think Mourinho will do anything though... Could be another 2-3 years before united truly becomes great again
Fergy had literally done all the hard work needed to get Rooney out. But its the clubs Rooney was trying to leave to that have stopped it happening. I mean Moyes selling Rooney to Chelsea who then go on to win a league would have been seen as a huge error.Just proves what an amazing manager SAF was, managed to keep Rooney when he needed him and not tarnish the brand by losing him to Citeh. And then, as soon as possible he got a better player (RVP) to replace him, dropped him and left it perfect for the next gaffer to start off his reign by kicking him out and showing who the new boss is.
Moyes responded by helping him get 250k a week for 5 years...
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You're probably right. I was so sure LVG would be the same way (ie. not bowing down to him,) yet that sadly didn't appear to be the case.Mouriniho will not arselick him. If he starts it's because the manager thinks he's good enough which is good enough for me. With England I know it's Woy having no balls.
this is why I'm not convinced that mourinho will drop rooney for good if he doesn't deliver.You're probably right. I was so sure LVG would be the same way (ie. not bowing down to him,) yet that sadly didn't appear to be the case.
But not by the fans.One of Jose's most important decision. How does he handle this Rooney mess?
He is still unanimously loved amongst most journalists and pundits - which I still cant understand.
ThisI hope the man that ended Raul's career at Real Madrid when he arrived and later openly went to war with Iker Casillas hasn't mellowed too much.
Yep. Mourinho has previous of basically telling club legends when their time is done and just dropping them. Hopefully he does the same here. Rooney can still have a role, but it is at best a squad player and a sub. Starting him means you have to shoehorn him somewhere that we have better players, or more effective players, or simply players who are more fit. Herrera for example in midfield. Someone who doesn't have to worry about miscontrolling a simple pass and can pass it firmly and quickly.I hope the man that ended Raul's career at Real Madrid when he arrived and later openly went to war with Iker Casillas hasn't mellowed too much.
I hope that Rooney doesn't have some clause which forces us to play him when fit in his contract.I hope the man that ended Raul's career at Real Madrid when he arrived and later openly went to war with Iker Casillas hasn't mellowed too much.
I have nothing, I was at the game. What a horror show, the entire team was dreadful. Get him back, get him rested, get him onto the Mourinho diet and get him ready to play behind the front striker next season. By far the worst game he's played this year, hope he can put all this Euro caper behind him. What an absolutely abhorrent way to cap off a tournament personally and for his country.@Perrick Dubois As one of his biggest supporters please give us some hope about Rooney!
bingo. I wonder what LVG would be making of thisHe's just not good enough and hasn't been for a while. I'm not even angry at Wayne anymore, if he's going to keep getting picked then it isn't his fault. The media need to stop protecting him and coaches/managers need to have the balls to not select him.
My Captain shall always play!bingo. I wonder what LVG would be making of this
Fixed.I have nothing, I was at the game. What a horror show, the entire team was dreadful. Get him sold,get him sold, get him sold and get him ready to play in China next season. .
Agreed. He was bad last night but he definitely wasn't the only one but it is expected for Rooney to be the scapegoat because he's the biggest name in the team and he's the captain. He played well in the other games though can't take that away from him.Was poor tonight. But England's best player this tournament, or among the best. The entire team was at fault and not just him. Sure he was among the worse players, but surely blaming it all on him is a bit over the top
I think sometimes we overstate playing well. What did he actually do in the other games? If you mean he wasnt quite as bad as some of the other players in the team, then yes your probably right.Agreed. He was bad last night but he definitely wasn't the only one but it is expected for Rooney to be the scapegoat because he's the biggest name in the team and he's the captain. He played well in the other games though can't take that away from him.
I kinda agree. I'm a bit annoyed at myself for taking the anger out on a player who is a legend for us (but he's ruining his legacy now) but he should have been booted out the summer Sir Alex left. Instead we have had two weak managers who couldn't look beyond Rooney's status at the club - which ultimately led to their demise.He's just not good enough and hasn't been for a while. I'm not even angry at Wayne anymore, if he's going to keep getting picked then it isn't his fault. The media need to stop protecting him and coaches/managers need to have the balls to not select him.
That makes no sense.Fixed.
Your attachment to Rooney makes no sense either. United can't make progress with him, be it in midfield or attack. He was a great player. He is a hindrance now.That makes no sense.
Kane's about 10 years younger and had a great season with Spurs. And had a great season before that. Spot the differences...Kane was equally shocking but who wouldn't what him in a Utd shirt next season....
It only takes one game for the knives to come out again. Unsurprising really.Your attachment to Rooney makes no sense either. United can't make progress with him, be it in midfield or attack. He was a great player. He is a hindrance now.
That was Kane's first International tournament....Kane was equally shocking but who wouldn't what him in a Utd shirt next season....
One game? Rooney hasn't had one very good season over the last 4 years...He's been declinng for years and was absolutely atrocious in the first half of last season which pretty much costed United a CL spot. One game, eh?It only takes one game for the knives to come out again. Unsurprising really.
That's not my point, my point is International performances aren't a reflection on your ability as a club player. England as a collective are poor but there are some quality English players. It's all about context...That was Kane's first International tournament....