So they are saying one thing on TV & another thing online? Shocker.Sky have just released an article saying everton want addons.
Paul Joyce confirmed about 5-6 hours ago the agreed fee included 15 million in "easy addons"
Sky sports are fecking trash.
Romelu Lukaku | United confirm deal subject to medical and personal terms
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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Saha was a January signing in 2004. Rooney signed that Summer.
Chelsea were throwing money around like confetti at the time, to this day I'll never understand why they didn't make a play for Rooney that Summer. They could have easily blown us out of the water on transfer fee and wages at the time. We only had to compete with Newcastle, who actually forced our hand with the deal. Fergie had wanted to leave it another 12 months.
So apparently it's 90m now.
How? We're the richest club in the world, with the largest fan base and a unique history. Obviously Real have a much more successful history, especially in Europe, but it doesn't make them bigger.
It's close but it's no where near as ridiculous as Spurs claiming to be as big as United. They've got 0 grounds to claim that.
Well technically they could be right. The medical team is flying to LA because that's where the team starts the summer tour.
Would it have to be the United medical team? Its all fairly routine isnt it, I assumed there would be people at the facility in LA who could oversee it for us.
We signed both in the same year. Saha in Jan and Rooney in August
Let's see once (and if) everything is official. No need to panic right now
Just fecking sign him now. I'm losing patience
Paul Joyce, basically the best merseyside journo for both teams confirmed hours ago that the deal is:
75m base fee + 15 million in "easy addons" + rooney on a free transfer.
He scored against Charlton from outside the box, the only one I can recall though.
So, you'd take 27 (peak year) RvN over 24 year old (yet to reach peak) Lukaku right now?
At the age he is at now, Lukaku has scored more club AND international goals than Van Nistelrooy at the exact same age.
And if you think RvN was a good 'footballer' then you need to take of the red-tinted glasses. He was a finisher. That's all he was. He'd tell you that himself.
Revenue and profit are better measures of how rich a club is. Having a high value is of little use cos you cannot really spend money you dont have.
An example of the flaw is the fact that Forbes ranks Spur ahead of PSG when the latter earns almost double in revenue. Also AC milan is ranked second in serie A behind Juve despite bleeding almost 100m per year for over 5yrs running.
feck Everton and Real Madrid seriously. 90 million for Morata or Lukaku.
This is why not overspending is important. It's not a case of lining the Glazers fat pockets with money. It's now the case of every club demands £100 million of us straight off, whether its Pogba or fecking Seamus Coleman.
This is why not overspending is important. It's not a case of lining the Glazers fat pockets with money. It's now the case of every club demands £100 million of us straight off, whether its Pogba or fecking Seamus Coleman.
For accuracy's sake that 10 yard thing isn't true, you're getting wonderfully confused. Firstly, penalties! Second the stat I think you're thinking of is that all his goals were scored inside the box, until he scored one in a 3-1 win away at Charlton from outside the box.
You're right, he did score one. I remember it at the time. It was late in his United career form about 20-yards hit first time.
you know in order to put the ball in the net you need to play football right?So, you'd take 27 (peak year) RvN over 24 year old (yet to reach peak) Lukaku right now?
At the age he is at now, Lukaku has scored more club AND international goals than Van Nistelrooy at the exact same age.
And if you think RvN was a good 'footballer' then you need to take of the red-tinted glasses. He was a finisher. That's all he was. He'd tell you that himself.
if he's good at scoring goals he's obviously good at football, christ.
So a unique history trumps a more successful history? Lol
I don't see how us being a little bit more richer than Madrid means much. We're both rich. Equal.
Larger fan base? Ok, united.
More trophies? Madrid
More glamour stars? Madrid.
Madrid win. But it doesn't mean a bloody jot. It's a stupid, meaningless discussion. We're both massive clubs.
A much better finisher and big game player than Lukaku, one of the best finishers the league has seenSo, you'd take 27 (peak year) RvN over 24 year old (yet to reach peak) Lukaku right now?
At the age he is at now, Lukaku has scored more club AND international goals than Van Nistelrooy at the exact same age.
And if you think RvN was a good 'footballer' then you need to take of the red-tinted glasses. He was a finisher. That's all he was. He'd tell you that himself.
putting something in "inverted commas" doesn't "automatically" give it a "different meaning".
I can't help but feel that if Chelsea get Morata and we get Lukaku they'll be the ones reaping the rewards.
That's because United fans are always moaning and think the grass is always greener at some other club.
Debating if he's a 'footballer' is totally irrelevant !
Lukaku is a finisher and that's what we needed last year - may he JUST score goals.
Lukaku is a finisher and that's what we needed last year - may he JUST score goals.
Give the boy time and an opportunity...
Can we draw a line under the "biggest" bullshit arguments in this thread?
If you feel a need to measure dicks, start a thread for that, and be thankful I'm not a mod.
If you feel a need to measure dicks, start a thread for that, and be thankful I'm not a mod.
they're in LA our first game is in LA.
Doesn't make sense for them to fly back only to fly out again. I think they'll just hang out in LA and wait for the rest of the team to arrive
It absolutely isn't.
We are the richest club in the world in this year. Real were for 12 years in a row. Does EPL getting some extra money this season makes that big difference on who is the biggest? Or was it the adidas deal who made the difference? If Real get a new deal with their shirt sponsor, will that make them bigger than us.
The number of fans is 1) estimation from mostly English media (and they are near as biased as Marca), 2) quite meaningless. About point (1), Real has more followers than us in Facebook, Instagram and Twitter, so the idea that we have so much more fans than them is a bit misleaded IMO. (2), most of these fans, came from countries who don't even watch football that much, but more importantly, they have no significance in club's success etc. Having a few more fans in Vietnam or Cambodgia is nice, but how does that make us bigger than Madrid? Do we have more fans in UK than Madrid in Spain? Extremely unlikely. Do we have more fans in places from where most of the players and the revenue come? Absolutely no. Real dwarfs us in Europe and South America, and so it is no surprise that most of the kids dream to play for them (or nowadays Barca), rather than United.
If we look at history, again it ain't close. They have 12 European Cups, we have 3. They have 33 league titles, we have 20. They have 4 Ballon D'Ors in Cristiano Ronaldo (won in the last 5 years), we have 4 in our entire history.
When it comes to who is the biggest, I think 2 factors are the most important (maybe, the only important ones): 1) the success/history; 2) the ability to recruit players. Claiming that Real don't lead in both of them is like that West Ham fan who might claim that they are the biggest club in England cause they have the most aggressive fans.
NB: And yep, I am done with the pointless argument.
We don't know if he will or won't do that. We can only make predictions based on limited evidence and flawed mental processes. People are notoriously bad at making predictions - even experts. I'm assuming van Gaal didn't assume think that di María would sulk, be lazy and decide to feck off to France after a season. I'd like to think he was aware that it was a risk and he evaluated those risks against the possible opportunities. Unfortunately he and United's senior management miscalculated.
In any case, your first point was obviously ridiculous - if he scores goals then nothing else matters. I just presented a simple argument to refute the notion.
I'm not moaning. I'm looking at the qualities of one striker and the qualities of another and I think one will be better than the other. If we're not allowed to do that what's the point of a forum?
Us bidding 75 mil for him suggests otherwise. It's either Mourinho thinks his defensive contribution good for us or he doesn't expect Lukaku to defend.
Twitter has finished sky sports news and there reliability.
He'll score goals, he won't be a better finisher than RVN you can already see that, its not a slight though not many were as good.
He could maybe become a better all round forward if he works at his game
Lukaku will probably improve his defensive work rate under Mourinho. Out of all the things that players can improve work rate is always the first thing.
Think we should just buy all the attackers out there so Chelsea have nobody to buy. City like attackers. The more the merrier. Let's just have a team of forwards.
Personally think both clubs are humongous dicks.
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