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Do you want Pogba for £100 million?


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Sir A1ex

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I was mainly talking about Zidane's own comments rather than any newspaper report. The quotes are not of a man who has completely given up on a signing but one who has a decent chance. This worries me as it is clear Pogba would choose Madrid before us.
Yeah, it's hard to ignore the "He is not yet a Madrid player. We cannot talk about what will happen." line :nervous:
 

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What a horrid post. I was happy with Evra's desire, a player who never wanted to leave. There were mercenaries back in the 90s too you know. Ask any Inter Milan fan where signing those types of characters got them. If that's the direction you want our club to take I'm afraid I'm not with you.
Neither am I. But he's right to point out that the climate is somewhat different now. Players - even fairly average ones - have become brands unto themselves, being as interested (seemingly) in promoting their own persons as being part of great teams.

Still, some basic truths probably haven't changed. There's still a difference between a professional and a mercenary, for instance. The former category you can still use - even if they aren't "loyal" to the club in a Paul Scholes sense. The latter are as useless as they always were.
 

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Yep. 100% would prefer all three of them to Pogba.
You'd prefer a 29 year-old Fabregas who's level has already dropped dramatically?

The other two are fine players (though you'd qualify that with Kante by pointing out he's only shown this for one season) but neither are direct alternatives to Pogba. Kante offers hardly any attacking threat, while De Bruyne is the opposite.
 

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I have this sneaky feeling coming in that Madrid are going to get us back for the De Gea situation last summer and come in with a bid for Pogba out of no where.

I know they are trying hard to offload James Rodrigues issue is why is one in for him, i would have though City, Chelsea and even Arsenal would have been licking their licks at the thought of James in the PL.
 

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Neither am I. But he's right to point out that the climate is somewhat different now. Players - even fairly average ones - have become brands unto themselves, being as interested (seemingly) in promoting their own persons as being part of great teams.

Still, some basic truths probably haven't changed. There's still a difference between a professional and a mercenary, for instance. The former category you can still use - even if they aren't "loyal" to the club in a Paul Scholes sense. The latter are as useless as they always were.
Of course the climate is different. But that doesn't mean fundamental values around genuine desire and commitment should be abandoned. I really do wonder what SAF thinks of all of this.
 

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Yeah, it's hard to ignore the "He is not yet a Madrid player. We cannot talk about what will happen." line :nervous:
Sounds like both clubs are negotiating and Juve is agnostic. It's all up to Pogba now and it seems he isn't about to favor us - if he did, the deal would have been sealed by now.
 

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If this is true then we should tell the fat c*nt where to go and throw our money away at something else.

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/paul-pogba-manchester-united-medical-11666473

He's an unbelievable talent … BUT I have never seen anything that tells me Pogba is in the "top player in the world" bracket – surely I'd have seen that by now if the figures being quoted are true? He's also, possibly, a bit of a loose cannon and I think this price-tag will almost certainly go to his head - maybe not 100% Ballotelli-wise but enough to make us look stupid.

My advice chuck £40m at an ageing Modric and let Real have Pogba … or, just chuck €120m at Athletico for Griezmann! And we'll still have money left over for a half decent midfielder!
 

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I was mainly talking about Zidane's own comments rather than any newspaper report. The quotes are not of a man who has completely given up on a signing but one who has a decent chance. This worries me as it is clear Pogba would choose Madrid before us.
And he would choose Barcelona over Real. Barca aren't in for him either.
 

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Good point. We should go for Pele.
That's just facesious. Last season aside Fabregas has been superb. We really wanted him just three years ago. He lifted the PL just a year ago and was probably the best player in the squad after Hazard. Fact is I've named four midfielders everyone agrees is superior than Pogba and typically ye zone in on the one that ye don't agree with.
 

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If this is true then we should tell the fat c*nt where to go and throw our money away at something else.

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/paul-pogba-manchester-united-medical-11666473

He's an unbelievable talent … BUT I have never seen anything that tells me Pogba is in the "top player in the world" bracket – surely I'd have seen that by now if the figures being quoted are true? He's also, possibly, a bit of a loose cannon and I think this price-tag will almost certainly go to his head - maybe not 100% Ballotelli-wise but enough to make us look stupid.

My advice chuck £40m at an ageing Modric and let Real have Pogba … or, just chuck €120m at Athletico for Griezmann! And we'll still have money left over for a half decent midfielder!
It's not true... The spanish, Madrid friendly, media completely made it up. The doctor who was supposedly going to do the medical even came out on twitter to say it was bollocks.
 

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I have this sneaky feeling coming in that Madrid are going to get us back for the De Gea situation last summer and come in with a bid for Pogba out of no where.

I know they are trying hard to offload James Rodrigues
issue is why is one in for him, i would have though City, Chelsea and even Arsenal would have been licking their licks at the thought of James in the PL.
Zz has just said he isn't for sale?
 

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Where would you say Pogba ranks right now (not potential) in terms of the world's best central midfielders? i.e. who is better than him right now? who is around the same level?
Modric is the only one who is clearly better. Veratti, Busquets, Vidal and probably Iniesta (who isn't very consistent these days) in the same level, Kroos probably slightly worse, same about Koke.
 

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I can. And I am. Interesting I'm the only one to name midfielders who I consider superior to Pogba. All the rest of ye must think he's the best in the world?
TBF I'm sure most people are too busy with the comedic relief some of the claims you've made in this thread has brought us. No, I don't think he's the best in the world. Certainly don't think Cesc fecking Fabregas is better than him though. :lol:
 

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Wait, you talking about Fabregas? He's never won the CL.
Pretty sure Fabregas has only been club captain at Arsenal too, during which he won nothing of worth. Certainly wasn't captain at Barcelona during the season he won the league with them, like Rory suggests.
 

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Zz has just said he isn't for sale?
Zidane was then later asked whether Madrid would need to sell James Rodriguez in order to fund a move for Pogba. His response was pretty clear: “James plays for Real Madrid. I’m not going to get involved in the ‘one must leave so another can arrive’ talk. James is going to stay at Real Madrid.
https://t.co/oOqnNC6ZsP

@ChaddyP posted this almost 1hr ago now.
 

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Pretty sure Fabregas has only been club captain at Arsenal too, during which he won nothing of worth. Certainly wasn't captain at Barcelona during the season he won the league with them, like Rory suggests.
Wasn't suggesting he was captain at Barca but can see how my list reads like that. I meant he was a captain/leader. He's still a super player.
 

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Vidal, Iniesta, Modric, Fabregas, Kroos, Kante, De Bruyne (who can play CM along with other positions) and Veratti off the top of my head would be ahead of Pogba.
Kante, Fabregas, and De Bruyne are not better.

I would agree Modric, Iniesta and possibly Vidal are currently better but all are 30 or over. They won't be better than Pogba in 2 years time. Pogba only just turned 23 let's remember.

Kroos and Veratti are really the only comparable midfielders in the same age bracket as Pogba that would justify a huge fee to secure their signings. PSG would never sell Veratti and we couldn't bid high enough to force them, Kroos isn't going to be sold by Real anytime soon and if he does leave i can only see him returning to Bayern. With that in mind Pogba is our best option, and would improve our team immensely.
 

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That's just facesious. Last season aside Fabregas has been superb. We really wanted him just three years ago. He lifted the PL just a year ago and was probably the best player in the squad after Hazard. Fact is I've named four midfielders everyone agrees is superior than Pogba and typically ye zone in on the one that ye don't agree with.
Well three years ago I'd have agreed with you on Fabregas!

As for the four... at 32 I'm not sure Iniesta would be a better signing than Pogba, much as he may still be the better player right now. Similar can be said for Modric to a lesser degree, and even Vidal is 29 already.

I'd take Kroos, though even in his case I've not been as gutted as I expected that we missed out on him before - the level he's playing at is a level I'd be optimistic Pogba will be at by his age if not earlier.