RAWK Goes Into Meltdown 2016-17 Edition

[Pumplex]

Amazing the change of tune on RAWK over the past week.

It's gone from the match on Sunday being a guaranteed Liverpool win with Liverpool being leaps and bounds ahead of us in quality etc etc...

To now many of them willing to take a draw if offered right now.

Maybe this year....isn't their year

 

[Truedevil]

feck these c*nts!!

More posts like this in here please

Quality discussion.

 

[Schmiznurf]

Quality discussion.

Not going to lie, my limited intellect just isn't enough to keep up with their highly intelligent debates and conversations, I think I need an IQ of at least 160 to get on with them.

 

[Redguern]

Not going to lie, my limited intellect just isn't enough to keep up with their highly intelligent debates and conversations, I think I need an IQ of at least 16.0 to get on with them.

Fixed it for you

 

[Schmiznurf]

Fixed it for you

Haha, sounds more like the level required.

 

[JohnnyKills]

Got a horrible feeling they'll nick it on Sunday. We can't keep winning and they can't keep playing so badly.

 

[SwansonsTache]

Got a horrible feeling they'll nick it on Sunday. We can't keep winning and they can't keep playing so badly.

Yeah I always have a bad feeling ahead of these games.

But let's be honest though:

- Our GK is better
- Our defence is better
- Our midfield is better
- The attacks are about on par IMO, names and actual quality we edge it, but cohesion and output they edge it

We are a better side, plain and simple. The table might not show it but remember we have a new manager, were damaged goods and had a freak run of results. IMO the last two months are more representative of the respective teams strengths, and I can't stop the feeling that they've already peaked with their current squad, while we are still to get there.

Barring tactical feckups by our manager we edge it, simply because we'll put forth a better 11 than they will do. But as we all know form and the relatively small gaps in quality all goes out the window in matches like these, and I wouldn't put a bet on either of us.

 

[shaky]

Got a horrible feeling they'll nick it on Sunday. We can't keep winning and they can't keep playing so badly.

yes we can, and yes they can

 

[Peanut Butter]

Amazing the change of tune on RAWK over the past week.

It's gone from the match on Sunday being a guaranteed Liverpool win with Liverpool being leaps and bounds ahead of us in quality etc etc...

To now many of them willing to take a draw if offered right now.

Maybe this year....isn't their year

No that's because next year is their year, la.

 

[Summit]

Yeah I always have a bad feeling ahead of these games.

But let's be honest though:

- Our GK is better
- Our defence is better
- Our midfield is better
- The attacks are about on par IMO, names and actual quality we edge it, but cohesion and output they edge it

But look at this according to Souness

 

[Minimalist]

But look at this according to Souness

That can't be real.

 

[Attila]

But look at this according to Souness

 

[The Mitcher]

But look at this according to Souness

No pogba

 

[Summit]

Oh god, I grabbed it off twitter. Some people are blasting Souness on it, but I didn't check it authenticity. It can't be real can it? Come on.

EDIT: It's real http://www.skysports.com/football/n...s-selects-his-combined-man-utd-v-liverpool-xi

he's a knob

 

[Ban]

But look at this according to Souness

What a bellend. I'm surprised there's even that much of our players there.

 

[Eckers99]

Oh god, I grabbed it off twitter. Some people are blasting Souness on it, but I didn't check it authenticity. It can't be real can it? Come on.

EDIT: It's real http://www.skysports.com/football/n...s-selects-his-combined-man-utd-v-liverpool-xi

he's a knob

Yeah, it's totally legit. This guy, one of Sky's foremost 'experts', hasn't picked a single United defender. Or Pogba. He should've just gone fully bonzo and picked Karius over De Gea.

 

[Strachans Cigar]

...so a defence that has conceded more than ours is better than ours. Ok.

 

[Schmiznurf]

But look at this according to Souness

Holy crap, no Pogba or Mkhitaryan and not a single United defender, I think it's fair to say Souness is a joke.

 

[Hugh Jass]

But look at this according to Souness

Laughable.

 

[dwd]

No Karius in nets?!

 

[podurban2]

But look at this according to Souness

He's taking the piss here.

 

[SwansonsTache]

Known Liverpool bias or not, he should have a problem keeping a straight face putting forward that 11.

 

[horsechoker]

But look at this according to Souness

With a back four like that, a keeper like De Gea is necessary.

 

[SuperiorXI]

 

[Regulus Arcturus Black]

But look at this according to Souness

He's trying too hard here eh? He'll obviously discount every United centre back because they haven't played as much, same with the left back. So in that sense, if he's going off the full season so far (rather than the best players) you can kinda just about understand his bizarre defence picks.

But then he goes and leaves out Pogba, and just makes a complete dick of himself.

 

[SwansonsTache]

.............De Gea
Valencia.Bailly.Rojo.Milner
.............Carrick
Herrera............Pogba
Lallana...Zlatan...Mkhi

Is the correct version of that lineup. Mkhi can be discussed and probably on performances alone should be swapped for Coutinho. Then again, I can't be entirely objective since Sourness obviously didn't make the effort to be.

 

[Adisa]

But look at this according to Souness

He picked the entire back four of a team that is a joke defensively.

 

[Jerch]

But look at this according to Souness

Well this is just

Tbf based on performances this season it is at least for me:
..................... De Gea
Valencia - Jones - Matip - Milner
..................... Carrick
............. Lallana - - Pogba
Mane - - - - - Ibrahimovic - - - Coutinho

But based on quality it is:
..................... De Gea
Valencia - Jones - Bailly - Shaw
..................... Carrick
............. Herrera - - Pogba
Micki - - - - - Ibrahimovic - - - Martial

 

[Pexbo]

But look at this according to Souness

Got to laugh. I guess it's click bait really.

 

[Hugh Jass]

Well this is just

Tbf based on performances this season it is at least for me:
..................... De Gea
Valencia - Jones - Matip - Milner
..................... Carrick
............. Lallana - - Pogba
Mane - - - - - Ibrahimovic - - - Coutinho

But based on quality it is:
..................... De Gea
Valencia - Jones - Bailly - Shaw
..................... Carrick
............. Herrera - - Pogba
Micki - - - - - Ibrahimovic - - - Martial

I would concur. Maybe Coutinho in for Micky T in the quality team.

 

[Hugh Jass]

I would consider Souness a top pundit, but that team is just stupid.

 

[RobinLFC]

Picking Herrera over Lallana is just as big a joke as Souness' line-up tbh.

 

[SwansonsTache]

Picking Herrera over Lallana is just as big a joke as Souness' line-up tbh.

I picked him as LW since I agree, Lallana should be in there. If that is on the expense of Herrera then so be it.

Wasn't entirely sure which position he plays for Liverpool, thought he was an attacker and not midfielder.

What would be your totally unbiased 11?

 

[OnlyTwoDaSilvas]

Liverpool's entire back four, who have conceded the most goals of everyone in the top 6. What a goof.

 

[Summit]

Liverpool's entire back four, who have conceded the most goals of everyone in the top 6. What a goof.

But on the other flip-side to coin we have United's attack who have scored less...

 

[AR87]

Klavan gets robbed

 

[ValenciasDrilledCrosses]

Picking Herrera over Lallana is just as big a joke as Souness' line-up tbh.

I wouldn't call picking the player who bossed Liverpool's midfield over an attacking mid in central midfield more ridiculous than not including one of the best center mids in the league or a single member of the more effective defense this season. I agree that Lallana should be in there somewhere nowhere near as agreggious as you make it out to be

 

[Jerch]

Picking Herrera over Lallana is just as big a joke as Souness' line-up tbh.

I think recent displays from Lallana are much more a form thing than Lallana showing his true quality. He is really good this season no doubt about that, better then Herrera and Herrera is quite good this season but based on quality in my opinion Herrera is much better for me. But tbf they are different players so it is hard to compare, Lallana better offensively and Herrera better defensively.

 

[RobinLFC]

I picked him as LW since I agree, Lallana should be in there. If that is on the expense of Herrera then so be it.

Wasn't entirely sure which position he plays for Liverpool, thought he was an attacker and not midfielder.

What would be your totally unbiased 11?

De Gea
Valencia Matip Bailly Milner
Henderson
Lallana------Pogba
Mane Ibrahimovic Coutinho
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De Gea doesn't need any explanation. Valencia/Clyne and Henderson/Carrick are tough ones imo, you could make arguments for both but I went with Valencia since United's defense is a lot better than ours, and with Henderson because he's a lot more mobile than Carrick. I think Matip is better than Jones and Rojo, and was impressed with Bailly before he got injured (also seen quite a bit from him at Villareal). Milner at LB is an obvious choice although I think Shaw has that spot locked up for the next ten years if he ever regains his match fitness and pre-injury form.

Pogba and Lallana are no-brainers in midfield for me, both have been amongst the best in the league at their positions. Ibra is obvious, so is Coutinho imo although I can't fault a United fan for picking Martial. Last very difficult choice is Mane or Mkhitaryan, again you could make a case for either one. Mane edges it by far based on this season alone but if you look at Mkhitaryan's performances at Dortmund, he should be in there if he can get to that level in the Premier League as well.

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I wonder how long it'll take before marukomu comes in to say we need to cut out the discussions in here.

 

[Kraftwerker]

Picking Herrera over Lallana is just as big a joke as Souness' line-up tbh.

Especially when Mata is a much better player than both, if we're talking about the AM position.